TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

[yo man im awesome]

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My family and I are going to be away watching a movie for a couple hours, so I won't be able to respond for a little while.

[evanescence_death4ever]

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What I'm having issues with about V's posting nature is that my judgements may be more-so biased than they should be. I know it's the internet, so prepare to be trolled, flamed, yelled at, called an idiot, etc. etc. etc. V--I don't know if I'm suspicious of you, or whether it's me just being irked by you with every post you submit. Yeah, I heard you're harsh and that's just your demeanor, but really some of the things you are saying are unnecessary. Maybe that's just part of your style of play...

Although I worry I may be falling into a trap here, but Tps makes a good point here by saying, "Honestly, I hope you're a wolf this game, because elsewise we're just engaging in an ego-fueled circle jerk that the wolves are just laughing at right now." (Well...if he truly IS a townie, that is..)

I'm hoping you're a wolf too, because this back and forth seems pointless, otherwise.

[Vendetta21]

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Part of the reason I'm mad at viccica is she disappeared forever when there were votes on her, didn't really defend herself or contribute to that phase at all, and she didn't reveal that she was the fireman. These are the sorts of things members of a human team need to do to contribute as a baseline for playing the game.

And you are affecting this "V is a bad player" vibe when I don't think you believe that for a second. Missing stuff, estimating wrong: that is the stuff of TWG.

But you know what I am doing right now that you aren't? I'm actually articulating my reads and feelings instead of just saying "TPS is doing things that make me feel confused."

You have turned against me and started calling wolf-or-idiot because I found one thing I wanted greater clarification on, felt incredibly suspicious of you when you didn't clarify on that, and then have gone all big-ego-circlejerk and angry on day one simply for being paid attention to.

You could like, not get angry and articulate what your train of thought was, like... you know, a person who feels things and thinks about them?

Why did you announce yourself at the beginning of day one? Where did that come from? You acknowledged it was out of character, so that means it's probably a novel enough feeling or sentiment that you should be able to remember.

[Tps222]

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Here are some posts from YMIA that create a thread linking V and YMIA together:

Well that was nice of you V. We do want people to stay here, you know?

Nice dissociation tactic.

Don't worry about the aggressiveness of V, Eva, he's like that with just about everybody, its nothing personal

Again. Notice going to the defense of a new player here and in a post in the future; an easy way to gain human credibility points.

oh, I didn't random yet.

Uhh

Viccica

Similar lynch target as V. (With just as credible reasoning)

Besides all that circumstantial shit, here is what really tipped me off:

Anyway. Eva, you want to convince everyone that your a Town player, aka the good team. It can be tough, as there is suspicion on everyone, but claiming a role is perfectly acceptable

An attempt to slyly fish out blues. JRodd calls him out for this and he responds:

originally Posted by j-rodd123 View Post
are you advocating claiming a power role right now?

Depends on the role I guess, but no. I was just explaining that's its better to be perceived as town rather than wolf by the majority, no?

Stating the obvious as a defense against his intentions.

The post that made me cast my vote:

Anyhow, I feel relatively the same way as Yoshl, although I'm slightly less suspicious. He's being veerry fluffy with his posts, but I really don't think he's trying to hide anything, at least I don't think so yet.

However, I am extremely curious about Manti. He's had a whopping total of 3 posts in the thread, but he's very clearly been in the thread. Are you intentionally not posting? Are you trying to UTR us? If you are in fact trying to pull your usual stunt as a wolf with your UTR play I personally wouldn't hesitate to lynch you.

Manti, anything for us?

The 2nd paragraph is literally a rephrasing of previously stated opinions in the thread. It's entirely possible that he simply just agrees with the sentiment, but that brought it up to 3 votes on Manti, hardly necessary to prove his point. Also, he's acting as if he has never played a game with Manti in his life, and fails to recognize that 3 posts in day 1 is par for the course for Manti (the same can be said about Vicc, and YMIA/V have already pushed that button).

I think that's a pretty good display of where my mind is at. I made this post because I felt a bit dickish by the end of my last one.

[Vendetta21]

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Trying to convince V he's wrong by saying he was wrong last time, at least in the way you just worded it, was a terrible move there, Tps.

Fucking spot on. This is an overarching character attack that takes away from the topic being discussed at present.

