TWG XXX - Objection!

[nforcer06164]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

April 18, 3:02 PM
City Streets

"Gee, Nick, we've been searching and interrogating for hours, and still nothing. All we have is Tasselfoot's autopsy report. It didn't tell us anything we didn't already know."

"I know. I don't think we can go much more without anything else breaking. I mean, we've asked twelve people, searched the area where the body was found... nothing. There's nothing to go on."

"It's just like I told you earlier this morning, Nick. We don't have anybody to defend. There's really no reason to investigate. We're not involved yet."

"Well, I'm not ready to give up. There will be a suspect eventually. I just need to make sure I'm prepared..."

"Hmm hmm hmm... Phoenix Wright, carrying out his foolish investigations as usual."

"Wha? Oh... it's you."

Miles Edgeworth, a prominent Prosecutor with the state, had just shown up behind Phoenix. Known for his tactics (often underhanded) to get a guilty verdict, his sense of justice came down to the narrow-minded though that every suspect is guilty. He carried an arrogant air about him, as usual. He had acheived fame for winning many cases, after all. Edgeworth's ego was about as inflated as any law official's could be.

"I don't even know why you bother, Wright. In fact, you're looking in the wrong place. There's no evidence here."

"Well, where do you suppose I look, Edgeworth? The murder happened right here."

"On the contrary, Wright... you're quite wrong. A murder happened late during the night. Or, early in the morning, depending how you look at it. The victim's name was chardish , I believe. Stabbed five times in the back, twice in the throat. One of the worst they've seen at the department, I think."

"What? Where?"

"About five miles north of here, on the same road. He was found on the sidewalk, and this tends to be quite the busy street. The murderer had to be pretty stupid to do such a thing... we already have a suspect in custody."

"Wait, wasn't it here? There wasn't a suspect! Don't you mean the victim was... OWW!"

Maya had given Phoenix a quick, discreet stomp on the left foot. She then grabbed Phoenix by the arm and dragged him away from Edgeworth. After they were several yards away, Edgeworth yelled to them...

"Don't bother trying to defend the suspect in this case Wright! He's doomed! Not a chance!"

Phoenix still seemed bewildered by the whole episode. What had happened? Why was there suddenly a suspect when there had been no leads? Why did the murder suddenly happen somewhere miles away from where he was told it had occurred? And wasn't the victim Tasselfoot, not chardish?

"Maya! Why..."

"I had to, Nick. He obviously didn't know about Tasselfoot's murder."

"But he said it was chardish. It was the exact same circumstance. Maybe Gumshoe was wrong."

"Something funny's going on, Nick. We already have Tasselfoot's autopsy report. They can't be the same murder. It's obvious, Nick. Did you get enough sleep?"

"I guess not. That last case was pretty taxing...."

"Well, in any case, Gumshoe should be able to tell us more about that suspect and this other murder. Let's get to the police station. Who knows, Nick? Maybe the fact that Edgeworth doesn't know about Tasselfoot will be enough to defend this suspect!"

"Maybe... oh, hey! See, Maya? I told you we'd get involved in this case!"

"Ah, be quiet."

_____________________________________________
It is now Night 2.

The murderers need to send me a little somethin' somethin'.

Any of those of Phoenix, Maya, and Edgeworth that are still alive have to give me a special somethin' too. But don't if you're dead. Unless they're cinnamon rolls. I've got a hunger for cinnamon rolls right now...

Make sure you get those somethin's to me by 10:00 PM CDT on Friday, or you'll fail like Wilkin.

[nforcer06164]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

April 18, 3:21 PM
Police Department - Criminal Affairs

Phoenix walked into the police department for the second day, with Maya close by his side. Upon entering, they did not see Detective Gumshoe as they expected, but there was a cluster of police officers in one corner of the room, who seemed to be struggling with something (or someone)....

"I tell ya, Dracula! *hic* I'm not drunk! *hic* I just had twelve beer-flavored jellybeans! Ask the banana, it'll tell you everything!"

A banana flew from somewhere inside the police officer cluster, and landed at Phoenix's feet.

