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  • Hakulyte
    the Haku
    • Jul 2005
    • 4682

    #781
    Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

    So, now I guess I need to iso both DFR and WV and then figure out if I could be wrong and work around that.

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    • Hakulyte
      the Haku
      • Jul 2005
      • 4682

      #782
      Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

      DFR has 30 posts. Let's quote everything where he talks about someone.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      Through the first 6 pages:
      Haku town
      FFA is weird, I feel like they're town but I can't really get behind them, like that interaction with haku in the beginning felt like a wall throwing bricks at a wall. I think I'll take a bit longer to feel a general way about them.
      Celery is in the same boat, feels like a little derpy as it is early with random over reactions, see celery calling out haku on "do you think its w/w?" "W/w?? Is that a slip??" Not sure if meant to take with a bit of salt.
      WV is green lean because he seems chillin and he seems to be helping with cross referencing games. I dont have beef or anything, yet muahaa
      Everyone else is null rn lemme read more
      If WV is the wolf partner, why would he includes him in his read ? Would it be more logical for DFR to have reads on Xiz/Gradiant (?). Maybe he didn't want to get in a fight with them tho.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      I'm on the not lynching ffa train that raekos starting but not because of the "script" aspect but more like they feel like red blaster to me in their town game. Or mml even, I may not like their tone but
      Okay, that's useless we already know FFA/Raeko were town.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      My read on wv is hes chillin. He certainly feels comfortable to me tone wise
      That could be interpreted either way, but noted.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      More like I just got home xd I've been gone all day cuz I had a gig playing music downtown tonight.

      FFA: is haku randing 2 names being dishonest and giving incorrect reads really better than him saying idk? i mean it's day 1, it's ridiculous to try to call out a wolf team already. like i have a pocket full of maybes and maybe nots but i couldn't piece together who the wolves are yet
      DFR trying to be my friend.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      dbp can you explain your logic on masons? I feel like maybe it's good for the individual to look for them to be knowledgeable and throw protection but I feel like you keep that to yourself, not out it in the game to everyone. Unless you mean like protection strategy to where you bullshit mason reads or something.
      PR hunt was real. Why would DFR PR hunt DBP if I was his wolf partner and sold him FFA/Raeko as the masons at this junction ?

      Wow, that sounds pretty calculated for me. I'm a wolf genius.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      could you elaborate on your read on xiz please?
      This could be something because he seems worried about Xiz, but most likely a false positive to create bullshit. (?)
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      then how do you feel about wv
      Not sure what's up with the thematic of being worried about WV as a wolf.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      how do you think it looks good for wayward now? were you content with his reads list?
      Again DFR seems really interested into placing attention into WV instead of everything else. Seems like the goal is to stay low profile ?
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      i felt worse about wv after his reads list but i feel like they were low effort because he's doing shit. haku's on my no kill list and ffa isn't either, for now. hopefully he answers my question though :3
      Okay, he's trying to move away from WV and I'm on his no kill list now because I was most likely on a quest to mislynch everyone except him at this point. Makes sense.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      I dont like celera because their reads list was really weird, I didnt understand how they read xiz one way (town) and wv the other (scum) where I had thought they played similarly enough up to that point. It didnt seem consistent but maybe that's just my interpretation of those two players

      In addition, I didnt like where the lynch was going and sisnt agree with lynching dbp, and the only other candidate was probably ffa which I didnt feel comfortable with either. However today I've felt like FFA has been "fluff fluff kill haku fluff fluff" which is a little silly.

      I think it's kinda silly that I question logic for someone's perception of what to do with blues in general. You lynch the guy that says it. And I'm getting scumread for it.
      Looks like DFR is not happy that WV is getting pressure. Trying to shift the game, but it didn't work ? This make it feel like DFR/Cel & DFR/Xiz is less likely. DBP/FFA we already know the alignments etc.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      hakus town to me, gradients slight town to me, wv is slight town to me but slipping, ffa is slight town to me, xiz is null to me, celery is light scum to me so haku to answer your question I'd vote cel into xiz
      That was a key post to me in terms of reads.
      It makes it resonate to me as;
      Gradiant is town.
      DFR is hesitating at fully town reading WV.
      Moved back FFA to town instead of pushing him.
      Xiz most likely town, but didn't want to have anything to do with him (?)
      Celirra/DFR slightly less likely to be aligned.
      ..and trying to pocket me ofc.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      Ohoho strikeout gottem.

      In this game I haven't felt good about anyone really except for haku. Raekos flip makes me feel like ffa is town but his play has been frustrating. I dont understand the pressure on gradient because I've felt like hes been pretty decent all game to call him townie. Wv is interesting because I feel like hes been townie but had a bad case of the mias. His content is lacking but his tone leads me to feel hes town. Hes not worried to me. Xiz has been straight null all game to me. Cel has been awkward with early overanalysis and awkward reads to me as I have elaborated on previously.
      See previous post.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      Because I dont really feel like typing out all my reasoning while I'm at this baseball game. I'm trying here.

      Raeko flip helps FFA because why would she go out of her way sticking her neck out for ffa after she flips Mason. Makes sense why to me. Gradient just reads town to me, he hasn't done anything super silly in my opinion that makes me turn my head at him. I'm trying to explain the most for you because you're my top scum read regardless how confident I feel on it
      Oh noes, Gradiant getting town read. I shall ignore this for my sanity.
      Originally posted by danceflashrevo
      I especially town read gradient for this reaction though
      :eyeroll: please do not be alignment indicative.

