TWG VIII (The Matrix Has You) Day 4

[nforcer06164]

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Ld, I think I know what to make of that. If blah thinks you're a wolf, he would have told you he was being guardianed that night, baisically giving the guardian a free pass to guard someone else, which he did. How lucky was that. This does put incriminating evidence on you, but it's just as possible that the wolves suspected from their own good reason that blah would be guarded and went for another valuable player which evilbutterfly seems to be.

No, alain. blah told me the EXACT same thing. I didn't save the conversation... sorry, it's not a habit of mine... but he did tell me he was going to be guarded last night. Imagine my shock when I saw that not only was evilbutterfly guarded, but LD was told the same thing. So we either have a phony guardian or a tricky wolf on our hands here.

I'm glad I can rule out evilbutterfly as an agent now, but now that nothing matches up after that night, there's nothing for me to go on yet.

[M-A-C]

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So he told you the exact same thing. This must be a tricky way of trying to tell everyone he's a human. Or what he could be doing is Im'ing anyone he thinks is a wolf, just to tell him he's going to get guarded that night. Mabey this is a strange stratagy so he doesn't get lynched.

[flypie743]

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Blah told me the same thing, also. Apparently he was not gaurded =/

[nforcer06164]

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My thoughts were that he was trying to deter agents from voting for him, with them thinking he was going to be guarded. Even though he told me he did not think I was an agent, me, LD, and Flypie were all told the same thing. If he thinks we're wolves, he could be lying to all of us. Whether he thought that Chardish was a genuine agent or not, things could get pretty tricky for him if someone else comes forward with evidence that they were told the same thing as the three of us.

[blahblah18]

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okok here I am.. I believe I told 7 people. This was a plan the whole time. Its very similar to what alain posted basically and was what the gist of what MAC. Basically the guardian (whom shall remain nameless, by me at least, for obviosu reasons) came to me, and we decided of a plan. At first the plan was going to tell a couple people, the top candidates for wolves about who was being guarded, and then seeing if based on the kill we could determine who the wolves were. But we decided that would only add to suspicions of everyone we thought suspicious and not narrow down the field, so instead we decided to tell tons of people that i would be guarded, and assumed that that owuld be enough protection that i actually wouldn't be guarded tonight, and instead have it go to the next most likely person, which based on the votes, and being a person with little suspicion on him, was EB. So that was that, and that's what happened.

[alainbryden]

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I just want to say I'm surprised that nobody figured that out before blah had to say it. As I said before, I'm more suspicious of LD for trying to make something of it, then just surprised that right after I reasoned to you all why he did it, you proceeded to ignore that fact and keep finding it suspicious that he said that. Seriously, you guys need to be more receptive to what other people are suggesting. Is there any way to get through? Don't assume someone's a wolf just because you don't understand what they are saying/doing.

btw blah, well done, you just really boosted the humans' chances.

[alainbryden]

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So we either have a phony guardian or a tricky wolf on our hands here.

I'd like to know from where in gods name you drew that conclusion.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

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So we either have a phony guardian or a tricky wolf on our hands here.

I'd like to know from where in gods name you drew that conclusion.

hah....I think that he believes that blah was in contact with a wolf pretending to be a guardian

[nforcer06164]

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So we either have a phony guardian or a tricky wolf on our hands here.

I'd like to know from where in gods name you drew that conclusion.

hah....I think that he believes that blah was in contact with a wolf pretending to be a guardian

That's exactly what I thought, until blah came out and expalained everything. I must say, his explanation makes a whole lot more sense that what I previously thought.

[evilbutterfly]

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Okay guys, so here's the deal: I've been contacted by all four masons and the guardian. Don't worry about blah trying to preserve himself, he's not trying to deceive you guys. If he was a wolf, the guardian would most likely be dead. The plan from the start was for blah to say he was gonna be guarded so the wolves wouldn't think to attack him. Me being loud-mouthed and not stupid (but not so smart seeming that I would be likely to be guarded) I was a good target for the wolves. I even said that yesterday before any of this happened. I guess the guardian picked up on that (and blah reassured him/her it was a good idea, if he/she had any doubts) and guarded me last night.

I have yet to be contacted by the psycic, however. I would really appreciate if you could come and tell me if Chardish really was a wolf or not. That would help immensely, because I seriously thought he was and I'll feel bad if you tell me there are still just as many wolves left...

[nforcer06164]

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Well, if roopert was the psychic, then we've got a problem... We know that at least one human is gone, blah and EB are most likely human, and EB has the masons and guardian figured out... unless, of course, there's a deceiving wolf out there. Be carrful EB. After all, when the guardian saves you, the wolves are going to take the opportunity to come out trying to lure you into some false information. Any "psychic" that comes forward now could just as likely be a wolf as a real psychic.

[M-A-C]

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Well, if roopert was the psychic, then we've got a problem... We know that at least one human is gone, blah and EB are most likely human, and EB has the masons and guardian figured out... unless, of course, there's a deceiving wolf out there. Be carrful EB. After all, when the guardian saves you, the wolves are going to take the opportunity to come out trying to lure you into some false information. Any "psychic" that comes forward now could just as likely be a wolf as a real psychic.

I know what your saying, but I highly doubt that roopert was the psychic. Then again he could have been the psychic, but most likely the psychic is still alive.

[lightdarkness]

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I'm personally supprised that nforcer was so quick so say "Oh, thats what happened? Oh ok, you're human." That just seemed very odd to me.

And Alain, the reason I was and did make something of it, is because blah changed his story 2 times SINCE saying that, not just "Oh crap, didn't work, heres what really happened." After explaining, he changed it again! I'm supprised blah hasn't comment since i've brought that up.

[nforcer06164]

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I'm personally supprised that nforcer was so quick so say "Oh, thats what happened? Oh ok, you're human." That just seemed very odd to me.

I was just saying that his story makes a lot more sense than my version of things. I never said, "OK, yeah, he has to be human." I talked to alain and eb, and I still have high doubts that blah could be an agent, but I'm not ruling it out yet. You can never be sure.

[alainbryden]

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He didn't change his story LD, he just withheld the fact that he knew who the guardian was the first time. You should have figured that out yourself.

EB, I wouldn't want the psychic to come fourth too much. Even if he does, you can use whatever information he/she gives you but do not tell the psychic anything or anyone you know, because it is the easiest role for a wolf to fake, and you've given them the opportunity to take advantage of your trusted position since you've declared to them all that you haven't been contacted by the psychic yet. Whatever the psychic tells you, you should take it to heart, but the psychic should understand that you are going to tell him nothing. That is my advice.

And again, ld, nforcer was right. He never said anything about blah being human, just that it made more sence. You are really coming off wolfy the way you are making up things that don't exist in other people's posts. I suggest you cool it with the unsubstantiated accusations.