TWG CLXXIX: The Third FE Mystery Game Game Thread

[LightManticorex2]

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Vote Marisa if you're still in the game!!! let's get coordinated from the start this time

I'm gonna vote Marissa because she's the best looking one there.

[Charu]

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I have no interest in this game currently

I kinda suck

At least you're posting a little and not at all!

[LightManticorex2]

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At least you're posting a little and not at all!

looks at total posts: 676
Looks at my posts: 4(?)

I'm going to just make that 5 post minimum rule. Go me!

[Charu]

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Alright, for real now.

Night~

[Tokzic]

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Anyway, when it comes to the event;

I plan to vote Eirika.
You should all vote Eirika too hopefully.
We will keep voting Eirika.
Eirika should eventually win.
Someone will get a prize most likely in that voting pool.
Town > Wolves in numbers.

Correct me if wrong/got something better.
I know there's no strats in private chat etc. so, there could be room to play this differently.

The first time I read this I thought "lol haku trying to minmax the waifu contest" but something about this stuck out to me and on reread I don't like the way this situation played out.

Why would that sound like a lie to you ?

btw, should we just all vote the same waifu ?

Haku's knee-trigger response to the waifu contest announcement is, "Should we all vote for the same waifu?" He then puts out the list of waifus, and less than an hour after announcement, tries to push us all to voting Eirika.

The wolves naturally have an advantage in this contest in both their numbers and the fact that they know each other's identities. But they specifically aren't allowed to talk in private about the contest. They have to do it in public. How do you get your team wolf team to pile votes onto your target? You tell them quickly who the group target is and act like you're talking to town. The "correct me if I'm wrong..." part even kind of gives an air of non-finality to it, which would maybe get town to disperse their votes and concentrate the wolf pool in future?

Another thing I noticed during my waifu research was that the characters in the contest are all within the Sacred Stones. It's a very real possibility the waifus are players in the game. And if that's the case, there's good motive for the wolves to get their waifu the win.

I don't think Haku's response to the contest is towny. I think there was a little too much initiative going on there and it smells bad to me.

[Daikyi]

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Cool but you actually already made reference to my comments being braindead in this very game before I ever addressed you so I hope you won't allow yourself to get triggered by me already expecting that was where this was heading.

that was a badly placed joke i think, sorry

See though.....the opposite point have a preeeeeeeety low point of merit is and is mostly based on theorycrafting. I get why you are pissed with him. Hell I'm kind of pissed at him. Not really why I voted you though.

I believe the opposite, the points that i brought up regarding setup valuing a lower amount of participants in the sudden death round imo are legitimate, because as stated, the game could have just been the sudden death round if it were meant to be gamed in such a way that every player could make it there. I personally believe that there is significance in lowering the amount of people in the sudden death round, rather than having everyone in. I'm not really pissed at him, i'm moreso irked by his absoluteness about how everything outside his viewpoint is wrong.

So would you have agreed with him a little more if he worded it "Does not have as much merit as...." or "I feel that the chances skew in favor of my idea...." or some variation thereof?

i would have definitely not argued as much, because there's concession points. Again, whenever someone's dealing in such harsh absolutes, it's really hard to believe that they're coming from a genuine mindset of wanting the best in the current situation.

You're not bringing up valid points you are relying on theories and making a deal out of no private chats, which is not that big of a deal for reasons stated. I get there may be rules that come up that would change what ws the best course but yo you work with what you got and I really do respect your play more then this. I really do believe you are being a little lazy here and normally would agree a little more with Adam on this (Or rather, his point. Adam's acting kind of like a jackass here and I get you don't really like the idea of backing him as a player)

I understand that we do have to work with what we have - however, i'm trying to avoid the assumption that the sudden death round is going to work exactly like the voting rounds. Another belief that I have is that the SD round has its rules very hidden for a reason.

You brought it up time and time again, as if it was such a powerful point it should just end the debate. I don't think I read to deeply into it at all the way you presented it tbh.

