TWG VIII (The Matrix Has You) Day 4

[alainbryden]

Stop picking apart my posts

Welcome to TWG :P jk

[Lupin_the_3rd]

And where are Kefit, Lupin, Whorli?

I do have a life on weekends besides TWG...

I'm working most of tomorrow and then have an SAT tutor for preparation in the spring.
During the weekdays, I should have more time to commit to this, however.

[blahblah18]

So far from what I have seen going on here and frmo my personal knowledge of events, I'm suspicious of both LD and Tsuteto... look how Tsuteto tries to make his basis for voting alain be an already used reason, but the probglem is that the reason really holds no water in his situation, because he changed his vote a lot day 1, he knew people were actively being told to have their vote changed, and not only did he not get bothered by it, but he went along with it.
LD continues to say that somewhere I contradicted myself not once but TWICE, yet every time that I"ve asked him about it he has had nothing to say about it. He's been seemingly evading most of what I ask on AIM, and although I"m usually one to not change my vote, I"ll say that since its still fairly early, there's room for change, but for now my vote goes to
LD

[CypherToorima]

I'm here, I'm here.

My brother has had a couple days off from work and wouldn't give up the computer (he was playing WoW for, like...10 hours straight for two days)

Well, now that I've read the whole game, I have two people on my suspision list. ld and Jurs. M-A-C is there too, but not as high as the other two.

ld has been spitting out names like mad, and giving sorry reasons to vote for them. Jurs and M-A-C have been relentless in their support of him (as far as I can remember)

I'd like to apologize for my extreme lack of attendence, but my brother is stubborn as a bull.

[CypherToorima]

Well, Jurs has supported ld more than M-A-C has, I think.

I might read through this again.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

I had plenty of time to think all day at work, and I've come to the conclusion that Lightdarkness seems to be trying too hard to get Alain some votes from some of the more gullible players. I hate to bandwagon onto Blah's vote, but I was set on this vote when I left from work. This vote is not going to change, as I have a tutor in a little bit.

[Afrobean]

Lupin, I too am suspicious of LD, but I have nothing to add. I'd feel like I was badnwagoning. Because of this, I've gone back and reread some. I've decided that Tsuteto is probably an agent. I've reread some things that he's said, and I've been getting a vibe from him that doesn't say "human newb"; it says "wolf newb." He claimed I was an agent because Alain was defending me. I can see what he's saying here, but it really doesn't make much sense if you stop to think about it. Alain would not put his own life in danger to try to save a wolf partner. I would think that even a newb to this game would figure out that a wolf defending a wolf would only put them both in danger.

[alainbryden]

Allthough I agree that LD is suspicious, for some reason I'm not inclined to beleive he's a wolf yet. Tsuteto, as I mentioned before, I do, however I'm more confident that whorlichan is a wolf, and will not let that fade just because she hasn't posted in the past 42 hours. I realise now, noticing how I almost forgot about her, how effective a strategy it is to just not talk for a day when suspicion is building on you, and I won't be distracted by others for now. I will, however, move my vote over to Tsuteto if someone I feel that is less likely to be a wolf is at risk of being lynched over him.

[lightdarkness]

So far from what I have seen going on here and frmo my personal knowledge of events, I'm suspicious of both LD and Tsuteto... look how Tsuteto tries to make his basis for voting alain be an already used reason, but the probglem is that the reason really holds no water in his situation, because he changed his vote a lot day 1, he knew people were actively being told to have their vote changed, and not only did he not get bothered by it, but he went along with it.
LD continues to say that somewhere I contradicted myself not once but TWICE, yet every time that I"ve asked him about it he has had nothing to say about it. He's been seemingly evading most of what I ask on AIM, and although I"m usually one to not change my vote, I"ll say that since its still fairly early, there's room for change, but for now my vote goes to
LD

I've told you several times how you contradicted yourself.

First you told me you were being guarded, but then it turned out you weren't. I understand that. However, when you were explaining it to me, you said you weren't in contact with the guardian. A few minutes later, you said you were in contact with the guardian. That is the contradiction I am talking about.

[Squeek]

6-hour warning.

