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  • leonid
    I am leonid
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Oct 2008
    • 8080

    #31
    Re: OoT

    Link's Awakening and OoT were the best zelda games I've played

    I should play some more modern zelda games



    Proud member of Team No

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    • Pseudo Enigma
      ごめんなさい (/ω\)
      • Aug 2012
      • 2290

      #32
      Re: OoT

      Originally posted by Reincarnate
      lol that is literally almost one of the blandest shots from the game you could have possibly chosen.

      But N64 graphics at the time were considered state of the art in terms of realtime rendering (OoT was released in 1998-1999 in the US).
      Oh sure I didn't pick something you can find 5 minutes into the game. Because that's what they focused most on. I was pulling something from a random point in the game. Every place that doesn't directly have to do with Hyrule Castle looks like absolute garbage.

      Also N64 was not in any way superior to PS1 if that's what you are getting at. Suikoden II (released the same year as OOT) had 3D rendering and did it better. Granted it was a mixture of 2D and 3D with most emphasis on the 2D aspect. It still had way better presentation than OOT did, and that's pretty bad considering it's one of the titular games in the N64 collection. Hell if we want to talk about if one system's graphical capabilities were superior, I'm sure everyone will agree it was PS1's. So I dunno what you mean by "state-of-the-art."

      "But Pseudo! This doesn't have to do with whether the game was purely enjoyable or not!" But it does. Having a section of a game look as bad as it did in the screenshot I provided takes away from being able to immerse yourself in the game fully, and that was hardly the only area that looked terrible. It goes to show just how unready the technology was to jump to 3D. But they had to start somewhere and I guess their failures on OOT are part of the reason Skyward Sword was anywhere as good as it was. Sorry if you guys enjoyed OOT, I couldn't touch it until it got at least the half decent port to 3DS.

      As far as playing it when it came to the 3DS I thought it was a fine game with some hints of LTTP on it, which means it wasn't an awful game by any means. Just a game with some problems.

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      • Reincarnate
        x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
        • Nov 2010
        • 6332

        #33
        Re: OoT

        I don't care OoT is fantastic get off my lawn

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        • Dynam0
          The Dominator
          • Sep 2005
          • 8987

          #34
          Re: OoT

          FFVII had some pretty disgusting looking sprites but I didn't give two fucks, game is 10/10

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          • Reincarnate
            x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
            • Nov 2010
            • 6332

            #35
            Re: OoT

            What seems to stick with me more than anything when it comes to FF7 is the music

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            • Pseudo Enigma
              ごめんなさい (/ω\)
              • Aug 2012
              • 2290

              #36
              Re: OoT

              Originally posted by Dynam0
              FFVII had some pretty disgusting looking sprites but I didn't give two fucks, game is 10/10
              Originally posted by Dynam0
              sprites
              ha

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              • Pseudo Enigma
                ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                • Aug 2012
                • 2290

                #37
                Re: OoT

                Originally posted by Reincarnate
                I don't care OoT is fantastic get off my lawn
                sick wobs m8 lemme hear ur whine more

                cuz like this is a thread to discuss OOT and not FF7.

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                • Dynam0
                  The Dominator
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 8987

                  #38
                  Re: OoT

                  Is the term sprite a misnomer for something else? I'm talking about these ugly character graphics lmao. I'm not well-versed in shit like this sry



                  Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
                  sick wobs m8 lemme hear ur whine more

                  cuz like this is a thread to discuss OOT and not FF7.
                  rood

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                  • Charu
                    Snivy! Dohoho!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6161

                    #39
                    Re: OoT

                    The one thing I really liked about OoT when it comes to graphics is how they interpreted the shadows for Link and some characters.

                    Those tear drop shadows were brilliant. Whoever decided to do that I hope seriously for huge praise.


                    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                    Had a very shiny nose
                    And if you ever saw it
                    You could even say it glows

                    All of the other Snivies
                    Used to laugh and call him names
                    They never let poor Charu
                    Join in any Snivy games

                    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                    • Charu
                      Snivy! Dohoho!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6161

                      #40
                      Re: OoT

                      Originally posted by Dynam0
                      Is the term sprite a misnomer for something else? I'm talking about these ugly character graphics lmao. I'm not well-versed in shit like this sry




                      rood
                      Sprite usually refers to a 2D graphic.

                      Think of every game before 3D rendering pretty much.


                      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                      Had a very shiny nose
                      And if you ever saw it
                      You could even say it glows

                      All of the other Snivies
                      Used to laugh and call him names
                      They never let poor Charu
                      Join in any Snivy games

                      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                      • Pseudo Enigma
                        ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2290

                        #41
                        Re: OoT

                        Originally posted by Dynam0
                        Is the term sprite a misnomer for something else? I'm talking about these ugly character graphics lmao. I'm not well-versed in shit like this sry
                        np yeah they were pretty bad I have to agree. They didn't try very hard to make them look better than the engine could handle though so it's better than what happened with OOT.

                        (sprites refer to 2D shit like SNES/NES era specifically, I think they call 3d stuff models)

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                        • Reincarnate
                          x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6332

                          #42
                          Re: OoT

                          Dynam0: No, sprites are basically 2D images (think Doom or Wolfenstein or most SNES games)

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                          • Dynam0
                            The Dominator
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 8987

                            #43
                            Re: OoT

                            Gotchas, thx duders

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                            • Mike Weedmark
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1196

                              #44
                              Re: OoT

                              Originally posted by Dynam0
                              FFVII had some pretty disgusting looking sprites but I didn't give two fucks, game is 10/10
                              Christ, you know what was a hojillion times worse than the "sprites?"

                              How some of the videos had fairly realistic characters:


                              And others pulled THIS bullshit:


                              That 2nd one is a pre-fucking rendered FMV.

                              WHY.

                              This is the mark of a mediocre production team imo. Thank fuck the FMVs in 8 and 9 were a titanic improvement.

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                              • Hateandhatred
                                "The Quebec Steparatist."
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1974

                                #45
                                Re: OoT

                                Originally posted by Mike Weedmark
                                Christ, you know what was a hojillion times worse than the "sprites?"

                                How some of the videos had fairly realistic characters:


                                And others pulled THIS bullshit:


                                That 2nd one is a pre-fucking rendered FMV.

                                WHY.

                                This is the mark of a mediocre production team imo. Thank fuck the FMVs in 8 and 9 were a titanic improvement.
                                What are you talking about, they did with the engines they had in hand, do you have any idea what FFVII cost???

                                Also, want to see elite Playstation graphics? Heads to Parasite Eve II:



                                Imo this kicks a lot of PS2 productions in the face.

                                Interestingly (but getting slowly off topic), the 3rd birthday (Parasite Eve 3) featured graphics that actually kick pretty much ANYTHING the PS Vita has to offer, and it's a PSP game. Linking shower scene from that game.

                                Last edited by Hateandhatred; 06-12-2014, 01:44 AM.
                                Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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