TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

if you're not going to be around for EOD, are you going to be around at least close to it? Like, what's your time frame

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

rip funny

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

rip funny

sry. until like 3:30 server time

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Idk? Like, it just kind of made sense ig
Could be because I was already thinking of him as being in a mentor pairing

hm, ok

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Vote Count (thru #1261)

2 — mellon_collie — Duskfall, flashflash account
1 — Funnygurl555 — SubaruPoptart
1 — storn42 — MixMasterLar
1 — TWGma — Funnygurl555
1 — flashflash account — the sun fan
4 — Not Voting — storn42, mellon_collie, TWGma, DaBackpack, XelNya

Progression:
(may not always accompany votecount)

MixMasterLar - - - - - --> storn42
flashflash account -- ---> storn42
the sun fan -- -- -- -- --> Funnygurl555
Duskfall -- -- - - -- - ---> TWGma
SubaruPoptart -- --- ---> Funnygurl555
Duskfall -- - - -- -- - ---> mellon_collie
Funnygurl555 - - -- - --> TWGma
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Funnygurl555 - - -- - --> TWGma
the sun fan - - - - - - --> flashflash account
flashflash account - - - > the sun fan
flashflash account - - - > storn42
flashflash account - - - > mellon_collie

As always, if any votes are missing or incorrectly logged, please reach me on discord to get it corrected ASAP.




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[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

hm, ok

it's because I'm such a massive bigbrain actually

I guess my only real request from you is that you are here as late as possible tomorrow

I have a town read on you atm but it's a tier below dusk/sunfan, probably in the same tier as like twgma and backpack

I liked your catchup and it def made me feel good about you

if you were to read based solely on people you interacted with today, what would the reads list look like compared to when you factor in your catchup

[storn42]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

this game will be easyish, I think
not like that horrendous MU game

ffa

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

it's because I'm such a massive bigbrain actually

I guess my only real request from you is that you are here as late as possible tomorrow

I have a town read on you atm but it's a tier below dusk/sunfan, probably in the same tier as like twgma and backpack

I liked your catchup and it def made me feel good about you

if you were to read based solely on people you interacted with today, what would the reads list look like compared to when you factor in your catchup

i have to town read sunfan

if raeko or dusk flip wolf i ignore the other one

for now you're a pass

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

i have to town read sunfan

if raeko or dusk flip wolf i ignore the other one

for now you're a pass

I'll take it :derp:

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Chadwick finally learned bubble beam and is now a good Pokemon

24 levels

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

I dedicated yesterday to doing all my homework and catching up on reading/lectures which naturally means I got the easiest assignment done and did no reading at all

On the bright side I got a solo tail cut against guardian, which can be pretty difficult/time consuming, especially since I'm using a rapier

[storn42]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

I don't follow you. What's your conclusion/point?

ok, so, looking at that post there are 2 ways to try and take it. 1: charu is a wolf and is trying to get a free vigi claim 2: charu has found some mechanical reason claiming works, and he thinks it might be a good idea.

if we go with option 1 we ignore the post and woo the vigi killed the wolf mentor. If we go with option 2 however we have the rabbit hole of what charu was actually going on about.

so charu thinks there is a way that we have the vigi claim after only 1 shot, and they can get off another shot afterwards despite the wolf roleblocker being in game. this is something he only hinted at but never actually explained. did he never explain it because nobody wanted to talk about it, or did he have other ideas? you see, by public explanation of the plan, i believe it is something that becomes less effective as the wolves can then learn our plan and try and out smart it. so instantly by me talking about it this plan already mostly goes out the window. The main point charu was hinting at was that the roleblocker cant target the same person 2 nights in a row. therefore by having the vigi claim, we play mind games with the roleblocker, i think the idea is that the night after the vigi claims he doesn't shoot, gets roleblocked, and the night after he still gets his shot off. But now by explaining the plan, we effectively get a 50% chance for the shot to be blocked since either the roleblocker will have his block on the vigi or wont and it all becomes mind games. only problem is how does the vigi not get NKed. well luckily we have 2 protection roles, and even though they cant target the same person every night, they can alternate who can protect him. great but they both macho and how do we make sure they can protect him without choosing the same night. well luckily both roles have different names so we can instruct when which night they should protect the vigi. and that means as long as we have both of them alive the vigi is safe. great! so if the vigi claims we have a confirmed towny with only a 50% chance to get roleblocked great! nope actually we have a confirmed town with a 100% chance to get roleblocked. because one of our protection roles is a jailer, and that means that the vigi gets roleblocked when the jailer protects him, but that just means we have 2 50% chances so a 75% chance he is roleblocked, except town has to announce who guards the vigi each night do the wolves already know if the vigi is already roleblocked and will just roleblock him when its the doctors turn to protect. so the plan doesn't ever work.

what does this mean?!?! well, it just means that it only makes sense for the vigi to ever claim if he knows he was roleblocked, or is out of bullets. and that i spent way to long wrapping my brain around that.

and because of how convoluted that line of thinking has to be and why charu wasn't actually sure if it was a good idea, means there is a good chance that comes from a town aligned charu. the vigi still could've shot him though (not that it matters if he's town)

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

What

[storn42]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

What

all you need to know is that the post made me think way too much about game mechanics in a line of thought that at the end of it was basically pointless.

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

How good is charu?