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  • flashflash account
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2017
    • 567

    #1726
    Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
    Well as much as I would normally find the time to scream about this, I actually think we should switch out DBP for Funny in that PoE, so in the end I don't disagree with your point, per se.

    I think it's Subaru/Xel/Funny and if I'm wrong on a town read it's probably Trevor then Dusk in that order, replacing Subaru.

    I think Funny's a hit but maybe the lynch just needs to be Xel
    there was a lot of unspoken resistance to the xel lynch. Realistically I'm not voting outside xel/poptart barring some bizarre double PR claim (and at that point it's likely a fake claim)
    aka mikey

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    Originally posted by FreezinIce
    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

    Originally posted by QueenAshy
    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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    • MixMasterLar
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      #1727
      Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

      Duskfall making sense

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      • flashflash account
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        • Apr 2017
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        #1728
        Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

        like, if i can read the thread and see that storn is flipping town just cause of thread state, everyone else should be able to as well
        the eod was largely inactive- I think wolves straight up didn't need to be there, and weren't

        FG's content from when she is here however has felt comparable to like, backpack to me, it's jiving with me, I see her headspace and it's fairly pure
        aka mikey

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        Originally posted by FreezinIce
        FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

        Originally posted by QueenAshy
        I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
        seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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        • MixMasterLar
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          • Aug 2006
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          #1729
          Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

          God I wish wish wish Vigi had killed Funny this would be easy af.

          But yeah I think if Xel is in everyone's PoE that's who I'll vote for.

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          • flashflash account
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            • Apr 2017
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            #1730
            Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

            FG paired with backpack still isn't a world that exists unless you think FG was more or less begging people to vote her partner

            yeahyeah bussing exists w/e
            aka mikey

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            Originally posted by FreezinIce
            FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

            Originally posted by QueenAshy
            I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
            i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
            seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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            • MixMasterLar
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              #1731
              Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

              Originally posted by flashflash account

              FG's content from when she is here however has felt comparable to like, backpack to me
              Fucking what

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              • MixMasterLar
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                • Aug 2006
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                #1732
                Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                Originally posted by flashflash account
                FG paired with backpack still isn't a world that exists unless you think FG was more or less begging people to vote her partner

                yeahyeah bussing exists w/e
                She's bussed before
                She'll bussed again
                Don't know if I believe that are partners tho

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                • flashflash account
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                  #1733
                  Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  Fucking what
                  yes lol
                  am I the crazy one? Do I actually need to go back and reread?
                  idk what you see other than wagonomics here
                  she's pretty town
                  aka mikey

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                  Originally posted by FreezinIce
                  FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                  Originally posted by QueenAshy
                  I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                  Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                  i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                  Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                  seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                  • flashflash account
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 567

                    #1734
                    Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    God I wish wish wish Vigi had killed Funny this would be easy af.

                    But yeah I think if Xel is in everyone's PoE that's who I'll vote for.
                    I wish the vig had done actually anything this game
                    aka mikey

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                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                    Originally posted by QueenAshy
                    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                    • SubaruPoptart
                      da kyo~
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 736

                      #1735
                      Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                      I'm going back to about page 50 for this, so here we are.
                      for FFA:

                      Here's the earliest reads I could find from him when he transferred in. I'm completely disregarding anything in his slot prior to his transfer as I couldn't really deduce anything from the stuff in there.

                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      1: Funnygurl555-tforce
                      2: SubaruPoptart-town
                      3: storn42-wolf
                      4: mellonxcollie-null
                      5: Charu-mentor (town ig)
                      6: TWGma (T-Force)-funnygurl
                      7: DaBackpack-town
                      8: Shadow_God_10 - Vanilla Town
                      9: XelNya-town
                      10: inDheart flashflash account-town
                      11: Duskfall-town
                      12: the sun fan-wolf
                      13: MixMasterLar-mml

                      quick notes
                      I believe in the tforce funnygurl meme

                      I've ~mostly~ read the entire game, the beginning I had a solid town read on sunfan but didn't like his positioning during the shadowgod lynch, there was a post that pinged me as TMI
                      raeko's alignment depends on sunfan to me
                      duskfall and backpack are my top towns, I like pretty much everyone that was on the shadowgod wagon
                      not sad to see charu gone, even though he was PR it helps my poe a fair bit
                      I'm not gonna focus on his stance on me in my own reads as that's... I don't understand the point in that.

