TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

i'm a thief. i stole your good luck artifact. i have it right now.

Of course I would say I didn't have it, why would I want it getting stolen? It's a 'good luck' artifact, not a 'here give this away' artifact.

Right now I'm more concerned with you saying that I asked stoic after I lied, that's huge, imo. I asked him about 4 lines into the convo, where you said you checked me red. Please don't make things up, it makes you look really bad.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

dbp does have a way out of the newest fojar accusation. We'll see if he uses it.

Wait, what?

[talisman]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

you used it.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

Whatever happened to nija?

[sertman]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

in any case, dbp, why would you panic? why didn't you just say "you're lying, artifact pm's haven't been sent out yet" and posted the convo and tried to pin it on fojar instead of lying right back? that makes you look pretty suspicious.

[talisman]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

his reasoning was that he was trying to get a wolf to try to steal from him. Yet he clearly didn't want to be stolen from, as he had the good luck charm, and as he's recently stated. So the story sort of falls apart there.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

damn I was hoping the wolves wouldn't notice what afro did.

dbp noticed, and talked to me about it almost right after he posted. Seems like more points against him to me.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

Whatever happened to nija?

Man, you're right on topic.

[talisman]

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stressreliefball (11:14:30 PM): so I want to get your story straight
DBP TWG (11:14:38 PM): Ask away
DBP TWG (11:14:44 PM): ps eating pot pie one second.
stressreliefball (11:14:53 PM): ok I'll formulate my questions
DBP TWG (11:16:01 PM): Also, I'm sorry if I'm un-responsive/don't make alot of sense, sleep is coming near XD
stressreliefball (11:16:03 PM): you posted that you told fojar you had the deception so that the wolves would try to take it from you and waste a thieving, yet at the same time you omitted that you had the good luck charm because, as you said later, you didn't want it stolen
stressreliefball (11:16:11 PM): so which is it
stressreliefball (11:16:15 PM): did you want to be stolen from
stressreliefball (11:16:16 PM): or not
DBP TWG (11:16:19 PM): I told him I had two artifacts
stressreliefball (11:16:21 PM): and why did you lie to fojar
DBP TWG (11:16:38 PM): so that one of the wolf thieves would try to steal from me, granted he was a wolf
DBP TWG (11:16:52 PM): which, obviously I can't be too certain about.
stressreliefball (11:17:05 PM): so you didn't care about your good luck charm?
DBP TWG (11:17:21 PM): I then said on the thread that I didn't have either because fojar started looking more human and I didn't want my charm taken away XD
stressreliefball (11:17:46 PM): but initially, you wanted it stolen?
stressreliefball (11:18:39 PM): when he pressed you, and you felt he was a wolf, it seemed like a good idea to you to lie so that the wolves would steal from you... and get a "good luck" artifact?
stressreliefball (11:18:54 PM): this is what does not make sense to me
DBP TWG (11:19:14 PM): Oh wow.
DBP TWG (11:19:18 PM): Haha, I totally get it now
DBP TWG (11:19:25 PM): I feel like such a dumbass.
DBP TWG (11:19:44 PM): And honestly, I don't know what to say to that.
DBP TWG (11:19:48 PM): At the time it made sense to me.
DBP TWG (11:19:55 PM): And now I just feel like a bumbling idiot.
stressreliefball (11:20:00 PM): ok so you're claiming it was a mistake?
DBP TWG (11:20:11 PM): Well it must have been.
DBP TWG (11:20:27 PM): (as in yes)
DBP TWG (11:20:32 PM): Sorry, I'm never to the point.
stressreliefball (11:20:33 PM): ok
DBP TWG (11:20:40 PM): god damn dude.
DBP TWG (11:20:43 PM): I feel so retarded.
DBP TWG (11:20:49 PM): I should just get lynched for srs
stressreliefball (11:21:07 PM): if you're human, you should feel that way
DBP TWG (11:21:17 PM): I am and I do.
stressreliefball (11:21:30 PM): the panic scenario obviously is attractive
DBP TWG (11:21:42 PM): What?
stressreliefball (11:21:51 PM): the idea that you sort of paniced
DBP TWG (11:21:55 PM): Oh, me panicing
DBP TWG (11:22:03 PM): Yes, I see it.
DBP TWG (11:22:59 PM): Wow.
DBP TWG (11:23:07 PM): No, fojar told me this multiple times on aim and I didn't get it.
DBP TWG (11:23:31 PM): I need sleep or something.
stressreliefball (11:23:51 PM): aight I'm going to post this right quick

