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  • Charu
    Snivy! Dohoho!
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 6206

    #7396
    Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

    Originally posted by Celirra
    I wouldn't consider shooting backpack like that unsmart and uncalculated though tbh

    Its arguably the best time to use a dayvigi I'd say
    I could see a lot more application for the day shot the wolves had to be used elsewhere. Using it on, as far as we knew, a normal innocent child seems like a waste for wolves.

    If you mean it was just for town to do something stupid, (because Freezin and TWGma did shoot Haku afterwards), then okay. But that's wolves gambling which may or may not have work.


    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
    Had a very shiny nose
    And if you ever saw it
    You could even say it glows

    All of the other Snivies
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Charu
    Join in any Snivy games

    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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    • Daikyi
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2013
      • 10

      #7397
      Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

      Originally posted by Xiz
      Okay lets be real you are the one here trying to grasp at straws to make an argument on me here.

      But, i'll bite. What else don't you like about me? Any of my specific reads, or progressions, or specific reactions on people? Can you talk to me about that? Because I refuse to just have this as your main read on me.
      hello, is this OMGUS speaking?

      My statement said that you were using not knowing information, such as funnygurl being town or whatever, as fodder for establishing your towniness, which for one, doesn't really make any sense, two, you haven't addressed any of that and deflected to other questions, and three, hints that you really have no reasons to defend yourself.

      I can't talk to you about any progressions or whatever that you've had this game because you've had none, bar today. Your entire reasoning for your wolfteam seems to revolve around people calling alarm to your EoD yesterday, which was completely valid, considering that you were offering up absolutely nothing of value. I believe your reasoning for spamming the thread with song lyrics was because "it was the song that came to mind".

      I'd want to dialogue with you more if it like, felt like you were actually trying to solve the game right now, but as it stands, most of your actions point to a xiz that doesn't actually care about gamestate, and is more concerned with being pretty unhelpful to town. Most of your posts today were pretty Xiz centric, which, while isn't out of the ordinary, i do that all the fuccen time, but when the conversation here has revolved around specific things such as charu on roundbox, and other stuff, and you're choosing to not offer stuff about that, especially considering that you have roundbox as your top wolf if i'm not mistaken, it doesn't seem right.

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      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6206

        #7398
        Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

        Originally posted by Xiz
        If you are tying this in to blind randomly shooting roundbox, I don't see that connection at all.

        I see blind shooting there as super towny.
        Was there any thought and reason to ignore town consensus and shoot roundbox?


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • Daikyi
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2013
          • 10

          #7399
          Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

          Originally posted by Charu
          If you think it's nothing, then fine. Doesn't change what I think though.
          :thumbsup: I still think you need to step back and do some mental-space evaluation and put yourself in other people's shoes because yeah, i think it's nothing

          Originally posted by Charu
          It's possible, fits with blind shooting roundbox all rougelike. That begs the question whether or not a wolf blind would even do such a thing though.

          He's got the guts to do such an action, but would he actually do it as a wolf is the question.
          i think d1/2 ITAs are legit and i don't think a wolf shoots a wolf in that scenario.

          d3 ITAs is different, everyone shot prec except for blind, which imo is the big red flag there at least (gonna look up d1 itas as well)

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          • Charu
            Snivy! Dohoho!
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 6206

            #7400
            Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

            Originally posted by Xiz
            Charu if you were the only one who thought X was a wolf like 99% or something, and everyone else was going after Y who you really think was town and had a shot would you or would you not shoot X in an ITA like that?
            I don't understand this question?

            If you'r asking what I would do as a wolf in this situation without any counseling from my wolf buddies and that I MUST shoot during the ITA's, then I'd shoot backpack if I knew his targets were shit to draw suspicions on the players that he listed so they would be shaded for a long while.

            ...Y'know what, I guess there is an application for a day shot on backpack during ITA's...