                      Raeko's null, SF is Wolf, storn's wolf, and I'm not sure what TWG's indication is here.
                      Pretty much everyone else is town. I'm keeping this in mind until I find another specific reads list from him.

                      Onto the quotes I feel are important:

                      This one's a bit of a 4-layered one. It starts as such if you open the spoiler.


                      [About FG:]
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      ok you're town
                      [The quote he's referencing:]
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      i don't like this outta duskfall

                      the progression makes sense outta dbp but what was this? but at the same time his vote was also on me which is also wrong

                      it's surprising that he didn't flip onto suspicions he actually mentioned
                      [The quote she's referencing:]

                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      ShadowGod

                      Ok cool someone else did it thanks
                      [The quote that Duskfall's saying that someone else voted for Shadow for:]

                      Originally posted by DaBackpack
                      my legacy is gonna be pretty similar to my last reads list

                      raeko and sunfan could maybe be coupled not sure yet
                      fg is a wildcard in that she could go anywhere, but doesn't fit anywhere yet
                      shadow has a lot of wolf partner options, sunfan, storn, maybe even raeko

                      but people are gonna ignore this so Shadow_Wolf I'm following my heart
                      [There's another quote within Backpack's one:]

                      Originally posted by DaBackpack
                      alright guys it's crunch time, give me your reads lists

                      shadow/storn/???raeko???/???sunfan??? wolves
                      dusk/MML/Xelnya town atm

                      if shadow is wolf, either storn or FG is almost certainly wolf imo


                      So. Backpack's reads were at the time, shadow, storn, raeko, and sunfan were wolves, dusk, MML, and Xel were town. If shadow's wolf, storn and FG are definitely wolves.

                      Shadow didn't turn out to be a wolf and neither did Storn so there goes that, FG's still a wildcard in the next post. He also voted for Shadow in that post, which prompted Dusk to vote for Shadow on top of that. FG didn't like this from Dusk, and that she also didn't really like it from backpack either, considering the previous suspicions he had had.

                      From all this, FFA deduces that FG's town. No real elaboration on this. With that one out of the way, we go onto this one.

                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      Anyways fg is town yeah I agree, scumreads are on good people
                      FFA replied:

                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      not necessarily that I agree with her, but the reads feel pure and coming from a solvey pov
                      We get the elaboration on this one. He claims that the reads are "pure" and that they're comin from a "solvey point of view".

                      Next one:

                      this post from FG was responding to his initial reads list that I posted above
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      hi ffa. didn't like ind's eod so i gotta see more outta you. disagree with a few reads here too. i ain't touching storn
                      In response to this:

                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      if I wasn't a replace 90% I was on shadowgod wagon anyway
                      I liked DBPs callout and felt similarly when I was reading overnight
                      I can't quite find DBP's callout and I... have too many tabs open right now but I'd imagine it's somewhere in there.

                      He'd'a voted for shadowgod, yet he backed up FG as being town when she called out Dusk for sheeping DaBackPack's vote for Shadow. That's somethin that doesn't make sense to me here. I'm assuming the "callout" is in reference to storn as well. FFA put storn as a solid wolf here so there's that.


                      This next one doesn't really have anything to do with anything I just found this highly amusing:

                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      where's xel
                      haven't heard him yellnya in a hot minute
                      Originally posted by XelNya


                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      ...there he is


                      Anyways back to the task at hand.



                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      sunfan: explain reversal on raeko and your wolf read on me (your reasoning's not good enough)

                      dbp: who are you going after today now that you were wrong about shadowgod

                      raeko: why didn't you go after dbp last eod?

                      duskfall: why did you focus on me and sg at eod instead of ind and raeko (who i think were people you pinged last phase)

                      please answer me thx
                      Dusk's answer:
                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      I never voted you as a scum read, I voted you because you were counter wagon to my townread. I then realised there was a good chance of you being town so I wanted to switch off you.