"What the... a banana?"

"...okay, buddy. You've already been charged with a DUI, driving on a suspended license, and fleeing from police. Do you want any more charges... your name is matt, right?"

"No! *hic* I said I'm Bob Saget, damnit! Let me go!"

"Okay, buddy. That's enough from you. Off to the slammer you go."

The officer that uttered those words cuffed "Bob Saget" and shuffled him off to the cells. Phoenix, still as bewildered as ever, stood there with a blank look on his face. That is, until he heard a familiar voice...

"Hey, pal! Back again I see! Sorry about the disturbance...."

"Err... that's okay, Detective Gumshoe. Um, I just ran into Edgeworth, and he said someone by the name of chardish had been murdered. Can you tell us about that?"

"Oh, yeah! A report came in just after you left this morning. Another murder took place, same circumstances as Tasselfoot. Stabbed five times in the back, twice in the throat, on the same road. It happened right around midnight, too, just like Tasselfoot. The only difference this time is, we have a suspect."

"Yes, I do believe Edgeworth said something about that. Can you tell us who it is?"

"Of course! It's Colonel Fragson. He was a brilliant marksman, best on the force. He was on the force for quite a long time. He became famous after putting down the cross-town Hobo Wars about five years ago. But, he seemed quite uneasy after the whole ordeal, and he quit. Some say he went crazy in the head, others say he was just worn out. But, it seems that he finally snapped and took it out on someone. His favorite gun was found on the scene. Such a careless mistake on his part."

"That's odd. Do you think he's responsible, Gumshoe?"

"To tell you the truth, pal, I can't see the Colonel doing something like that. Of course, I always had profound respect for him, so I'm a bit biased on that angle."

"Thanks a lot, Gumshoe. Say, would I be able to talk to him?"

"Sorry, pal. Visitation's closed for today. Why would you need to talk to him, anyway?"

"I'm going to defend him, of course! Something about this doesn't seem right to me, but I need to talk to him to make sure."

"Oh. Well, you can always come back tomorrow. Visitation will be open at 10AM sharp."

"Thanks, Gumshoe. We'll talk to you later."

Phoenix and Maya walked out of the station, and headed back to Wright & Co. Law Offices. Phoenix had new purpose now. He was ready to take on a new case, against his primarily rival Edgeworth, no less. But, would he really be able to defend this man? Was he responsible for the murders, or was he really innocent? Little does Phoenix know that he's in for the case of his life....

_____________________________________________

It is now Day 2. Bob Saget succumbed to alcohol poisoning shortly after arriving in his cell. That's right, matt's dead.

I got a bit lazy with my story, so to advance it, murders, lynches, and whatever will occur indiscriminately within the story. Obviously, chardish didn't die during the night... he was lynched. That doesn't follow with the story. It's there for entertainment now, not necessarily to follow game events. Savvy?

iggymatrixcounter (Iggy911Mc)
Kilgamayan (bjstrattonim)
mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
blahblah18 (mastr414)
Kefit (Kefit42)
chardish (This Is Chardish)
GuidoHunter (ElSoyokaze)
Wilkin (Wilkini Evili) - phantom'd ONCE
talisman (stressreliefball)
YuYuRevolution (insanelikeafish)
Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
HansSky (notsofaroff)
Afrobean (Afrobean16)
nickadeemus (crevelkid)
Tps222 (Tps7910)
lightdarkness (lightdarkness42)

The day ends at 9 PM CDT on Sunday. That's April 23rd, in a time zone represented by GMT -6:00. Wilkin failed last time. Don't let it happen to you.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Well, if THAT'S not the wolves going after witnesses, I don't know what is...

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[mattc16]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Damnit, i seem to be dead. good luck humans

[GuidoHunter]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Okay, now that I have some time, I'm actually surprised to see matt die if the wolves were going after witness targets (if someone wants to give an alternative reason for the kill, be my guest, but I'm running with this at the moment). Why not matt? Because there's a better pick: Wilkin. Why? His phantom, of course. Wolves love keeping people with phantoms around, so what better protection for a witness?

