Diablo 3

[Izzy]

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50% to 75% Damage reduction is effectively 50% damage reduction.

Are you guys being real right now it's not fucking rocket surgery

That makes more sense, nobody has pointed it out that way. No need to be a dick.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5837013965#14

Found a good explanation.

[MrGiggles]

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I'm getting pretty close to 1.5k all-resist thanks to One with Everything being an absurdly excellent passive.

Still takes a millenia to kill things at t2, I need to start finding some %skill/%elemental damage to augment my paltry 250k sheet damage, preferably replacing some of the less useful AR rolls I have on a few pieces of equipment. I'm undecided on whether to go for a fire damage build (Vulcan Claw Kick, Inner fire, Mangle) or lightning build (Hands of Lightning, Scorpion Sting). Probably depends on what drops for me, although the ability to keep enemies stunned 9 out of every 10 seconds makes me hope I get lightning drops.

I rather hope I die soon, though. It's really hard and time-consuming to find gear that's 'better' once you hit the level cap, and I'm ready to roll a Crusader.

[hi19hi19]

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As for what you're saying Hi, yeah, I see what you mean now. You're definitely better off choosing one or the other, but not for the reason most people seem to think.

I don't even think it is worth thinking about though until your gear is nearly optimal.

Yeah, "diminishing returns" is kind of a misleading phrase because strictly speaking the marginal benefit of 1 point in either stat produces the same increased damage reduction no matter what value you start at.

I'd argue something like "diminishing relative returns" is better (is there a more elegant statistics/economics term for this?), but who the fuck knows what that means anyway

Basically to optimize damage reduction, you think of it as the product of a production function with Armor and Resistance as inputs, using item budget as their units. These effects are shifted along the axes by flat increases to the stat (I believe this functions mathematically the exact same way as the minimum consumption level in a Stone-Geary utility model, for example) and multiplicatively scaled by the item budget value of a point of each (which used to be 10-1) as well as any % modifiers you are using, like Energy Armor.
Then you graph the resulting production isoquants (indifference curves) and minimize to find the ideal amount of armor and resistance for your item budget.
Practically, this doesn't perfectly apply because item budget is not a completely divisible good. You are usually choosing between chunks of armor and all resistance, but this method will still tell you which of the two choices is better just from viewing the isoquants.

Anyway, a spreadsheet does all this for you.

[choof]

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diminishing unimportant returns so we can make "dur" jokes

[MrGiggles]

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RIP RZA

The power went out for half a second

Your move, atheists

[L.B.D.D]

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rip .. .

[Reach]

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Got a royal ring of grandeur tonight.

Awww yeah. Got a SoJ too so ...my body is ready for higher torments.

Sadly the set pieces I need are ...not coming :P

Other than blackthrones.

[hi19hi19]

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Got a royal ring of grandeur tonight.

Awww yeah. Got a SoJ too so ...my body is ready for higher torments.

Sadly the set pieces I need are ...not coming :P

Other than blackthrones.

wow im jelly

[L.B.D.D]

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grats on your royal ring!

took me on average like 2 hours per royal ring (2-3 min/1 cache)
farmed 7 (SEVEN!!) royal rings before i got a trifecta one

still no SoJ with %elem + %crit chance or %fire one.. :c

[Reach]

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7?

lmao.

There are guys that have opened over 1000 act 1 caches and haven't gotten one.

I consider myself pretty lucky. I haven't really opened many act 1 caches and almost never play on normal. Just got lucky. I hadn't actually gotten a legendary from caches for weeks. This was the first one in awhile.

It's only a difecta after reroll with decent int and a socket. Won't be farming for another one though...lol.

[L.B.D.D]

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7?

lmao.

There are guys that have opened over 1000 act 1 caches and haven't gotten one.

I consider myself pretty lucky. I haven't really opened many act 1 caches and almost never play on normal. Just got lucky. I hadn't actually gotten a legendary from caches for weeks. This was the first one in awhile.

It's only a difecta after reroll with decent int and a socket. Won't be farming for another one though...lol.

1k caches? wtf LOL

i've once found two in a 10 minute span..

it might also help that i have 105% magic find at all times? not sure.. i seem to get more legendaries than others on a regular basis (not out of whim) with 105% magic find

maybe magic find is bugged?

[Hakulyte]

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I have 100% magic find and opened 1100+ caches, 0 ring but a lot of trash. RNG for you~

[L.B.D.D]

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gg i can't even fathom going through 1100 caches with no ring..

that's 5500 bounties right?

[NekoGon]

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Does MF work on caches though... 1000+ caches is too crazy. Well at least you can open unlimited rifts now... xd

Also I found Cain's set, Aughild, Captain Crimson plans today, pretty slick. Pretty much replaced 5 equips today (Headgear, bracers, shoulder, gloves, and triumvirate which i got from kadala), and since bracers rolled 20% arcane damage, I decided to switch to arcane torrent build... much better than meteor for sure (takes time to fall, hard to aim). Here's my current build atm: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/G.../hero/41565176

Probably made a mistake with enchanting Triumvirate to %Life, should've went for AP on Crit (couldn't channel arcane torrent forever ) but it's costly (400-500k per enchant now). If I could channel forever I think i can change electrocute to 10% damage sparkflint or something...

Spent 50+ forgotten souls crafting and enchanting shit today, quite a productive day overall~

[Hakulyte]

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gg i can't even fathom going through 1100 caches with no ring..

that's 5500 bounties right?

Oh, my bad. I should have said 1100 bounties.