                      At the time I chose Shadowgod because it was pretty last minute and I had little options on who to wagon. Shadowgod seemed fairly safe because I didn't see them making their way out of poe
                      I also couldn't ask this at the time but what's poe

                      Which made FG ask to FFA:
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      hey ffa is duskfall someone to make safe votes
                      FFA responded:
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      hmm
                      his votes were pretty "safe" back in the bulbagarden hydra game
                      for the most part as town I would say his votes tend to be like the vote on MML or you this game

                      guess it could go either way, but safe isn't an adjective I associate with town duskfall
                      he could just be toning it down for FFR as well
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      he actively votes and uses it as a weapon
                      This also doesn't make much sense to me. Considering again, the last part where FFA considered FG town for calling out Dusk for voting Shadow. He's backing up Dusk's response here. I'd imagine there's some other stuff outside of his iso that explains it but I'm working within the iso here.

                      Some pokemon posts past this... more pokemon, and then

                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      FFA who do you want to lynch rn?
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      storn or sunfan
                      fg lives
                      So again, the responses line up with the reads, FG also lives, still lines up.

                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      FFA thoughts on raeko?
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      I didn't like her reaching for backpack
                      gun to head I liked sunfan's read on her
                      but now sunfan has wolf equity and that makes raeko townier by association
                      I don't think I'm going to read raeko this game and rather solve her with poe/associative reads
                      again wtf is poe

                      Since he reads sunfan as a wolf, he's not going to read raeko is my takeaway from this.

                      Originally posted by Duskfall
                      One of sunfan raeko is wolf p sure, I think we should be voting in them
                      Originally posted by flashflash account
                      I feel like everyone's been noticing the weird connection between the two of them
                      I don't know if it's something that ever actually resolves via lynch though
                      Doesn't consider lynching being the solution to sunfan/raeko, yet doesn't seem to deny the possibility of it being a thing.

                      From this, I'm rolling a town.

                      Despite the fact I've played with them before, I can't really remember or deduce their playstyle into my reasoning, yet they've been consistent with their reads and how they consider the roles of the people he's deduced, so that's why I'm rolling town.






                      Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                      Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                      Oh God it's Subaru
                      Originally posted by Deamerai
                      damnit subaru
                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                      Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                      • SubaruPoptart
                        da kyo~
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 736

                        #1736
                        Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                        Water's slowed down so I can do some stuff now.






                        Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                        AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                        Oh God it's Subaru
                        Originally posted by Deamerai
                        damnit subaru
                        Originally posted by FreezinIce
                        You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                        wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                        Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                        • MixMasterLar
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                          #1737
                          Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                          Originally posted by flashflash account
                          yes lol
                          am I the crazy one? Do I actually need to go back and reread?
                          idk what you see other than wagonomics here
                          she's pretty town
                          You are. You do.

                          And it's what I don't see, which is Funny doing the level of commentary that DBP has done.

                          Even now in this situations she's meming TForce again and just insisting that she always wanted DBP dead bit not actually always I mean later-always and it's just, like

                          Ok how about this, what was Funny's top 2 town's and top 2 wolves? Do you even know of she stated that much info clearly without looking? I think she did one reads d2 but it wasn't super commital and it legit left no impression on me.

                          And if you quote it and out doesn't have DBP as scum imma riot hard

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                          • MixMasterLar
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                            • Aug 2006
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                            #1738
                            Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                            POE is Process of Elimination

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                            • flashflash account
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2017
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                              #1739
                              Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                              You are. You do.

                              And it's what I don't see, which is Funny doing the level of commentary that DBP has done.

                              Even now in this situations she's meming TForce again and just insisting that she always wanted DBP dead bit not actually always I mean later-always and it's just, like

                              Ok how about this, what was Funny's top 2 town's and top 2 wolves? Do you even know of she stated that much info clearly without looking? I think she did one reads d2 but it wasn't super commital and it legit left no impression on me.

                              And if you quote it and out doesn't have DBP as scum imma riot hard
                              okay, lemme backpedal a bit
                              the way that I'm reading her is kind of the same as reading backpack atm
                              I found their D2s very comparable
                              for FG, it was specifically her disliking duskfall and the way she was approaching it (even though I think she's totally wrong) that I think a wolf just never thinks of

                              backpack is the same way, sometimes he follows logic trails that I just think a wolf isn't capable of

                              does that make more sense?
                              aka mikey

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                              Originally posted by FreezinIce
                              FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                              Originally posted by QueenAshy
                              I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                              Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                              i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                              Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                              seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                              • flashflash account
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                                #1740
                                Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

                                I will commit to rereading FGs iso from day 2 and see if I don't feel the same way
                                but maybe tomorrow
                                aka mikey

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                                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                                FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                                Originally posted by QueenAshy
                                I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                                i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                                seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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