Now, I think last game (or two games ago?) was the first where humans were actively lynching people with phantoms, so that's not a common occurrence, but maybe the wolves were counting on that (or maybe waiting until night 3). It's also possible that they were just trying to outthink the prosecutor, but I think that with these endless cycles of reverse psychology, the prosecutor might just be going the most logical route and hoping that the other groups think around him.

I'm not too sure, but if we want to pay any attention to witnesses, I'd say keep an eye on Wilkin.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[talisman]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

k coupla things that need to be cleared up (aside from the matt thing)

-hans' justification for voting chardish.

-who made the fromthewoIves (note the I) account? my suggestion... go to iggy. Be like "I made this account" and then send a pm from both accounts (yours and woIves) confirming this. Because if the wolves really did make the "fromthewolves" account, then whoever made the "fromthewoIves" is probably human. But only probably, and yet it would be a good thing for iggy to know.

[talisman]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

and here's something else that might be worth reading:

Tps7910 (6:01:46 PM): Did TWG start yet?
stressreliefball (6:01:49 PM): yeah
Tps7910 (6:01:53 PM): Who ded?
stressreliefball (6:01:55 PM): matt died
stressreliefball (6:02:00 PM): ps I saw you watching the thread
stressreliefball (6:02:03 PM): earlier
stressreliefball (6:02:14 PM): like after day broke
Tps7910 (6:02:17 PM): Really?
stressreliefball (6:02:26 PM): yeah I'm pretty sure
Tps7910 (6:02:36 PM): My bro was on earlier
Tps7910 (6:02:43 PM): Like, a couple of hours ago
stressreliefball (6:02:57 PM): this was within an hour
Tps7910 (6:03:00 PM): I stay logged in all the time, he was probably just browsing or something
Tps7910 (6:03:09 PM): Ah.
Tps7910 (6:03:14 PM): I don't know then.
Tps7910 (6:03:43 PM): Maybe I was just testing you
stressreliefball (6:03:49 PM): what?
Tps7910 (6:04:24 PM): To see if you were paying attention
Tps7910 (6:04:34 PM): Looking for slipups
stressreliefball (6:04:39 PM): uh... what?
stressreliefball (6:04:45 PM): that's retarded dude
Tps7910 (6:05:16 PM): Is it?
stressreliefball (6:05:24 PM): uh yeah
Tps7910 (6:05:28 PM): How so?
stressreliefball (6:05:31 PM): you were testing to see if I'd seen you browsing?
stressreliefball (6:05:32 PM): wtf
Tps7910 (6:05:35 PM): What if you said someone else.
Tps7910 (6:05:42 PM): I'm talking about who died.
Tps7910 (6:05:47 PM): What if you said someone else.
stressreliefball (6:05:51 PM): what do you mean?
Tps7910 (6:05:58 PM): Like, I know matt died.
stressreliefball (6:05:59 PM): why would I say someone else?
Tps7910 (6:06:03 PM): Wolf slip
Tps7910 (6:06:06 PM): plans for next kill
Tps7910 (6:06:07 PM): anything
stressreliefball (6:06:35 PM): right
stressreliefball (6:06:44 PM): are you saying that's what you were doing?
Tps7910 (6:06:51 PM): Yes.
stressreliefball (6:06:55 PM): because earlier you said that's what you "might" have been doing
Tps7910 (6:06:58 PM): Why else would I do that?
Tps7910 (6:07:04 PM): It was furthering of the test.
stressreliefball (6:07:08 PM): I don't know why else
Tps7910 (6:07:15 PM): You're making it seem like I'm lying out my ass.
stressreliefball (6:07:33 PM): well I dunno, it seems like a silly test
Tps7910 (6:10:31 PM): Not if you slipped up.
Tps7910 (6:10:34 PM): No loss all gain.
Tps7910 (6:10:37 PM): My kind of risk.
stressreliefball (6:10:51 PM): right...