Squeek's Totally Not-Stolen Friendy Guide to Bandwagon Voting™

Alainbryden (3) - Kilgamayan, M-A-C, Tsuteto.
Lightdarkness (2) - Blahblah, Lupin.
Tsuteto (1) - Afrobean.
Whorlichan (1) - Alainbryden.
Afrobean (1) - JurseyRider.

Cypher (1) - Phantom.

NOT VOTED (Eight) - Cypher, evilbutterfly, Flypie, Kefit, Lightdarkness, Nforcer, Tps222, Whorlichan.

Eight people have voted, eight have not. You have 6 hours.

~Squeek

[Tps222]

Ah, those crazy Jets.

Tsuteto, you voted for alain without out any credible evidence, definately looks like bandwagoning, you say that you always back your votes up, but i haven't seen it yet, if you prove some reasonable evidence to your accusation then maybe i will re-think this, but untill then my vote goes to [b]Tsuteto.

[Tps222]

To fix my post from above Tsuteto

[evilbutterfly]

Back a few pages, at the end of Day 1: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=asc&start=165

There, Kefit shows up and says something, Jurs points out he's been inactive, a couple people vote for him. A little further down, I make my big post defending alain and voting for Chardish. Then blah and afro both vote Chardish (we had been talking about it and felt it was a decent idea, so when I made my post it basically paved the way for their votes). nforcer comes in to vote for Kefit, giving some reasons but not really saying them at all. Kinda suspicious, but we let it slide. Tsuteto then basically bandwagons onto the Chardish vote. LD makes a vote for flypie because they haven't talked much, but probably moreso because he doesn't wanna kill Chardish and tps goes after flypie as well. Then, we come to an interesting spot. nforcer, who just changed his changed his vote (with little visible reason) only about 10 minutes before, changes again, only this time he votes for Chardish. Now why would he do that?

The main reason I voted for Chardish was because he didn't respond to me. Apparently quite a few people were suspicious of Chardish, and my vote along with blah and Afro's made it look like they could vote for him without feeling any reprucussions. Some (like Afrobean) are scared to vote for big players because they think everybody will claim them to be a wolf for doing so. The problem is, Chardish hasn't been very active. Last game he hosted and it didn't get updated very often, because he was always away it seemed. This game (as I was told later by people who tried to contact him) he was away for extended periods of time, so he probably just didn't read close enough to see my post. You see, Chardish was not a wolf. I didn't really have much info against him, but everybody started voting for him and he died and it's my fault. Psycic tells me he was human, so I screwed up. However, maybe this sad event will help us pin a wolf. To help make it easier to see, I'll make a quick little timeline:

At the top of that page I linked to, right before my post, the votes stood like this:

Alain: Kefit, LD, Whorli,Tsuteto, nforcer, Kilga, and Chardish (7)
Chardish: Alain (1)

At 7-1, Alain was pretty much screwed. As we go down the page, this changes rather quickly.

Tsuteto changes to Jurs: 6-1
I vote Chardish: 6-2
Blah votes Chardish: 6-3
Afro votes Chardish: 6-4
nforcer switches to Kefit: 5-4
Tsuteto switches to Chardish: 5-5
LD switches to flypie: 4-5 <---Chardish takes the lead
nforcer switches to Chardish: 4-6 <---seals the deal
Jurs switches to alain: 5-6 <---could have saved Chardish if not for nforcer

Now we see a few things there. Wolves would know that Chardish was a human, and would want to dispose of him. However, a smart wolf would not vote directly for him, because that would be suspicious. Instead, they may divert the vote to another place, letting the one they want to die take the lead. For that reason, I'm also keeping my eye on LD, but nforcer can take the heat for now.

[M-A-C]

*claps*

Nice job EB. Mabey this might swing some votes.

[Afrobean]

Jurs switches to alain: 5-6 <---could have saved Chardish if not for nforcer

Yea, but LD staying on Alain would have also saved Chardish. That was a bad move lightdarkness, now you've got me convinced you're an agent. You're move to Flypie was totally unjustified in my opinion, and it was one of the things that caused the death of Chardish, a confirmed human.

PS While I'm thinking about it I want to say something not related to the actual game. The wolves are Smiths, right? Well when Smith gains the power to replicate himself into other people's bodies, he's no longer an agent. What I'm saying is this: shouldn't we be accusing others to be "Smiths" rather than "Agents"?

PPS Sorry Chardish. I honestly believed you were an agent.