TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

mml

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

thesunfan

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

I am in favor of mass claim

-Your character name should be kept to yourself. If word gets out about which Sunnyvale Trailer Park inhabitant you are, I'm not being held accountable.

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

My phone died and I’m not sure how long it will be until I can use it again

Not as relevant for this game unless phase is ending today which I don’t think

[Wineandbread]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

I'm gonna park on ffa for the time being

For science

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

So I realized I can't continue to hold a grudge against DBP for withholding too much and not leaving a "suspicions" list or any major summary post of critical info here before he died if I'm in the same boat myself and have not been transparent in thread myself for a fair bit of time.

At this point, there are a few of the world's worst kept secrets floating around, which I think invariably hurts town as the game of telephone continues. With that in mind, I want to lay down my thought process here without damaging said efforts too much.

:herewego:

This game is broken. It has been broken from the moment we discovered full role PMs were shareable out of thread. At this point, I think it's fair to assume that every wolf and anti-town third party has prepared a sufficiently altered role PM in efforts to avoid this, but scrutiny of how roles interact with each other would still make a mass PM claim almost certainly result in a town victory. It is only out of a desire to prevent this game from becoming a boring clusterfuck of mechanical+flavor analyses (...hmmm) that we aren't doing this. That, and some sort of vestigial pride.

With that said, game still seems to be rather heavily townsided. At this stage, it seems to me that a mechanical lynchpool still wins game 99.9% of the time, with that 0.1% only reserved in case of insane roles that have never been heard of and have yet to appear.

As of right now, there are 10 players left in this game, including me. In order to not completely pierce the veil, I won't fully elaborate publicly on most of these placements. If you'd like more info, *please* reach out to me on discord so we can chat a bit.

{Never Lynch}
Hakulyte
Funnygurl555
mellonxcollie

{Townie}
thesunfan
flashflashaccount


{Lynch Pool}
Xelicopter
Wineandbread
Pozzai

{Policy Lynch}
MixMasterLar

MML I think we should definitely lynch today. I don't buy his claimed win condition for a second, and that translates to his alignment. I think what happened was, he didn't realize it was a role madness game when asked to out by DBP, and so claimed VT. That original claim of VT was obviously incongruent with game, and pressure by key players forced him to have to come up with something else. To cover his lie without drawing the lynch, he couldn't claim a town role. This left him with claiming 3p as the only viable option. As there was already a 3p claim with a wincon that did not conflict with town, he had to make his work without seeming too much like the other 3p, resulting in his claim that he simply "has to outlive the protagonists". Without angleshooting, the probability that such a role exists with no supporting killing power or namekilling power is nil.

This all leads me to believe that either one of two things are true:
(A) MML is a third party with either killing or name killing ability (I lean towards namekilling for a lot of reasons having to do with OP and balance of the setup)
or
(B) MML is a wolf who fakeclaimed 3p to try to avoid drawing a lynch out of his claim.

In either case, letting him live another phase would be stupid and potentially could be very harmful.
Please excuse any formatting or grammar errors, I'm at work trying to wrap up this project I've poured seven months of 60-70 hour weeks into, and it's finally coming to a close. Like I said, please please talk to me on discord if you want reasons for placement of anyone other than MML.

[flashflash account]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

pozzai and WaB are the wolves

[Xelicopter]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

So I realized I can't continue to hold a grudge against DBP for withholding too much and not leaving a "suspicions" list or any major summary post of critical info here before he died if I'm in the same boat myself and have not been transparent in thread myself for a fair bit of time.

At this point, there are a few of the world's worst kept secrets floating around, which I think invariably hurts town as the game of telephone continues. With that in mind, I want to lay down my thought process here without damaging said efforts too much.

:herewego:

This game is broken. It has been broken from the moment we discovered full role PMs were shareable out of thread. At this point, I think it's fair to assume that every wolf and anti-town third party has prepared a sufficiently altered role PM in efforts to avoid this, but scrutiny of how roles interact with each other would still make a mass PM claim almost certainly result in a town victory. It is only out of a desire to prevent this game from becoming a boring clusterfuck of mechanical+flavor analyses (...hmmm) that we aren't doing this. That, and some sort of vestigial pride.

With that said, game still seems to be rather heavily townsided. At this stage, it seems to me that a mechanical lynchpool still wins game 99.9% of the time, with that 0.1% only reserved in case of insane roles that have never been heard of and have yet to appear.

As of right now, there are 10 players left in this game, including me. In order to not completely pierce the veil, I won't fully elaborate publicly on most of these placements. If you'd like more info, *please* reach out to me on discord so we can chat a bit.

{Never Lynch}
Hakulyte
Funnygurl555
mellonxcollie

{Townie}
thesunfan
flashflashaccount


{Lynch Pool}
Xelicopter
Wineandbread
Pozzai

{Policy Lynch}
MixMasterLar

MML I think we should definitely lynch today. I don't buy his claimed win condition for a second, and that translates to his alignment. I think what happened was, he didn't realize it was a role madness game when asked to out by DBP, and so claimed VT. That original claim of VT was obviously incongruent with game, and pressure by key players forced him to have to come up with something else. To cover his lie without drawing the lynch, he couldn't claim a town role. This left him with claiming 3p as the only viable option. As there was already a 3p claim with a wincon that did not conflict with town, he had to make his work without seeming too much like the other 3p, resulting in his claim that he simply "has to outlive the protagonists". Without angleshooting, the probability that such a role exists with no supporting killing power or namekilling power is nil.

This all leads me to believe that either one of two things are true:
(A) MML is a third party with either killing or name killing ability (I lean towards namekilling for a lot of reasons having to do with OP and balance of the setup)
or
(B) MML is a wolf who fakeclaimed 3p to try to avoid drawing a lynch out of his claim.

In either case, letting him live another phase would be stupid and potentially could be very harmful.
Please excuse any formatting or grammar errors, I'm at work trying to wrap up this project I've poured seven months of 60-70 hour weeks into, and it's finally coming to a close. Like I said, please please talk to me on discord if you want reasons for placement of anyone other than MML.

I'M GONNA MAKE THIS EASY ON YOU WOLF.

I'M NOT GETTING LYNCHED, EVER.

/WHIRRRRRRL

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

lar if I'm not around later

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

How I'm approaching this EoD

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

Legit my vote is literally whatever Haku tells me to vote.

Might as well quote that because I don't see myself ever typing that sentence again

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

Legit my vote is literally whatever Haku tells me to vote.

Might as well quote that because I don't see myself ever typing that sentence again

done

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

I'M GONNA MAKE THIS EASY ON YOU WOLF.

I'M NOT GETTING LYNCHED, EVER.

/WHIRRRRRRL

We lynch this guy. -shrugs-

[Xelicopter]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

We lynch this guy. -shrugs-

DO IT, YOU WON'T.

/WHIRRRRRRL

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXXXIV: Sunnyvale's Finest Game Thread

Can you get in discord ?