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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4682

        #783
        Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        My vote will be on FFA, xiz, or celery. I'll have to think about it while I'm on my date

        Btw guys I'm on a date!!
        Well, that doesn't feel like the right place.

        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        How much do you trust dbp's read on me? This question is for everyone



        Most
        Haku
        Xiz
        Dfr
        Gradient
        FFA
        Least
        The reason for the order is super shitty and mostly based on memory
        This list wasn't updated after WV reread the thread.

        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        If it makes you feel better you're only top because I haven't caught up yet.
        Quoting this to point out why I said that about the previous post.

        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        Also please answer my question about what you think about dbp reading me as hard town
        I would mind if he asked others why they think he's town, but asking why "DBP is town reading him" seems weird to me.

        Originally posted by danceflashrevo
        I mean I thought he was town but its slipping, like I'm not too fond of him anymore lol. To answer your question, not much.

        Haku you asked for something from me and I gave you it lol. I'll try to elaborate in a second let this inning end
        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        If you think I should die for playing like shit then please put your vote on me so I can narrow down who I should look at. Hurry up because I'm running out of time
        That's an odd interaction to me, but I can't quite describe properly why it could be wrong.

        Oh yeah, they're not directly addressing each others.

        They're staying indirect about "if you think I'm a wolf, feel free to throw pressure on me".

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        • Celirra
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2015
          • 749

          #784
          Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

          I'm ok with wv this phase
          I see xiz as lock town
          I see haku as dumb
          I would only see gradient as wolf by poe
          ,,
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           ノ li.゚ ヮ゚ノi
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          • Celirra
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2015
            • 749

            #785
            Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

            Haku as dumb is a meme his logic grew on me but I still don't think it was a good idea
            ,,
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             ノ li.゚ ヮ゚ノi
            彡と} 猫.{つ

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            • Hakulyte
              the Haku
              • Jul 2005
              • 4682

              #786
              Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

              The other thing to look up into is this previous EoD in terms of interactions and how it somehow ended on DFR and what could it mean for everyone.

              Good spot to make a town circle and lock the game further.

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              • Hakulyte
                the Haku
                • Jul 2005
                • 4682

                #787
                Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                You can say my play was mechanically dumb, but I think it's a gold mine for interactions and helping town connect together.

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                • Hakulyte
                  the Haku
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4682

                  #788
                  Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                  In the world where I'm a wolf;

                  DFR dies here.
                  FFA lives (or die).
                  Next phase my CC makes me die because of FFA's flip.

                  Wolves lose.

                  Alternatively, I die for free to FFA's CC which I don't even defend.
                  I flip wolf.
                  Wolves are suddenly in a bad spot.

                  --

                  The risk is just not worth it, but if you want to assume that I would yolo like this before mylo go ahead.

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                  • Xiz
                    TWG Chaos
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 3399

                    #789
                    Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                    Originally posted by Hakulyte

                    I didn't actually find both masons.
                    I honestly didn't think you could upset me more lmfao

                    I've like gotten past the point of being upset and am just finding this hilarious now.

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                    • Hakulyte
                      the Haku
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4682

                      #790
                      Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                      Originally posted by Hakulyte
                      In the world where I'm a wolf;

                      DFR dies here.
                      FFA lives (or die).
                      Next phase my CC makes me die because of FFA's flip.

                      Wolves lose.

                      Alternatively, I die for free to FFA's CC which I don't even defend.
                      I flip wolf.
                      Wolves are suddenly in a bad spot.

                      --

                      The risk is just not worth it, but if you want to assume that I would yolo like this before mylo go ahead.
                      Oh wait- I could be a god tier wolf who set up DFR's lynch to protect myself.

                      Fuck that would be so good.

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                      • Hakulyte
                        the Haku
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4682

                        #791
                        Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                        (and so stupid)

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                        • Xiz
                          TWG Chaos
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3399

                          #792
                          Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          When it comes to Gradiant ...... the patience to not leave the game after witnessing FFA and me being FFA and me (haha) was phenomenal.
                          This is a bad reason for a read. Same logic should be applied to almost everyone if you believe this. I don't see how gradient not leaving separates him from the rest of us.

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                          • Xiz
                            TWG Chaos
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 3399

                            #793
                            Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            Moral of the story; I hate masons. They make the game overly complicated and they make me freak out because I could be protecting a wolf and I felt super triggered that I could be protecting a wolf FFA all game.
                            Nothing about masons is complex. You chose to make it complex and through your actions removed a possible mason being alive today.

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                            • Xiz
                              TWG Chaos
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3399

                              #794
                              Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                              I had a whole rant I was about to post about how to do a fakeclaim correctly to protect a power role but it's not worth thread discussion so I'll talk about that later.

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                              • Wayward Vagabond
                                Confirmed Heartbreaker
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 5866

                                #795
                                Re: TWG Turbo XXIII Game Thread

                                the reason i asked how people felt about dbp hard reading me town is because every time he's done that i've been a wolf and i wanted t know if that is something others had caught onto and their reactions to it i thought would help me read them if they had played in those previous games. iirc only gradient replied and it said who cares or something like that. it didnt help me out though because i don't think he's played in the games where dbp hard town read me and i was a wolf welp.

                                also when i asked who wanted to lynch me for my shit playing it wasn't so i can narrow it down and pick between who did want me lynched but to who didn't want me lynched. i'm an easy target and i think it is in the wolves best interest to keep me alive longer rather than have me lynched yesterday.

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