jTWG: Graduation Day

[Shikari]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

My vote is for DiscoBobbyPARANOiA too.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

What do you mean nice try?

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

I'm on a friend's laptop atm, so I'm using meebo (web browser version of trillian)

Formatting is a bit different as a result. I don't have time to sit on aim through this day/night cycle enough to talk to people, so I'm just going to post this here.

[14:45] DBP TWG: What do you mean nice try?
[14:45] raphz0rrr: That wasn't Razor typing.
[14:46] DBP TWG: Who was it?
[14:46] DBP TWG: That's a direct copy/paste from aim
[14:46] raphz0rrr: You. Pretty much faking a convo to attract attention to another player in the first day.
[14:46] DBP TWG: Seriously?
[14:46] raphz0rrr: That's my opinion.
[14:46] DBP TWG: What makes you so sure that wasn't razor?
[14:46] raphz0rrr: Because I talk with him a lot.
[14:47] DBP TWG: What does that have to do with it? Please be specific.
[14:47] raphz0rrr: The way he types.
[14:47] raphz0rrr: It's not like that.
[14:47] raphz0rrr: Capitalized, with proper periods.
[14:47] DBP TWG: Well, I regret to inform you, that was the person I claimed it to be, barring, obviously, someone else being on their account
[14:48] DBP TWG: Just because someone talks to you one way doesn't mean it's the way they talk to everyone. Some people try to type formally when typing to people about specific things
[14:48] raphz0rrr: Good point, but I still don't think it was him, that's all.
[14:48] DBP TWG: Wait until they actually say it's not them. Don't just throw a vote on me
[14:49] DBP TWG: You're going to look silly when they post "Yeah I said that, and here's why."
[14:49] raphz0rrr: I may look silly, but that's what I think.
[14:50] raphz0rrr: Like any other people ever made a mistake on TWG.
[14:50] DBP TWG: I'm not trying to insult you, I'm trying to help you. Putting a vote on an experienced player based on what you think someone types like isn't a good way to win the game. It's a good way to make you look bad
[14:50] DBP TWG: And by bad I mean a wolf, not "bad"
[14:50] DBP TWG: Sorry
[14:51] raphz0rrr: Nah, I'm not taking it as an insult, don't worry.
[14:51] DBP TWG: That was the conversation I had. It was not altered in any way. I saved it through aim, then copy/paste from the convo load interface
[14:52] raphz0rrr: And my point of view, with the convo you posted, is that you faked it to give him attention, claiming he's a wolf, instead of you.
[14:52] raphz0rrr: I'm not experienced, but that's how I think, see?
[14:52] DBP TWG: I didn't say he was a wolf though. I didn't even vote for him, or ask other people to. I stated the possible cases, and didn't say which I thought was actually the case. I was asking for input
[14:53] raphz0rrr: "To me, either razor is excited about having an item (trying to figure out who to use it on) or an excited wolf.

I would like for item holders to please state that you had them, and for razor to let us know if (s)he is a wolf or not. "
[14:53] DBP TWG: We can't jump on every little thing and just lynch people left and right. We'll lose that way. We need to talk and decide how to approach things
[14:53] raphz0rrr: First line: You implied a little he was a wolf.
[14:53] DBP TWG: I implied it was possible
[14:53] raphz0rrr: Second line: Even if he actually was the wolf, he'd say "no"
[14:54] raphz0rrr: "No, I'm not the wolf, I have this item"
[14:54] DBP TWG: If he's the wolf, he's going to have an item that a human can't have, and it'll be obvious. If he claims to have had one of the human items, we know he's lying, and we win
[14:55] DBP TWG: It's a win/win for him (I'm assuming it's a he at this point) to come out and state what item he had, if he did. And the "Let us know if you're a wolf" was a joke, clearly.
[14:55] raphz0rrr: It's a "he". The only girl playing is Syhto, afaik.
[14:55] DBP TWG: Okay
[14:55] DBP TWG: Thanks you
[14:55] DBP TWG: -s
[14:55] raphz0rrr: Anyway, I gotta go now.
[14:55] raphz0rrr: I may be back later in this week.
[14:56] raphz0rrr: My monitor died, but I'll try to be active in the thread.
[14:56] raphz0rrr: See you later.
[14:56] DBP TWG: Okay
[14:56] raphz0rrr: By the way, I'm a human and have no items.
[14:56] DBP TWG: Noted
[14:56] Meebo Message: raphz0rrr is offline

Take it for what you will. Appears to be human to me, and just inexperienced. I've not payed attention to recent playing at all, so I apologize if you've played 50 games and I'm just dumb.

