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  • Dinglesberry
    longing
    • Dec 2007
    • 2679

    #166
    Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

    idk i just always assume people talk about online since i have no life or friends to play irl with (jk theres tournaments around here im just really lazy)

    edit: my main annoyance with it is that its essentially saying "I don't want to actually try to get better tech skill or mechanics, i get me wins me own way and thats what counts, yuuuup...." its basically ruining other peoples experience by forcing them to counter a style that not only has a low skill requirement vs. the reward it gives, but the practice gained from it won't even improve your own gameplay

    sure u could argue that being able to adapt and counter any playstyle is improving but idk, I don't really feel that way

    either way someone can play whatever way they want, im just joking around anyways, i still think its boring to play against though, like playing vs a puff who just tries to time you out and never approaches in melee... not necessarily a bad strategy, but an unenjoyable one to counter
    Last edited by Dinglesberry; 08-30-2019, 01:58 PM.

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    • choof
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2013
      • 8563

      #167
      Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

      Originally posted by Dinglesberry
      idk i just always assume people talk about online since i have no life or friends to play irl with (jk theres tournaments around here im just really lazy)
      if you'd like i could explain to you why you have no life or no friends but you seem content alienating everyone by being completely insufferable so what the fuck ever
      if you don't give a shit then why bitch and moan about it?

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      • Dinglesberry
        longing
        • Dec 2007
        • 2679

        #168
        Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

        Originally posted by choof
        if you'd like i could explain to you why you have no life or no friends but you seem content alienating everyone by being completely insufferable so what the fuck ever
        if you don't give a shit then why bitch and moan about it?
        do u really think that i actually have no friends lol im just being a dumbass for fun

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        • choof
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Nov 2013
          • 8563

          #169
          Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

          Originally posted by Dinglesberry
          do u really think that i actually have no friends lol im just being a dumbass for fun
          go be a fucking dumbass to a wall and spare us all the shitshow that is your posts
          I'm dead serious
          you contribute absolutely nothing to this site, to this community. people detest seeing that the latest poster in a thread is "dinglesberry" because you just know it's going to be filled with some edgy ass bullshit where you shit on a thread for no reason other than you have nothing better to do with your time. i'd say i pity you but you're definitely beyond that lol.

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          • Dinglesberry
            longing
            • Dec 2007
            • 2679

            #170
            Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

            isnt that what ur literally doing right now lol, if im an insufferable dumbass or whatever 8000 iq wording you want to use then ur a hypocrite

            im sure many people probably feel the same way about your posts, i know ur probably right regarding me anyways but so what

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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 6206

              #171
              Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

              Oh, that's something I can agree with.

              Online is trash... but I play it anyways because it's really the only way to play with other players (randoms) that doesn't require to go to a venue and pay $5.
              Last edited by Charu; 08-30-2019, 02:09 PM.


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • yo man im awesome
                soleil ardent
                FFR Simfile Author
                • May 2007
                • 6514

                #172
                Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                idk i just always assume people talk about online since i have no life or friends to play irl with (jk theres tournaments around here im just really lazy)

                edit: my main annoyance with it is that its essentially saying "I don't want to actually try to get better tech skill or mechanics, i get me wins me own way and thats what counts, yuuuup...." its basically ruining other peoples experience by forcing them to counter a style that not only has a low skill requirement vs. the reward it gives, but the practice gained from it won't even improve your own gameplay

                sure u could argue that being able to adapt and counter any playstyle is improving but idk, I don't really feel that way

                either way someone can play whatever way they want, im just joking around anyways, i still think its boring to play against though, like playing vs a puff who just tries to time you out and never approaches in melee... not necessarily a bad strategy, but an unenjoyable one to counter
                See the difference here though, is that a lot of the time with puff camping, it's often mechanically impossible to beat in melee. Peach being down even 1 stock vs a lame jigglypuff is realistically near-impossible to come back from.

                Being a stock down vs, say, ganondorf in ultimate is difficult of course, but the gameplan vs him is by no means near-impossible to achieve and come back from, let alone any more difficult than vs an actual top tier with zoning/projectiles like peach or joker.

                For a heavy player, they spend all day often just getting camped out, so the game becomes dodging a literal minefield of projectiles and reading the opponents counter-approach or escape option, and that is just not easy. For the lighter char/zoner, the game is keeping the big guys out so they can't smother you. Overall or in individual interactions it's not too difficult, but being 100% consistent defensively for a match is just not easy.

                Turns out smash is pretty hard

                edit: Basically tl;dr melee jiggly playing lame is based in non-interactivity, whereas zoner vs heavy in ultimate is still full of interaction, and the degeneracy is dependent on the players, not the character.
                Last edited by yo man im awesome; 08-30-2019, 02:23 PM.

                Originally posted by choof
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                • choof
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 8563

                  #173
                  Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                  Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                  isnt that what ur literally doing right now lol, if im an insufferable dumbass or whatever 8000 iq wording you want to use then ur a hypocrite

                  im sure many people probably feel the same way about your posts, i know ur probably right regarding me anyways but so what
                  sure, i guess it's hypocritical of me to ruthlessly attack deadweight who has their head so far up their own ass that they can't see just how much ppl hate them

                  i'll stop attacking you if you get randomize your password and log out forever
                  Last edited by choof; 08-30-2019, 02:30 PM.

