Re: TWG 130: Hi-Roller's C9++ GAME THREAD
Okay...what the fuck Red Blaster...
But whatever, what already happened already happened.
IF we have a Saint out there, we need this to confirm whenever the day starts so that we can chalk up the Mason block since that one is the easiest to solve.
And I feel pretty fucking stupid now since I just realized there could be 11 letters BUT looking at ALL the possible K's:
x1 = Kamikaze OR One-Shot Vigilante
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
x6 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze x2
If Blind was (which we see now that he's not) a 1-shot Vigilante, that WOULD have made Red Cheesecake's claim bullshit (which I pretty much fucking thought that he did since even though Blind is well...blind). Could everyone see where I was going with this? I thought that his shenanigans with Blind (and everyone in general) on Night 1 and the claim that he killed Riot (which even I thought that was completely random for Cheesecake) made no sense to the rationality of the Night Kills that happened.
Here's what we know FOR sure:
For the Investigative Roles
With the situation that Choof's AND Yoshl's claim are true
x4 = Seer, Tracker, One-Shot Seer OR Seer x2
x5 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot-Seer OR Seer x2, Tracker
x6 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer x2
x7 = Seer x2, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer
In order for their claim to be true: THERE must be AT LEAST one Tracker out there, otherwise one of the two claims isn't true, which therefore we would be looking at:
x1 = One-Shot Seer OR Tracker (determined randomly)
x2 = Seer OR Tracker, One-Shot Seer
x3 = Seer, Tracker
I included x2 and x3 out there in case we have a tracker and they would refute on either Yoshl's or Choof's claim if they went somewhere else. But looking at how the day went, I would pinpoint that we have I x4, I x5 OR I x7
For the Mason Roles
Since Psycho and I are Masons
x2 = Mason x2
x3 = Mason x2 + Saint OR Good Neighbor
x5 = Mason x3, Good Neighbor OR Mason A x2, Mason B x2
x6 = Mason A x2, Mason B x3 OR Saint, Mason A x2, Mason B x2
Psycho and I are pretty much locked clear in regards to the possible scenarios here, leaning towards the M x2 OR M x3 scenario and from the letters (see below) there can't be a M x6
And for the Killing Roles
Due to Red Lobster's stupidity
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
x6 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze x2
(the bold is to indicate what role to be in order to make said letter true)
And Red Lobster is pretty much cleared here as well from well...his stupidity and death. Sticking it to K x2. Also, a K x6 is impossible from what we're gathering at the confirmed letters since there can be a max of 11 letters (If I'm reading this correctly...)
Since we have a possibility of 11 letters, here's what WE could confirm so far with using the minimum letters:
IIIIMMKK; which makes it to be 8 of the 11 letters confirmed SO FAR.
We could have also:
IIIIIMMKK - 9 letters
IIIIIIMMKK - 10 letters
IIIIIIIMMKK - 11 letters
IIIIMMMKK - 9 letters
IIIIMMMMMKK - 11 letters
IIIIMMKKK - 9 letters
IIIIMMKKKK - 10 letters
IIIIMMKKKKK - 11 letters
Mixing all three up together, we have only these two solutions if no other letters pop up:
IIIIMMMKKK - 10 letters
IIIIIMMKKKK - 11 letters
I might be missing other possibilities since I just woke up but pretty sure that there can't be either 6 M's or 6 K's if the claims that Choof and Yoshl did hold up.
This would leave for the following:
For the Investigative Roles
With the situation that Choof's and Yoshl's claim is true
x4 = Seer, Tracker, One-Shot Seer OR Seer x2
x5 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot-Seer OR Seer x2, Tracker
x6 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer x2
x7 = Seer x2, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer
For the Mason Roles
Since Psycho and I are Masons
x2 = Mason x2
x3 = Mason x2 + Saint OR Good Neighbor
x5 = Mason x3, Good Neighbor OR Mason A x2, Mason B x2
And for the Killing Roles
Due to Red Lobster's stupidity
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
(the bold is to indicate what role to be in order to make said letter true)
Manti is an unknown blue to chalk up another possible letter on any of the fields, including the other letters that are in the set-up. And we have Tokzic who "softed" blue towards the end of the phase.
Therefore, Tokzic could might as well be either of the roles here:
- Seer
- Tracker
- Guardian
- Watcher
- Kamikaze
- Bodyguard
- Mason
- Roleblocker
- Wizard
- Spirit Morph
- Universal Backup
- Mage
- Elemental
I'm leaving Mason there since there could possibly be another Mason pair as well, making it M x5 (as we saw above that a M x6 is impossible with a set-up in the assumption that we have 11 letters in it). I left vigi out because it is impossible for there to be another vigi in the set-up as noted from the Cheesecake debacle. And left the Seer there because there could be a possible of two Seers in this, thus making it a possible of I x7.
