TWG CXVII (reroll): General Hospital

[XelNya]

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mea [2:42 AM] Xelnya is annoying me because he hasn't really done anything, although bdn was leaning town to me

mea [2:43 AM] Sunfan is defending him pretty hard, which I find interesting

Blanky

[James May]

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Day 4 votes

thesunfan -> Mea
XelNya -> Blanket


Mea - 1 (thesunfan)
Blanket - 1 (XelNya)

Insta is at 3

[James May]

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Phase ends in 3 hrs 15 mins

[MeaCulpa]

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Ok re-read stuff...

Not gonna vote sunfan because of the whole manti situation. Told me he really dislikes players who bus the hell out of their wolf partners to appear green, so it would be really weird if he was doing the same.

Not gonna vote blanky because he's green as fuc to me. If he's a wolf I'll probably never play twg again because of how green he is on my radar.

I haven't seen or heard much from xel, but to be fair I don't know if he's talked much with other players. As I've said before, almost seems too inactive to be even a utr wolf and thus hasn't really said or done anything wolfy. I think pass for today.

This leaves blind. Cruising along the game but seems to be latching onto specific pieces of information about gameplay (how VT should be played, ymia's wolf-call on him), but nothing frankly wolfy in my eyes. Seems to be well-distanced from funny and manti, with the odd casual exchange about how to play this game from manti. This is more of a process-of-elimination vote because the others appear less red.

Kinda feel like I'm just repeating myself, but my suspicion order is pretty much the same as yesterday. Also I have to head out now, so probably won't be able to post again until after end of phase, and my vote is likely staying on blind.

[___________]

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Believe it or not, that was my ENTIRE thought process when I went over it last night and today:

- I'm town, believe me.

- Greg also seems a light green: he fought hard against Manti the "day" before, but also tried to get me to vote off Funny. Not sure if he got fooled or he just pretended, but I'll pass for now. /null

- I've concluded that Mea is highly unlikely to be a wolf based on his posts, and if he is he's damn good at it. Since we're talking about Manti I might as well bring this quote up for reference (shared this with sunfan yesterday):

Mea: has been doing a lot of good pro town digging, if he's a wolf he definatley deserves to be living till late game. Sunfan disagrees with me and says im underestimating him.

If Mea was truly wolf, then /why/ would Manti want to draw any attention to him. If anything, he'd probably go out of his way to criticize you, from what I have seen. Looks more like he was trying to cover for himself as a wolf. Greg says that this is WIFOM, but I really think there's only one possible explanation for this, which is Manti hiding himself.

- XelNya just seems to....not care about this game very much. He put it nicely with his "give 0 fucks approach", and his random vote for me was just a reaction (talked w/ me about this). I'm willing to consider him human....for now, that is.

- And then we come to blind. His posts, on their own, do not make me suspicious. It was Manti's attempts at distancing himself from blind that do. Refer to the following quotes as proof:

Why wouldn't you want to stand out to the wolves? Fear of dying? The role of a human is essentially to use all the infomation at your disposal to catch wolves while being a meatshield for the blues.

Like so what they know you're a vanilla townie. Being a VT isn't something to hide. If you got wolved it would help us significantly.

You try.

You create associaions with other players, you attempt to lead and share ideas. You participate in the general dischord of the game. Doing all these things solidifies you as a positive town contributer and makes it so the wolves have to kill you at night because there'e no way you'll get lynched as a human.

You can't be a meatshield anymore because all our blues are dead, but If the wolves were to kill you as a green early on because you are annoying them, it's one more night for the blues to work and use their powers. One more day of having a confirmable human in order to narrow down the lynch pool.

Can't tell is blind is playing dumb and is a wolf or is just dumb.

It's important to keep in mind Manti also did precisely the same to Funny:

Like I know you made the post after this and everything, but your gameplay has been "claim wolf waltz along and get mad at people who call you a wolf for it"

Like wut? Productivity please.

This is why I see blind at the top of my suspicions list. It could be that Manti's trying to throw us off doing it to funny and blind, but the second quote by him does not make a lot of sense.

tl;dr blind > sun > mea = xel

[thesunfan]

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My lynches for today are either blind or mea. Preferably Mea
Blind is the safe lynch and I believe I've discussed with everyone why that is. However, he is not distanced from his potential partners very well. He only paid attention to funny when she claimed and he didn't distance himself from Manti in any way. Possible its a noob wolf; would be bad if he was alive in final three but I think Mea is just wolfier.