[talisman]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

update, the truth comes out:

stressreliefball (6:11:35 PM): you'll forgive me if it seems to me like you pulled all that **** out of your ass
Tps7910 (6:12:37 PM): Well, I did, kind of.
Tps7910 (6:12:46 PM): I just wanted to bring up current conversation.
Tps7910 (6:12:52 PM): So I felt that was a good way to do it.
stressreliefball (6:13:03 PM): haha ok
Tps7910 (6:13:06 PM): I panicked and BS'd my way out of it.
Tps7910 (6:13:16 PM): I'm a pretty bad liar.
stressreliefball (6:13:18 PM): no need to pretend like you hadn't seen the thread yet though

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

lol dang I have received SOOOOO many PMs this game. I think so far I've collected about 50 just for this game.

Course I've sent a million too but 50 is about how many I've received.

And let's try to get some discussion out there guys.

[Wilkin]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Okay, let's talk about a couple of things:

1) My phantom. Oops. From the moment I learned what they were, I never intended to get one. Last night I was with a classmate working on a Japanese project, and between the lack of computer and taking dreadfully long, I missed the deadline. I didn't even realize it until Hans sent me a text message saying something along the lines of "twg = phantom for you lolz." I promptly sent him one back reading "CRAP." I got back to my computer about an hour later only to realize that I had missed forty posts in my absence.

2) My actual feelings by the end of Day 1. The whole Chardish idea seemed very rushed, especially since several points wavered between lynching him for being a wolf or witness. One major concern I had about this game was my lack of experience with Kefit, Chardish, LD, etc. Thus, I can't completely understand everyone's reasoning for the Chardish lynch beyond gut feelings and analysis of his two posts. Were I around and active to make my vote last night, chances were it would have been a safety vote, as I had no real strong inclinations even while rereading the thread after the day had ended.

3) Guido's last post. After thinking about it, It wouldn't be profitable for the wolves to give up a possible witness just to have a phantom in the humans. The reverse-reverse-reverse-whatever psychology aside, I think my eligibility as a witness has greatly diminished, seeing as how my survival record for after Night 2 is 0/2. Also, the wolves are just as concerned about the Prosecution as we are, if not more, as they have a much easier way to decide a kill, and thus more pressure to make the correct decision. While I know the phantom can work against the humans in the later days, those later days can only come if we worry about the Prosecution/wolves now. My phantom won't even matter if the Prosecution manages to dodge its possible two witnesses by now through three more deaths by Night 4.

4) Hans. He wrote that he would explain his voting on Chardish the next day, yet he hasn't posted. I know for a fact that he will be gone for most of the weekend (until Sunday afternoon/early evening), and would think that since there was probably a little under two hours between the start of Day 2 and his departure, that he would have made a post. I'm not sure what exactly I take from this, be it wolf, Prosecutor, witness, or laziness, but it does leave a rather ambiguous hole if he comes up in discussion.

5) The night's kill. First Tass, and now matt. I hardly noticed his presence at all, which would make him a perfect candidate for the Prosecutor's pick, and thus the wolves' also. If this is indeed the reasoning, then it may be safe to assume that the wolves are afraid enough of the Prosecution to be continuing on this conspicuous pattern of kills. While my phantom gives them a bonus for the future, the humans aren't their biggest priority at the moment, which may leave room for interpretation - mainly, who would be this cautious. While I'm sure most people would do the same thing (going for witnesses) were they in the same position, a major part of figuring out any of the humans' enemies is trying to find out who's getting into the head of whom. The wolves want to think like the Prosecutor while the Prosecutor wants to think like the wolves thinking like the Prosecutor. While that doesn't give much reasoning to call anyone out at the moment, some discussion could be put around it to stir up any feelings toward someone who might work like this.

If another chat occurs sometime on Sunday, I'll be availabe from 1 - 7 EST, especially since I missed the last one. I'll be able to be very active, and want to put some of these ideas into more discussion.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

It's time for some color coded suspcion chart fun. The higher the number is, the more either red or gray the colors become, depending on which side I think the person is on.

iggymatrixcounter - 1 - Seer.