            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
            Had a very shiny nose
            And if you ever saw it
            You could even say it glows

            All of the other Snivies
            Used to laugh and call him names
            They never let poor Charu
            Join in any Snivy games

            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


            Originally posted by Vendetta21
            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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            • Celirra
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2015
              • 749

              #7401
              Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

              Originally posted by Xiz
              If you are tying this in to blind randomly shooting roundbox, I don't see that connection at all.

              I see blind shooting there as super towny.
              I dont see blind shooting a potential town when theres a way to resolve for a guaranteed wolf as towny at all lol
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              • Xiz
                TWG Chaos
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2012
                • 3399

                #7402
                Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                Originally posted by Daikyi
                hello, is this OMGUS speaking?
                No this is Patrick.


                Originally posted by Daikyi
                My statement said that you were using not knowing information, such as funnygurl being town or whatever, as fodder for establishing your towniness, which for one, doesn't really make any sense, two, you haven't addressed any of that and deflected to other questions, and three, hints that you really have no reasons to defend yourself.

                I can't talk to you about any progressions or whatever that you've had this game because you've had none, bar today. Your entire reasoning for your wolfteam seems to revolve around people calling alarm to your EoD yesterday, which was completely valid, considering that you were offering up absolutely nothing of value. I believe your reasoning for spamming the thread with song lyrics was because "it was the song that came to mind".

                I'd want to dialogue with you more if it like, felt like you were actually trying to solve the game right now, but as it stands, most of your actions point to a xiz that doesn't actually care about gamestate, and is more concerned with being pretty unhelpful to town. Most of your posts today were pretty Xiz centric, which, while isn't out of the ordinary, i do that all the fuccen time, but when the conversation here has revolved around specific things such as charu on roundbox, and other stuff, and you're choosing to not offer stuff about that, especially considering that you have roundbox as your top wolf if i'm not mistaken, it doesn't seem right.
                Please tell me what questions I have not addressed and I will address them. If you are talking about Freezin and Tforce and whoever else suddenly getting on my case after my reads list I took a step back and wondered why my opinions were getting such strong reactions like that.

                In regards to progressions, noting of value is subjective. And no, my entire reads list does not revolve around the EOD. If it did you would be a wolf to me. As I stated before, Xel/Roundbox are my top two, I'm still trying to figure out who the 3rd is. I've been going back and forth on Freezin. I truly think he is town here but the more he says he is confirmed when he is not the more i get suspicious. Regardless he is not someone I think is wise to look into today because there are more important people to sort out imo. Charu could be a wolf here, but if he is it's solely based on votes / lack of votes at EOD. I don't want to see him dead today though.

                And what are you talking about?? How are my posts about roundbox not progressing the game? I am offering stuff?? (As roundbox says, UM HELLO?)

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                • Daikyi
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 10

                  #7403
                  Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                  jessie -> wc (killed)
                  haku -> xiz
                  ffa -> haku
                  *dbp dies*
                  twgma -> haku
                  daikyi ->haku (killed)
                  blind -> ffa
                  freezin -> jessie
                  cel -> jessie
                  prec -> jessie
                  charu -> ffa
                  -------------
                  fg -> tokzic

                  first day ita sessions, fg->tokzic was in d1 part 2

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                  • Daikyi
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 10

                    #7404
                    Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                    i want to verify with everyone else, because i'm increasingly wary of rose-tinted glasses, but everything that xiz has been saying felt like nothing. Like, i read every word of his post, but like, retained almost no meaning from any of it

                    also given how active xiz has been this phase, trying to actually pin a read on freezin feels like he's actually trying to play up a dumbtell here

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                    • Xiz
                      TWG Chaos
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3399

                      #7405
                      Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                      Originally posted by Charu
                      I don't understand this question?

                      If you'r asking what I would do as a wolf in this situation without any counseling from my wolf buddies and that I MUST shoot during the ITA's, then I'd shoot backpack if I knew his targets were shit to draw suspicions on the players that he listed so they would be shaded for a long while.

                      ...Y'know what, I guess there is an application for a day shot on backpack during ITA's...
                      No no,

                      If you were town, and were confident that the person getting ITA'd was town, and knew almost certainly there was a wolf sitting on the sidelines potentially helping the misshoot, would you shoot them?