I believe i said earlier that i felt like i was talking to a brick wall then, It's really hard to even dialogue with someone when they're refusing to concede any points - i've said it multiple times, but there's too clear of a strange agenda going on with everything about it. From the way he came into thread like "Everyone vote for Awhatever", which phrasing-wise looked horribly sus, and lead to everything afterwards

Opposite of Town*. Sentance not worded correct and makes zero sense. I am saying that I see Adam's suggestion as pro town and I do not understand why you would be normally opposed to it as hard as you are here.

Part of it is that i was fishing around for some responses, part of it is because i have a gut belief that sunfan was 100% ready for people to try and game the events, especially after public chat got turned on. Partly because it felt *really good* when adam's choice didn't win. Also, as a complete aside, we have no way of knowing whether or not adam even voted for that apparantly.

I could see TownYoshL not seeing the merit to go out of his way and meme vote his favorite girl, but not fighting about it to this extent. I get that Adam gets under your skin but I am honestly going to join the side of your points being to weak to think good of. I am honest to God not trying to say "lol braindead fight me irl" or some shit; I'm not trying to trigger you, but yo that be some weak logic and you should know better. A year off does not excuse this.

Vote stands.

I do think you should take more time to continue actually talking with people before you instantly dismiss things as weak logic. Also, not to mention that i had like instavoted Tana LMAO

[Tokzic]

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in retrospect i wish i voted ic waifu pick, that was definitely the play

[MixMasterLar]

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I have mostly concerns about the big post
:There's no cohesion moving from reply to reply. Not only that, the quotes get to be less and less game-relevant and hard-hitting as you move from top to bottom, like he was able to summon up less and less interest

Def made sure the important stuff was near the top, save for the vote on YoshL which I decided to keep since I ended up not wanting to cut his post. Post was not written as linear as you may think since I actually do have a laptop right now and can actually do that.

:He never talks about celirra, for all his mentions of the voting stuff, and specifically my involvement, which (between my and charu's input) he had more words for than anything else. How is that possible?

I'm shit at reading him. Why I'm more or less gonna sheep Blind on him for d0.

You can totally call me weaksauce for that I guess. Cel will get easier to read later.

:The post he ends up voting in reply to isn't even that bad on an alignment-relevant level. (Only because of the next point I'll point out that) the post he's replying to is thoughtless swill, and he takes a super formal, stiff tone in his commentary leading up to his vote. In every other reply he either uses cutesy language or personal flair - I checked. Hard for me to get past

So no love for me being in before braindead?
But no for real what the fuck are you on about? I explained my vote the way anyone should explain a serious vote.

:He speaks weirdly to Hakulyte, whom I'm having a hard time seeing as a villager for a reason I'll explain further next post. It's questions without questioning, it's concern without action or conclusion. Bugs me hugely. FWIW haku's post he was replying to read mildly not W/W to me, which has left me doing a couple of actual, factual head scratches

How is this weird? I'm calling him out for being a hypocrite there, but the way I do it is weird? You'l have to explain that one good sir.

:His disclosure of "yo my internet might be fucked I'll be around while I can" sounds way more "can I please get credit for posting in hard conditions" than most.

It died out for like 5 minute-chunks of times like 4 times because I am sitting far away from my friend's router, so I'm not gonna to pretend I might be able to actually chat when I may not. Had I not copied that big post it would have been eaten for real.

FWIW @MML, it's appreciated and respected that you are here under questionable conditions. I just think you presented it in a suspicious way

Speaking of wording shit weird

Yeah, this is also pretty clearly an edited line:
"It's also noteworthy that he's taking a stance that to me seems the most Town-serving option we have ever had the opportunity to preform d0."
I think from context he must have meant "..a stance that to me seems [contrary to/against]..."
More reason against

You seem to have a problem with people proofreading their posts.
I'll admit that in restructuring the line it from the fucking horribe run on sentance that last paragraph was I botched t hardcore but within context you should be able to figure it out. Or ask about it like YoshL did.

