TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

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  • thesunfan
    Role Tide
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    • May 2011
    • 10859

    #1396
    Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

    fuck dude
    this kind of feels like Ace Attorney where Yoshl and I had a big shitshow
    maybe you were right Charu
    maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

    this'll probably make me pace back and forth some later tonight
    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
    Originally posted by XelNya
    I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
    Originally posted by star-crossed
    (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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    • AragakiAyase
      Waifus
      • Apr 2015
      • 961

      #1397
      Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by thesunfan
      I hope emotion, but I guess its my fault for dragging it out of you

      maybe I'm the worst player in the world but I tend to always read it as town

      I know you know that but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
      know what?

      pikakirby123 reincarnated





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      • thesunfan
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        • May 2011
        • 10859

        #1398
        Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by AragakiAyase
        know what?
        that I almost always read largescale displays of emotion (usually frustration) as town
        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
        Originally posted by XelNya
        I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
        Originally posted by star-crossed
        (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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        • AragakiAyase
          Waifus
          • Apr 2015
          • 961

          #1399
          Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by thesunfan
          that I almost always read largescale displays of emotion (usually frustration) as town
          I didn't know that because imo emotions can be faked but w/e

          I realized I have a pretty good reason for thinking roundbox is town but let me go build my case

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          • AragakiAyase
            Waifus
            • Apr 2015
            • 961

            #1400
            Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

            I showered and my head has cooled a little

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            • AragakiAyase
              Waifus
              • Apr 2015
              • 961

              #1401
              Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

              warning: this town read on roundbox is incredibly selfish and solely based on how he is reading me this game

              there are other things that he's done like the reaction to cedo voting me that I thought were towny but there have also been weird things which have left me with him at null until now

              let me first start off by saying that I think I'm a very easy player to pocket. a lot of my reads have at least some basis on how people are reading me. I've actually found a bunch of wolves who were pushing on me and trying to twist my words so I tend to inherently think people who are scumreading me are scummy, at least initially. conversely, I tend to feel better about people who are townreading me.

              in the game where DBP won as SK (me, rzr, roundbox, DBP final 4), roundbox was the last wolf. He pocketed me that game hard (roundbox why ). I was playing well in terms of getting townread and he hopped on that townread wagon, mixing it in with the rest of his reads (and the progression felt pretty natural too so props for that).

              compare this to the freeze wars game (where I was wolf lol). Yes, small sample size, but given how I am as a player I think this is a decent read. In that game at some point I questioned him saying something along the lines of "how do I know you're town, I'm not really sold on you". His response was something like "I pocketed you really hard in that freeze wars game and I actually scumread you initially that time". I looked back and that was true.

              Now in this game I feel like he's interacting with me with that same town perspective. He starts off with this post about me saying I look a bit scummy for naming him in relation to the n0 kill.

              Originally posted by roundbox
              The whole interaction between AA and sunfan was started by AA saying "roundbox doesn't make that kill here". If anything, AA gets shittier looking here for tossing my name into the mix.
              however, he admits it's not a hard scumread of any sorts in the next post or something when I responded to it.

              Originally posted by roundbox
              only because it's a very, very weak and flimsy piece of evidence
              fwiw this does not put me even close to scumreading you for a big reason people still have yet to figure out this phase: WE STILL HAVE OVER 24 HOURS IN THE PHASE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE POSTS. I don't think there's anybody that has posted enough or had enough thread exposure for me to read them properly.
              the next post where he brings me up is him being extremely wary of me because of potential pocket

              Originally posted by roundbox
              He has the same reasons for not lynching me as you do, so I guess I can appreciate that. If you're suggesting it's a pocket, he's been pocketing me since his first post about the kill not being me. I am very well aware of what AA is capable of achieving as a wolf so I'm not going to put any town status on him as of yet.

              for the record: we should strongly consider posting where we're sleepwalking to tonight in addition to future nights.
              this falls more in line with his town play, at the time I thought I was doing alright so I would have bought a townread from him super easily and thought "wow, thanks for reading me correctly", but he's being cautious here and I like that.

              this read then progresses to not wanting to lynch me due to WIM which I said earlier I can appreciate and seems pretty natural

              Originally posted by roundbox
              I'm not comfortable with an AA lynch quite yet. His WIM for hunting day 0 makes me feel good. I might be biased because I'm not the greatest at d0 reads, but he doesn't really have a fixed agenda or target. He doesn't look like he's blowing stuff out of proportion for tunneling purposes, so that's pretty cool too.
              I also liked this next post but that's probably because I was feeling the pressure and feeling like people were misunderstanding/misreading me at this point