WITH that in mind, I think that in Night 1, a wolf has killed Manti and SK killed blind (going by gut but we can see how successful that has been with Mr. Cheesecake >_>...)
With that in mind...
Top is locked clear (for now), bottom is hmmmmmm
Yoshl (1-shot Seer, now basically Vanilla Human)
Choof (Full Seer)
PsychoAngel (Mason)
Me (Mason)
------
Tokzic (softclaim blue, doesn't make him completely locked clear from my perspective but we shouldn't touch Tokzic for now)
lurker
j-rodd
Tox
Funny
Xel
Personally, we should look into the bottom 3 of the list: Tox, Funny and Xel next. Tox claimed Vanilla Townie from my understanding (can any player or Tox confirm this for me), Xel is just posting Yuri Yuri gifs like there's no tomorrow, and I don't think that Funny has brought up or softed anything from my understanding. I think that these three are a good start for Day 3 in my honest opinion. I think there could be a wolf in this pair but we'll have to see how the night rolls on by. But for the seering, any of the people that aren't locked cleared should be seered, especially on either Tox or Xel in my honest opinion since more so on these two I feel a wolf is between these two.
Now a question for the host:
In this scenario for the priorties:
Assuming that all three of those exist in this game, the Wizard's action would go through first correct? This is from what I'm reading from the priority tree. I'm just trying to understand the whole set-up properly.
And another question:
This means that we can have a Mason pair AND either a Saint or a Good Neighbor OR a Mason pair with a Saint OR just Good Neighbor alone? I'm just a bit confused on that part and need to double check on that.
Anyhow, fuck you Red Blaster for getting yourself modkilled for that stupidity. To be honest, I would have rather have a lynch and confirm that my gutread is wrong rather than some retard modkilling himself and going "fuck you town I am actually a blue lemme SCREENSHOT MY FUCKING ROLE PM". That really fucking irritated me you goddamn Cheesecake and I will policy lynch you for now on in any game that we're in no matter the role you have. Seriously, fuck you Red Blaster
Okay...what the fuck Red Blaster...
But whatever, what already happened already happened.
IF we have a Saint out there, we need this to confirm whenever the day starts so that we can chalk up the Mason block since that one is the easiest to solve.
And I feel pretty fucking stupid now since I just realized there could be 11 letters BUT looking at ALL the possible K's:
x1 = Kamikaze OR One-Shot Vigilante
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
x6 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze x2
If Blind was (which we see now that he's not) a 1-shot Vigilante, that WOULD have made Red Cheesecake's claim bullshit (which I pretty much fucking thought that he did since even though Blind is well...blind). Could everyone see where I was going with this? I thought that his shenanigans with Blind (and everyone in general) on Night 1 and the claim that he killed Riot (which even I thought that was completely random for Cheesecake) made no sense to the rationality of the Night Kills that happened.
Here's what we know FOR sure:
For the Investigative Roles
With the situation that Choof's AND Yoshl's claim are true
x4 = Seer, Tracker, One-Shot Seer OR Seer x2
x5 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot-Seer OR Seer x2, Tracker
x6 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer x2
x7 = Seer x2, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer
In order for their claim to be true: THERE must be AT LEAST one Tracker out there, otherwise one of the two claims isn't true, which therefore we would be looking at:
x1 = One-Shot Seer OR Tracker (determined randomly)
x2 = Seer OR Tracker, One-Shot Seer
x3 = Seer, Tracker
I included x2 and x3 out there in case we have a tracker and they would refute on either Yoshl's or Choof's claim if they went somewhere else. But looking at how the day went, I would pinpoint that we have I x4, I x5 OR I x7
For the Mason Roles
Since Psycho and I are Masons
x2 = Mason x2
x3 = Mason x2 + Saint OR Good Neighbor
x5 = Mason x3, Good Neighbor OR Mason A x2, Mason B x2
x6 = Mason A x2, Mason B x3 OR Saint, Mason A x2, Mason B x2
Psycho and I are pretty much locked clear in regards to the possible scenarios here, leaning towards the M x2 OR M x3 scenario and from the letters (see below) there can't be a M x6
And for the Killing Roles
Due to Red Lobster's stupidity
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
x6 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze x2
(the bold is to indicate what role to be in order to make said letter true)
And Red Lobster is pretty much cleared here as well from well...his stupidity and death. Sticking it to K x2. Also, a K x6 is impossible from what we're gathering at the confirmed letters since there can be a max of 11 letters (If I'm reading this correctly...)