[nijatwo]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

Just a thought, how do we know fojar isn't the one lying? I might be missing it somewhere, I'm trying to catch up. I've been without internet for a while because of the damned ice.

[JurseyRider734]

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DBP TWG (11:20:49 PM): I should just get lynched for srs



Haha. This makes me think he's a wolf even more. Good catch, though, talisman. Either DBP is a wolf and couldn't get his **** together, or he uhh...is a human who tried to lie to people and couldn't validate anything and therefore failed. I dunno, I think it's safe to go with lynching DBP for day 1. I'm not against it or anything...it's Day 1. Better going with someone we have a lead on than someone random.

[talisman]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

nija, fojar could be a wolf (dbp would have to be human in that case) and still not be lying. dbp has confirmed the essential parts of fojar's story, so it's less likely that fojar is lying.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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Either DBP is a wolf and couldn't get his **** together, or he uhh...is a human who tried to lie to people and couldn't validate anything and therefore failed.

Fojar lied too, if disco had come to the thread about that stuff first, the situation might be reversed.

I dunno, I think it's safe to go with lynching DBP for day 1. I'm not against it or anything...it's Day 1. Better going with someone we have a lead on than someone random.

I vote for someone random, as long as that random person is inactive. Come on guys, disco is like one of the most active people in TWG. You really want to lynch him for something that is being blown out of proportion? Day1 should see the death of someone who is trying to stay in the shadows. If wolves realize that they are more safe talking and out in the open, then maybe activity will go up. Lynching people who do stuff and play this game only contributes to people thinking that the only way to win is to say nothing.

I'm not willing to risk it.

[mead1]

Re: TWG XLII: Raiders of the Temple of the Last Crusade

o hi twg

It looks like DBP is indeed our best candidate at this point. Jurs said it best, it's day one, we're better off offing someone we're fairly suspicious of than someone random. I wasn't really sure one way or the other until that last convo with talis. There are a few plausible reasons he would lie about something like that, and he doesn't seem to be sticking to any of them. I could see Iggy's lying scenario, and I could see him panicking as a human, but he doesn't really seem to be going for either. As talis posted earlier, there's nothing at all to suggest he was baiting the wolves, as he suggests.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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As talis posted earlier, there's nothing at all to suggest he was baiting the wolves, as he suggests.

There's no motive OTHER THAN he was trying to bait the wolves.

You guys realize that if disco is a wolf, he lied about having a deception and good luck artifact. Even though he had the latter, he said he didn't but then flip flopped... and for what purpose? Because fojar is the greatest person at making a wolf lie??? And why would disco lie as a wolf? He had no reason to, it didn't benefit him in anyway if he was a wolf.

It makes more sense that disco found out that fojar lied, then proceeded to tell other lies to trap fojar, which is what fojar did in the first place with the exception that fojar told someone he was going to lie to someone else before he did it.

You lynch disco and you're setting the activity level standard for this game to be really really low. If you guys say "oh it's day1 and this is the best we got" think of what the repercussions will be if you're wrong. You will lose a lot of activity both on and off the thread.

Do not think "It's our best shot." You need to think more along the lines of, "Ok what happens if I'm wrong?" IMO the cons are far worse than the pros even if disco is the most suspicious person.