Post 649. No complaints with MML! He's posting hard and playing seriously. Big fan

Fucking

Really now

[Tokzic]

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hear me out

I think with this massive amount of players in this game, we should go without the pretense of having everyone reading every post

because let's be real, this thread will be insane by the end of the day

this is the only post on this page i read

[Adam33]

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The first time I read this I thought "lol haku trying to minmax the waifu contest" but something about this stuck out to me and on reread I don't like the way this situation played out.



Haku's knee-trigger response to the waifu contest announcement is, "Should we all vote for the same waifu?" He then puts out the list of waifus, and less than an hour after announcement, tries to push us all to voting Eirika.

The wolves naturally have an advantage in this contest in both their numbers and the fact that they know each other's identities. But they specifically aren't allowed to talk in private about the contest. They have to do it in public. How do you get your team wolf team to pile votes onto your target? You tell them quickly who the group target is and act like you're talking to town. The "correct me if I'm wrong..." part even kind of gives an air of non-finality to it, which would maybe get town to disperse their votes and concentrate the wolf pool in future?

Another thing I noticed during my waifu research was that the characters in the contest are all within the Sacred Stones. It's a very real possibility the waifus are players in the game. And if that's the case, there's good motive for the wolves to get their waifu the win.

I don't think Haku's response to the contest is towny. I think there was a little too much initiative going on there and it smells bad to me.

yessss......

[Adam33]

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Fucking

Really now

You should reread this please. It's not sarcasm or backhanded anything

[Hakulyte]

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The first time I read this I thought "lol haku trying to minmax the waifu contest" but something about this stuck out to me and on reread I don't like the way this situation played out.



Haku's knee-trigger response to the waifu contest announcement is, "Should we all vote for the same waifu?" He then puts out the list of waifus, and less than an hour after announcement, tries to push us all to voting Eirika.

The wolves naturally have an advantage in this contest in both their numbers and the fact that they know each other's identities. But they specifically aren't allowed to talk in private about the contest. They have to do it in public. How do you get your team wolf team to pile votes onto your target? You tell them quickly who the group target is and act like you're talking to town. The "correct me if I'm wrong..." part even kind of gives an air of non-finality to it, which would maybe get town to disperse their votes and concentrate the wolf pool in future?

Another thing I noticed during my waifu research was that the characters in the contest are all within the Sacred Stones. It's a very real possibility the waifus are players in the game. And if that's the case, there's good motive for the wolves to get their waifu the win.

I don't think Haku's response to the contest is towny. I think there was a little too much initiative going on there and it smells bad to me.

Yeah, that's something that started coming in mind as well for me as the phase progressed a few pages later.

I just saw that waifu contest and wanted to do something about it even if I'm not listened to.

I don't really a rebuttal to this because my posts have been more reactive than anything else so far.

Note that I'm cool with adapting to whatever others want. I don't have a particular reason to want "Eirika" over anyone else in the waifus.

[MixMasterLar]

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Alright the MML post is exactly what I wanted to see. More focus on what he's come to care about most in his retelling of the game from his POV. I'm off the suspicion

No seriously what the actual flying fuck is this shit?

I think my vote is still on sprucegrit. I feel like wolves objective at this stage of the game would be to hurry and find a PR. Therefore stuff has to happen to create the opportunity to create this scenario.

I disagree so hard with this assumption it hurts me.
You realize as the game goes on and people get into the shop he'll be found out pretty easily right? If he's lying, it's only a matter of time before he gets caught.

Haku's knee-trigger response to the waifu contest announcement is, "Should we all vote for the same waifu?" He then puts out the list of waifus, and less than an hour after announcement, tries to push us all to voting Eirika.

The wolves naturally have an advantage in this contest in both their numbers and the fact that they know each other's identities. But they specifically aren't allowed to talk in private about the contest. They have to do it in public. How do you get your team wolf team to pile votes onto your target? You tell them quickly who the group target is and act like you're talking to town. The "correct me if I'm wrong..." part even kind of gives an air of non-finality to it, which would maybe get town to disperse their votes and concentrate the wolf pool in future?