                      It was a rhetorical question, I don't expect you to answer.

                      This goes back to my initial thoughts on DBP. Yes, he is confirmed. Yes, people should listen. But just because you are confirmed doesn't make you right. The more and more people blindly follow a confirmed makes it easier for wolves to hide or shift blame.

                      What im saying is, what blind did was shoot someone who he believes (as do I) is a wolf. That shot did not impact the lynch between freezin/precarious.

                      It's a high risk high reward play which I believe a town would do way more then a wolf. Yes cel, I see your point how a wolf blind could do that but I disagree strongly.

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                      • Xiz
                        TWG Chaos
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 3399

                        #7406
                        Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                        Originally posted by Daikyi
                        i want to verify with everyone else, because i'm increasingly wary of rose-tinted glasses, but everything that xiz has been saying felt like nothing. Like, i read every word of his post, but like, retained almost no meaning from any of it

                        also given how active xiz has been this phase, trying to actually pin a read on freezin feels like he's actually trying to play up a dumbtell here
                        I'm literally asking you to tell me what posts I have been ignoring. Saying "lol xiz is doing nothing" doesn't help progress the game. Stop saying "yeah im not town" and if you really think im a wolf then let me prove to you how wrong you are.

                        Don't ignore my request, please link or tell me posts I have ignored so I can answer them.

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                        • Daikyi
                          FFR Player
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 10

                          #7407
                          Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                          looking back at d1 itas i actually feel really good about leaving jessie be right now

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                          • Daikyi
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 10

                            #7408
                            Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            I'm literally asking you to tell me what posts I have been ignoring. Saying "lol xiz is doing nothing" doesn't help progress the game. Stop saying "yeah im not town" and if you really think im a wolf then let me prove to you how wrong you are.

                            Don't ignore my request, please link or tell me posts I have ignored so I can answer them.
                            i'll continue to ignore your reqeust, because literally in the first sentence i give you the thing i'm talking about.

                            My statement said that you were using not knowing information, such as funnygurl being town or whatever, as fodder for establishing your towniness, which for one, doesn't really make any sense, two, you haven't addressed any of that and deflected to other questions, and three, hints that you really have no reasons to defend yourself.
                            I'm pretty sure xiz isn't making any effort to process thread properly here tbh

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                            • Charu
                              Snivy! Dohoho!
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 6206

                              #7409
                              Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                              Originally posted by Daikyi
                              i want to verify with everyone else, because i'm increasingly wary of rose-tinted glasses, but everything that xiz has been saying felt like nothing. Like, i read every word of his post, but like, retained almost no meaning from any of it

                              also given how active xiz has been this phase, trying to actually pin a read on freezin feels like he's actually trying to play up a dumbtell here
                              I mean, he's saying that freezin has potential to be a wolf.

                              That's like... in this current state of the game, a 0.01% chance of happening. Do recall that freezin quoted a post from Precarious showcasing Precarious blocked him for one of the nights with his role.

                              I mean if he wants to try and tackle that 0.01%, then I say let 'em have it. I won't agree with it of course since it relies on wolves wasting a roleblock in a role heavy game.


                              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                              Had a very shiny nose
                              And if you ever saw it
                              You could even say it glows

                              All of the other Snivies
                              Used to laugh and call him names
                              They never let poor Charu
                              Join in any Snivy games

                              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                              • Xiz
                                TWG Chaos
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 3399

                                #7410
                                Re: TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

                                I was reffering to the words OTHER QUESTIONS. You said 's' plural. Give me more than one.

                                But to put your mind at ease, I'll say this yet again. I truly didn't know. It was a mistake. I'm not trying to cover it up, or shift away attention from it. I simply didn't know. I agree, I should not be town read for my mistake, it's my fault. But I really shouldn't be scum read for it either, but that's not up to me. It is what it is. If you are solely scum reading me for that, that is a mistake, and very opportunistic for people who I think actually ARE wolves to join in and piggy back on that thought.

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