Since we have a possibility of 11 letters, here's what WE could confirm so far with using the minimum letters:
IIIIMMKK; which makes it to be 8 of the 11 letters confirmed SO FAR.
We could have also:
IIIIIMMKK - 9 letters
IIIIIIMMKK - 10 letters
IIIIIIIMMKK - 11 letters
IIIIMMMKK - 9 letters
IIIIMMMMMKK - 11 letters
IIIIMMKKK - 9 letters
IIIIMMKKKK - 10 letters
IIIIMMKKKKK - 11 letters
Mixing all three up together, we have only these two solutions if no other letters pop up:
IIIIMMMKKK - 10 letters
IIIIIMMKKKK - 11 letters
I might be missing other possibilities since I just woke up but pretty sure that there can't be either 6 M's or 6 K's if the claims that Choof and Yoshl did hold up.
This would leave for the following:
For the Investigative Roles
With the situation that Choof's and Yoshl's claim is true
x4 = Seer, Tracker, One-Shot Seer OR Seer x2
x5 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot-Seer OR Seer x2, Tracker
x6 = Seer, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer x2
x7 = Seer x2, Tracker x2, One-Shot Seer
For the Mason Roles
Since Psycho and I are Masons
x2 = Mason x2
x3 = Mason x2 + Saint OR Good Neighbor
x5 = Mason x3, Good Neighbor OR Mason A x2, Mason B x2
And for the Killing Roles
Due to Red Lobster's stupidity
x2 = Vigilante OR Kamikaze, One-Shot Vigiliante
x3 = Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard
x4 = Vigilante, Kamikaze x2 OR Bodyguard, One-Shot Vigilante
x5 = Vigilante, Bodyguard, Kamikaze
(the bold is to indicate what role to be in order to make said letter true)
Manti is an unknown blue to chalk up another possible letter on any of the fields, including the other letters that are in the set-up. And we have Tokzic who "softed" blue towards the end of the phase.
Therefore, Tokzic could might as well be either of the roles here:
- Seer
- Tracker
- Guardian
- Watcher
- Kamikaze
- Bodyguard
- Mason
- Roleblocker
- Wizard
- Spirit Morph
- Universal Backup
- Mage
- Elemental
I'm leaving Mason there since there could possibly be another Mason pair as well, making it M x5 (as we saw above that a M x6 is impossible with a set-up in the assumption that we have 11 letters in it). I left vigi out because it is impossible for there to be another vigi in the set-up as noted from the Cheesecake debacle. And left the Seer there because there could be a possible of two Seers in this, thus making it a possible of I x7.
WITH that in mind, I think that in Night 1, a wolf has killed Manti and SK killed blind (going by gut but we can see how successful that has been with Mr. Cheesecake >_>...)
With that in mind...
Top is locked clear (for now), bottom is hmmmmmm
Yoshl (1-shot Seer, now basically Vanilla Human)
Choof (Full Seer)
PsychoAngel (Mason)
Me (Mason)
------
Tokzic (softclaim blue, doesn't make him completely locked clear from my perspective but we shouldn't touch Tokzic for now)
lurker
j-rodd
Tox
Funny
Xel
Personally, we should look into the bottom 3 of the list: Tox, Funny and Xel next. Tox claimed Vanilla Townie from my understanding (can any player or Tox confirm this for me), Xel is just posting Yuri Yuri gifs like there's no tomorrow, and I don't think that Funny has brought up or softed anything from my understanding. I think that these three are a good start for Day 3 in my honest opinion. I think there could be a wolf in this pair but we'll have to see how the night rolls on by. But for the seering, any of the people that aren't locked cleared should be seered, especially on either Tox or Xel in my honest opinion since more so on these two I feel a wolf is between these two.
Now a question for the host:
In this scenario for the priorties:
Blocking
- Wizard
- Wolf Roleblocker
- Human Roleblocker
- Wizard
- Wolf Roleblocker
- Human Roleblocker
And another question:
x3 = Mason x2 + Saint OR Good Neighbor
Anyhow, fuck you Red Blaster for getting yourself modkilled for that stupidity. To be honest, I would have rather have a lynch and confirm that my gutread is wrong rather than some retard modkilling himself and going "fuck you town I am actually a blue lemme SCREENSHOT MY FUCKING ROLE PM". That really fucking irritated me you goddamn Cheesecake and I will policy lynch you for now on in any game that we're in no matter the role you have. Seriously, fuck you Red Blaster
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