Bold = Wrong. So, so fucking wrong.

You realize that if Haku is a wolf here and that was his plan, he has to bank on all of town not doing what he suggested because if they did, their
numbers would make whatever the fuck the wolves did mute. Like seriously, if everyone did it we know town had more votes on said waifu because there are more town

i would have definitely not argued as much, because there's concession points. Again, whenever someone's dealing in such harsh absolutes, it's really hard to believe that they're coming from a genuine mindset of wanting the best in the current situation.

I disagree with this; I've seen more town be stubborn then wolves in my games.

I understand that we do have to work with what we have - however, i'm trying to avoid the assumption that the sudden death round is going to work exactly like the voting rounds. Another belief that I have is that the SD round has its rules very hidden for a reason.

I agree with that theory, but I don't think it really matters all that much. In this case, I think I'm with Charu when he says that people are overthinking the set up.

Part of it is that i was fishing around for some responses, part of it is because i have a gut belief that sunfan was 100% ready for people to try and game the events, especially after public chat got turned on. Partly because it felt *really good* when adam's choice didn't win. Also, as a complete aside, we have no way of knowing whether or not adam even voted for that apparantly.

Sunfan bit is fair'nuff, but I dont think he would fuck us that bad. That's super gut feeling though. /angleshooting

I do think you should take more time to continue actually talking with people before you instantly dismiss things as weak logic. Also, not to mention that i had like instavoted Tana LMAO

You can only think so much on matters that are literally guesses and non-points my dude.

this is the only post on this page i read

Tokzic you're a bad player and you should feel bad

[Adam33]

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1 - Def made sure the important stuff was near the top, save for the vote on YoshL which I decided to keep since I ended up not wanting to cut his post. Post was not written as linear as you may think since I actually do have a laptop right now and can actually do that.



2 - I'm shit at reading him. Why I'm more or less gonna sheep Blind on him for d0.

3 - You can totally call me weaksauce for that I guess. Cel will get easier to read later.



4 - So no love for me being in before braindead?
But no for real what the fuck are you on about? I explained my vote the way anyone should explain a serious vote.


5 - How is this weird? I'm calling him out for being a hypocrite there, but the way I do it is weird? You'l have to explain that one good sir.



6 - It died out for like 5 minute-chunks of times like 4 times because I am sitting far away from my friend's router, so I'm not gonna to pretend I might be able to actually chat when I may not. Had I not copied that big post it would have been eaten for real.


7 - Speaking of wording shit weird



8 - You seem to have a problem with people proofreading their posts.
I'll admit that in restructuring the line it from the fucking horribe run on sentance that last paragraph was I botched t hardcore but within context you should be able to figure it out. Or ask about it like YoshL did.

Reverse order to spare myself some scrolling
8 - nope, just that mafia have more reason to edit their posts and more difficulty phrasing their votes on town. i did figure it out. i explained what you meant in the very post you replied to
7 - yeah idk how to communicate that i really appreciate people going out of their way to play the game even when it's inconvenient in the same line i'm calling them suspicious for something related to it, so i just use my most natural tone and hope it gets across sincerely
6 - all good. again, no purely grateful you're going to these efforts. i just thought and think the wording is suspicious
5 - the way i explained. you seemed content to ask hakulyte a question that looked like it would lead to suspicion or shade throwing, but you ended the reply on a pretty muted note. it looks like "you think THAT? i don't get it - what's the point of THAT? i really don't think this makes sense. but i guess i'll move on" to me
4 - fair enough, honestly, though it comes after the vote, and it being spaced out differently makes it sound like it was tacked on as an afterthought
3 - oops 2 and 3 are part of one thing
2 - it was very notably missing. if i were to give you a detailed analysis of the girls in the contest, and i only talked about four of them, you would be confused, too
1 - i assumed multiquote now, press reply later, don't rearrange anything. which i still think is accurate? not sure what to make out of the rest of 1, but i don't think you needed to hear much more of a reply than this

[Tokzic]

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is this the worst post ever made in the history of werewolf????

lmfao