____________ has been writing Mea off b/c he doesn't think he would be this good as a wolf. I strongly urge people not to use this in arguments, particularly when Mea has proven himself already. Look at the Capture game; that's all you need to see. He's a good player. He knows what he's doing. Its kind of a process of elimination read for me more than anything.
Mittens isn't diabolical enough atm to be a wolf, I think he would care more also he was totally willing to fuck Manti over there and pushed on funny a tiny bit before she claimed. Pass for now; I think he's somewhat town.
If ___________ is a wolf he's played to a tee the exact strategy that I despite wolves for doing; busing his partners for NO reason other than to play for late game. I kind of have more respect for ___________ as a player so I don't see him doing this. I really hope he didn't anyways. If he is human he should be very proud of the way he has played this game. I like the conviction behind his thoughts although I believe he tries way too hard to get into the heads of the confirmed wolves. I guess I'm guilty of that too sometimes but pass on him for now; maybe for the whole game.

I kind of want Mea dead solely for the reason that I'm reading everyone else more human than him. Wouldn't be upset if blind was gone though

[blindreper1179]

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xel So....a three way kitb?

[blindreper1179]

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After reading everyone's thought process, I've come to the conclusion of:

Xel because I think it's a perfect strategy of floating by as wolf. All of you think he's human solely because he's given zero fucks. The way the days went, it was pretty easy to bandwagon on the dying without being to noticeable about it. I didn't vote manti because I didn't sense wolf on him, but I did for funny which is why I voted her out.

Mea- Sun brings up a good point with you. He says you're a good player, and I don't have any reason to disagree. I know sun knows what he's talking about based on games played with him, and the little bit of talk we did irl.

Sun- You have good reasoning skills, which puts you here. Though, I do agree about the whole mea situation, that is a good tactic whether on purpose or not to throw the target off your back.

Blank- Human. I'm finally convinced total green with what sun said here;
If ___________ is a wolf he's played to a tee the exact strategy that I despite wolves for doing; busing his partners for NO reason other than to play for late game. I kind of have more respect for ___________ as a player so I don't see him doing this. I really hope he didn't anyways. If he is human he should be very proud of the way he has played this game. I like the conviction behind his thoughts although I believe he tries way too hard to get into the heads of the confirmed wolves.

[___________]

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I was stepping a song then I took a break then I was like OH SHIT LESS THAN AN HoUR BEFORE THE LYNCH. Manhunts are so nerve-wracking sometimes... I'll try and decide on the wolf by that time though.

[XelNya]

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Xel because I think it's a perfect strategy of floating by as wolf. All of you think he's human solely because he's given zero fucks. The way the days went, it was pretty easy to bandwagon on the dying without being to noticeable about it. I didn't vote manti because I didn't sense wolf on him, but I did for funny which is why I voted her out.

Realize the real big flaw here is that were I a wolf I wouldn't throw manti under a bus. Funny maybe but Manti certainly not. granted he did outlive all the doctors and he played his part I'd argue perfectly. Soonfan's right, this isn't a game where I'd take that kind of a risk.

Blind

A three way knife in the box would be stupid here.

[___________]

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Also, the Capture game paints no indication of what Mea's like as a wolf. In that particular game, he teamed up me and Riotpolice so we could have the majority against the others. Don't see why you're using CXIII as a reference. I will agree he's a very good player however.

[thesunfan]

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uh he only beat 18 other people after his partner was first to die
yeah I agree not impressive at all you're right ____________

[___________]

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Not saying it's not impressive. He rightfully deserved MVP of that game, by a landslide. But I'm saying it just doesn't prove he's a wolf this game (gambler's fallacy)

[thesunfan]

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no I'm not saying it does
I'm just surprised at people saying "I don't think he's good enough to pull this off" and the like

[XelNya]

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Blind

Why would you force a three way gamble lynch here unless you wanted to save your skin as a wolf? What was your real process of thought other than

"Xel is a wolf due to UTR"

Answer quick plz