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                  • choof
                    Banned
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 8563

                    #174
                    Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                    Originally posted by Charu
                    Oh, that's something I can agree with.

                    Online is trash... but I play it anyways because it's really the only way to play with other players (randoms) that doesn't require to go to a venue and pay $5.
                    lot of venues here have free admission if you bring a setup early

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                    • SubaruPoptart
                      da kyo~
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 736

                      #175
                      Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                      So far I've tended to stick to sword people: I've drifted from Toon Link, to Mii Swordfighter (1321 controls), to Young Link, to the Link with the bombs that you can explode at any time. I'm at Link with controllable bombs right now and I'm not G O O D but I'm not b a d either.

                      Also Pro Controller = only controller. Gamecube controllers are impossible for me.






                      Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                      Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                      Oh God it's Subaru
                      Originally posted by Deamerai
                      damnit subaru
                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                      Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                      • Dinglesberry
                        longing
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2679

                        #176
                        Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                        Originally posted by SubaruPoptart
                        So far I've tended to stick to sword people: I've drifted from Toon Link, to Mii Swordfighter (1321 controls), to Young Link, to the Link with the bombs that you can explode at any time. I'm at Link with controllable bombs right now and I'm not G O O D but I'm not b a d either.

                        Also Pro Controller = only controller. Gamecube controllers are impossible for me.
                        thats the best name for breath of the wild link ive seen so far

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                        • SubaruPoptart
                          da kyo~
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 736

                          #177
                          Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                          Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                          thats the best name for breath of the wild link ive seen so far
                          I just call them all "Link" so I had to discern them somehow. >.<






                          Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                          Originally posted by the sun fan
                          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                          Oh God it's Subaru
                          Originally posted by Deamerai
                          damnit subaru
                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                          Originally posted by the sun fan
                          if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                          Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                          • hi19hi19
                            lol happy
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 12194

                            #178
                            Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                            Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                            exploiting the fact that netcode when playing online is terrible and laggy to abuse "missed techs" doesnt seem like a very good thing to me but to each their own
                            I only play in-person. I don't even own a Switch to play online with, I only play when I hang out with my friends on their consoles. I have literally never even seen what online Ultimate gameplay looks like.

                            Everyone I play with is extremely good; two are easily top 10 in my state. They don't just "miss techs and die" lol they're all fucking nuts, the only way I can have a shot of being competitive (especially since I can't easily practice movement/combos myself, see: not owning my own Switch) is to play a good mental game. Obviously everyone knows why I play this kind of high risk high reward style, my friends don't mind it because when they play in tournaments its not like heavy players don't exist, you gotta get practice against people who play this way if you want to get out of groups.
                            Re: heavies being "unenjoyable to counter" lol what the hell, matchups versus heavies give the hypest moments IMO. Watching two flowchart top tiers just trade combos and fucking teleport back to the ledge once they're offstage is a snorefest after the 20th time you've seen it, shit's a lot more real when one or two missteps can kill me because my recovery is shit and one or two missteps can kill my opponent because they're light as fuck. That's real Smash.




                            I didn't think playing a heavy and trying to get reads would be a particularly controversial opinion but damn, you're assuming a whole lot for calling me "cancer" for no reason lol
                            Last edited by hi19hi19; 08-30-2019, 05:21 PM.


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                            • SubaruPoptart
                              da kyo~
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 736

                              #179
                              Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              I only play in-person. I don't even own a Switch to play online with, I only play when I hang out with my friends on their consoles. I have literally never even seen what online Ultimate gameplay looks like.

                              Everyone I play with is extremely good; two are easily top 10 in my state. They don't just "miss techs and die" lol they're all fucking nuts, the only way I can have a shot of being competitive (especially since I can't easily practice movement/combos myself, see: not owning my own Switch) is to play a good mental game.

                              shit's a lot more real when one or two missteps can kill me because my recovery is shit and one or two missteps can kill my opponent because they're light as fuck. That's real Smash.
                              (edited a lil down)

                              Oh yeah no that's exactly my situation. I don't own a switch yet, and I've only ever played at lunch at school since... we can just straight up bring whole-ass games consoles to school apparently. I am easily the worst of the group, but the games I play are hype af cuz I know enough to actually DO things, but not enough to know what the other person's doing.

                              Sometimes things devolve to me runnin around pressing buttons like a madman hoping something happens, and sometimes, very rarely, I actually get a burst of skill like no other and just DEMOLISH the best player there, it's the literal best.

                              But yeah I only just recently discovered BotW Link so I think I'mma try him out whenever someone brings their Switch again or I go to someone's house.

                              I did Mii Swordfighter for a bit because they could counter and do the Link HYYYAAAAAAA move with the up-b, however I quickly realized I absolutely suck at Mii Swordfighter and really only played it so that "nae-nae'd" could pop up at the end-screen when/if I ever beat anyone.






                              Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                              Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                              Oh God it's Subaru
                              Originally posted by Deamerai
                              damnit subaru
                              Originally posted by FreezinIce
                              You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                              Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                              wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                              Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                              • boomerangbro10
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                                • Dec 2013
                                • 89

                                #180
                                Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate: What'll be ur main mate?

                                i will play kirby until the end of time i dont care what tier lists say
                                i also play duck hunt and p l a n t sometimes but thats not important
                                Last edited by boomerangbro10; 08-30-2019, 07:27 PM. Reason: tense
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