Kilgamayan - 5 - The only reason he's so high on the grey scale is because he would make an excellent witness choice. His arguements near the end of the day with talisman were sound (although I saw wisdom in the points both parties were trying to make). No reason for me to suspect him as a wolf.

blahblah18 - 8 - I'm still really thinking blah is SOMETHING other than human. As i've already said, he's acting in a similar manner to last game, but only similar, not exactly the same. This indicates to me that he may not be on the wolves' team, just not on ours.

Kefit - 7 - Offered a lot of legistics about who wins before whom, made a few comments like this one where he sort of goes "ohnos guyz we're doomd =((((" I am leaning towards the idea that he is in the prosecution team, if not the prosecutor himself.

GuidoHunter - 3 - Had a lot of ideas this game that I have seen reasonable, and have aggreed with. Seems to genuinely be wanting to further the human cause.

Wilkin - 5 - My gut had said Wilkin's the prosecutor (until his most recent post), his phantom really doesn't help my theory though, because with a phantom, there's a much lower chance he'll be wolfed, and then "gaurded" in the night. Nothing much to say on him at the moment except many of his points in his most recent post I am in complete agreement with.

talisman - 4 - I really can't decide on talis. I'll be totally not suspicious of him, and then I'll think of the game when he was master with jurs and tps and think "hmmmmmmmmm." He said he would kill Tass no matter what pre-game. He said he would re-read the thread to see if he could find someone else he thought suspicious as a wolf, instead of voting off a witness, but then never posted again (that day). I really am leaning human here, I think the rest is just my paranoia getting the best of me.

HansSky - 7 - Pretty high up there for me, seems to be playing the inactive wolf game. I would like to hear from him, as others have said, about his last minute vote yesterday.

Afrobean - 6 - Afro's posts have been for the most part, sparse and contentless. I'd really like him to post more (although he has been active in some of the AIM chats). Seems to be less active than he was last game, which might indicate his lack of caring for the current game, after just playing a game as a wolf. Overall very unsure about Afro.

nickadeemus - 5 - No idea here. He posted twice on page 1, both of which I couldn't get anything out of. No gut feelings of wolf or prosecutor, but also no reason to think he's human. Maybe he should get a replacement due to his most recent post.

Tps222 - 7 - I really still think he's one of the mystery PM'ers. It's just too tps.

lightdarkness - 8 - I think LD is in the prosecution team for the following reasons: TPS's reasoning, and this post. It's like he's already given reasons he couldn't have sent that PM, and is thinking that obviously he's definately not the prosecutor, and is totally free from suspicion. Drives the point home way too hard, not to mention the fact that just because someone didn't send the "fromtheprosecutor" PM, doesn't mean they're not IN the prosecution team, if not the prosecutor themselves.

[blahblah18]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

and see, amazingly, I agree with so much of what Fish just said, except I have talisman waaaay higher on scaryness. I feel TPS is a wolf, Talisman is the prosecutor, LD a witness, one of the n00bs another wolf, and then remember there's a very ver good chance that there isn't even a second witness, because they have to choose a green two days in a row... not so high probability of that. Based on all those conclusions my vote is going on tps although I would be completely fine with talisman dying today as well

[Tps222]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Yeah, well, you're wrong.

I got the wolves as Hans, LD, and Nick.

Blah as the prosecutor.

I'm just human.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

Quick note to you witnesses: If you guys are told when/if you are turned back into humans (in the event of the prosecutor's death), go ahead and say "hey guys, I was a witness, but the prosecutor's dead." This, of course, could be easily faked, unless there are two witnesses who agree that they are both humans. Even then, if it is faked, we got ourselves two non-humans. Just something I was talking out with Kefit just now. It would help the human team immensely to know if/when the prosecutor is dead.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG 30 - Objection!

I like this activity, guys. How about this new PM?

AFROBEAN WAS CHOSEN AS A WITNESS LAST NIGHT BUT THE PICK FAILED.

So we have three options here: Afro is a wolf, Afro is the guardian, or the wolves are trying to trick us. I'd like to think the first, just because it would be nice to have a wolf down, but I'll wait to pass judgement until Iggy speaks.

Edit for grammar: "tried to trick us" lol