It aims to diminish my credibility so people will stop taking what I say seriously. He did this last game by saying I make the "laziest plays ever" and he also did it while I was voting for him.

[evanescence_death4ever]

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I could totally be wrong, though.




I do feel like we are letting a few people just slide under the radar, though. Krauth hasn't said anything for a while now, and what about that Viccica person? or James? Is this just me being impatient? I guess people do have lives (as do I--which I should get back to at the present moment).

[Tps222]

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WOW. If that bolded sentence wasn't wolfy I don't know what is.

And right after it you're trying to guilt trip the fuck out of him. Trying to convince V he's wrong by saying he was wrong last time, at least in the way you just worded it, was a terrible move there, Tps.

Tps.

Then you're terrible at reading players. Everything i'm saying is 100% genuine and completely contrasting my wolf-game play style. I'm purposefully acting a bit extreme to drive that point home. Not because I'm trying to create a new paradigm to operate under as a wolf (because honestly, why would I do it like this?) and launching a full out character assault on day 1 is always a terrible move if you're a wolf. You should realize this.

I love that you're hopping on the bandwagon again though. If I die, I cant wait to see what you end up flipping; my death will feel justified if I turn out to be right.

[Vendetta21]

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I do feel like we are letting a few people just slide under the radar, though. Krauth hasn't said anything for a while now, and what about that Viccica person? or James? Is this just me being impatient? I guess people do have lives (as do I--which I should get back to at the present moment).

All players cannot investigate all players. You can investigate these people and say stuff about them.

[Tps222]

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Ooh ooh ooh! This one is my favorite bit of hypocrisy:

Also, you made a generic claim to vanilla townie, trying to use the the fact that you don't claim often to gain amnesty from suspicion. I really don't think that's a good plan.

Anyway. Eva, you want to convince everyone that your a Town player, aka the good team. It can be tough, as there is suspicion on everyone, but claiming a role is perfectly acceptable

Delicious.

[Krauthammer]

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I feel more wary of yoman than any other player in the game so far. While tps made a post that hint a possible connection between yoman and Vendetta, I don't think there is a real wolf connection between them.

However, I feel it kinda odd that yoman went as far as calling another player as an UTR play...in these circumstances. It is true that Manti has a playstyle that normally involves posting little, and that he shouldn't get free passes on it, but, at least from what I see and/or remember, it is odd for yoman to attack so early in the game (I mean, we have six days, and to be honest I'm kinda aghast there are so many votes, almost all of them being random)...I personally don't remember a time he has done it.

yoman, I'm wondering what exactly made you ask Manti for that, when...well...there are several players that fit your reasoning as well! Players like Viccicca, James May, and me.

[evanescence_death4ever]

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All players cannot investigate all players. You can investigate these people and say stuff about them.

That makes sense.

I'm kind of waiting to see if Kraut says anything--as he is viewing the thread right now.

I realize that I still have yet to change my vote on Drizz... I'm currently trying to figure her out. However, I am questioning why she straight away and voted me after I voted her. It seemed like an attack back at me. I'll keep an eye out.

I'll watch for the players I mentioned, too.

[Tps222]

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Oh, another thing I want to mention.

When I was a wolf in the last C9++, my biggest complaint was that I couldn't communicate with my fellow wolves before the game started.

Hell, I didn't talk to my fellow wolves until 6 real life days had passed.

What I'm trying to say is, the wolves are not going to be operating under some cohesive plan of action right now. Each of them is on a solo island and are trying to secretly establish a base mindset within this thread to operate by.

This is something we should all be aware of and look for in people's actions.

[Tps222]

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Alright, i've had time to calm down now. I want to apologize to V solely for my character assassination attempt. I hold too much respect for his mindset and I overreacted to his perfectly reasonable desire to hear out my reasoning behind my YMIA vote (Which I have regrettably stained with my actions).

If we truly are on the same team, we have a much much better chance at achieving the only thing that either of us care about, winning, if we work as a cohesive analytic powerhouse.

From here on out I promise to refrain from lashing out at people who ask for me to clarify my votes.

aka i'm sorry dude : \

[YoshL]

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I don't think James is trying to go UTR, he's just literally not here.

[YoshL]

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I do have some stuff to say, but gimme a while to write it lol