              Originally posted by roundbox
              I see posts pointing out AAs defensiveness but he's hunting as well instead of just responding solely to pings
              because I was hunting but *certain* people were definitely ignoring it

              oh that's actually the end of his posts on me but I think you see my point, it might be a bad read but this is something I'm feeling pretty good about


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              • AragakiAyase
                Waifus
                • Apr 2015
                • 961

                #1402
                Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                add that to reaction to cedo voting, holding his vote, and strong tone difference between this game and last game

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                • AragakiAyase
                  Waifus
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 961

                  #1403
                  Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                  and now that I've revealed a big part of how my scumreads and townreads are generated initially I have to change that

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                  • thesunfan
                    Role Tide
                    Sectional Moderator
                    • May 2011
                    • 10859

                    #1404
                    Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                    Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                    add that to reaction to cedo voting, holding his vote, and strong tone difference between this game and last game
                    this is the unselfish part of the read, and the towniest thing he's done this game, at least that I've seen

                    (I'm talking about his reasoning for not voting either wagon at EOD yesterday)
                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                    Originally posted by star-crossed
                    (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                    • gold stinger
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                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6428

                      #1405
                      Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                      Man this game has gotten depressing. Botchi still hasn't posted anything really, same with cedolad, and there's a lack of talk from just about everyone including me (except for sunfan & AA, that shit is still flying).
                      Originally posted by YoshL
                      butts.


                      - Tosh 2014






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                      • gold stinger
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6428

                        #1406
                        Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        that wasn't all at you, storn, that was at charu and gs as well
                        Regarding the visitor system, I've tangoed with it, I did the math on it that you never showed, and lost on it. My only possible concern with it was that you could be manipulating it (which was me being disgruntled when I was suggesting issues near EOD) but you addressed that in saying that people can pick where they can go, which flew over my head because it was EOD, so I've got no quarrels with it.
                        Originally posted by YoshL
                        butts.


                        - Tosh 2014






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                        • gold stinger
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                          #1407
                          Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                          Originally posted by XelNya
                          I can but I'd rather let more of the day play out first.

                          I see this greg / AA interaction and I wanna see it play out more
                          There's like 10 pages of nothing but AA/sunfan interaction you have 0 reasons to not post.
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          butts.


                          - Tosh 2014






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                          • gold stinger
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #1408
                            Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                            Here's a vote on Botchi until he posts.

                            I'd vote on AA but I would feel like trash for doing so because the last 10 or more pages of AA/sunfan stuff feels like actual T/T stuff, and it's playing with my instinctive gut vote that I would otherwise have on AA.

                            I'd vote on Charu but the only reason I have to be upset at him right now is that he still thinks going after roundbox is a good idea which I dislike, but I don't see that happening unless there's a random lynch train for it. He hasn't said anything else that looks or feels glaringly scummy to me.

                            I'd vote on sunfan but there's a lot of stuff in his reads list that I also agree with for similar reasons (except for his botchi and Xelnya reads. Xel drives a good point in not townreading someone so early. And if you look at other reasons besides 2 of his posts, there's goddamn nothing, and it's only getting worse fmpov) and it gives me hope that he's for realsies.

                            You know what, sunfan was right. If this was a sunfan/Charu/RB game, town is royally fucked.
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            butts.


                            - Tosh 2014






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                            • botchi246
                              Keepin it Real since '05
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 608

                              #1409
                              Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by storn42
                              I had a thought... and it's a thought that none of you Will
                              Agree with and one we should be talking about, but what if sunfan is a woof... like he is guiding town in where everyone should be going at night, and if he wanted to, could tell the right people to go to his partners and bang! We lose a lot of town members instantly...

                              Honestly the thing that's making me feel off about sunfan is that I reminded him about how he always reads me wrong, and he was like "you're right I always am wrong!!" And continues to act as if he forgot all about that. It honestly should be a real concern for him since he is more often wrong about me than not and it's almost as of healing doesn't care about if he is wrong.
                              I was reading sunfan wolfy early in the game. For right now, and the good losting hes done i want to move him to a scumlean and not a definite scum. Even though AA has been playing big time i still plan on lynching him tonight.
                              I like gold stinger as a strong town.
                              Storn is tough for me. I see what sunfan is saying but idk if i can follow that reasoning.
                              Charu is cool town
                              Xel angry ass town
                              Rb null
                              Blind idk
                              AA wolf

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                              • botchi246
                                Keepin it Real since '05
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 608

                                #1410
                                Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

                                I havent been able to devote as much time as id like to this game. Round is still a scumlean for me based on d1 interactions

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