It would still be nice for people to come forward with what they had last night, and for razor to give us some input.

Also, Gun92. There is plenty of material in the thread to look at and respond to, please do that. Starting a bandwagon that a wolf can hop on isn't a good idea.

[Gun92]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

My vote wasn't a bandwagon smarty pants. I voted a safety on you cause you were the first name that popped out and my vote was first so its staying.

[Gun92]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Anyone could hop onto any vote any who. Also, I read what you said wrong the first time. If someone else is going to vote for you after a random safety, you have obviously given them reason to.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

my vote was first so its staying.

Pretty bad reason to leave your vote where someone else's is.
"I don't think you're the wolf, but I voted for you first, so I'm leaving it there. I don't care if you get lynched. Na-na na-na na na."

It's supposed to be a safety, it's supposed to be a random person who doesn't get lynched. Plus the fact that you're just making a safety instead of talking about the game. Makes you look like you're trying to lay low. Just my .02.

[StoicRoivaS]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

In a one-wolf game, there is no sacrificing of wolves to help their side win, the lone wolf either dies or he doesn't, which makes it very very unlikely for the wolf to pull something as stupid as faking a convo, especially day 1. That said, there isn't even anything worth "faking" in his convo to begin with, and yet two people voted disco? Methinks one of them is the wolf. Shikari for being an idiot and not prefacing his vote with a safely like Gun. Although Gun saying his safety is "staying" (which is 100% not what a safety means) and that Disco has "given people reason to vote him" is exceptionally suspicious as well.

[Syhto]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

That display was pretty pitiful, but I don't find shikari suspicious, just confused. While it makes sense for a wolf to defend another player with hopes to display humanity, that reasoning was just unfounded, and way more risky than not. I mean, I know you guys are in love and everything, but maybe you should ask razor first next time~

I'm a bit taken aback by gun's reaction to disco, though. Your 'safety' is still considered a solid vote. Shikari's reason to pile another vote onto that safety doesn't necessarily have to be a good one; there is even evidence to attest to that. Why assume things when the answer is right there in your face? Hmm... It may take a little time to talk to people and have things sorted, but that's an integral part of the game.

gun

also I hope everyone manages to vote today, I'm surprised rzr hasn't even posted yet

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

I suppose I'm going to vote based on the actions of 6-7 players since people aren't posting.

I'm going to have to agree with Syhto. While both of them appear suspicious in a way, Gun seems more likely to be the wolf, in my opinion.

I don't know the frequency of item acquisition, or how the rolls are being done, but it's eating at me that we only have 1 person who is saying they had an item last night. If you had an item, and it works in the way the I think (you lose it's ability after the night phase ends) it would be in everyone's benefit for you to give us this information - you're no more a target for night kill than anyone else as you no longer possess any special abilities. On top of that if, for instance, you got the seer ability, telling us someone green has absolutely no negative effect on the game.

Even on top of that, there's absolutely no reason for a wolf to fake a green seering - there are no partner wolves to cover for.

[00Razor00]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

After talking to a majority of people on AIM, I think I have a bit of information as for my vote today.

To me, either razor is excited about having an item (trying to figure out who to use it on) or an excited wolf.

I would like for item holders to please state that you had them, and for razor to let us know if (s)he is a wolf or not. Thanks

Firstly, I'm not excited about anything. Secondly, the fact that you assume I'm a wolf, or if I have an item is rather laughable in your 'attempt' at trying to call me out. (Or so that's how I see it.)


Back on topic, after a few conversations with Rawr and Stoic, I'm gonna have to place my vote on Rawr only because, he seemed evasive with my questions pertaining to whether he was human or not, as well as little to 0 conversation that had any relevance to the game.

[rzr]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Safety on syhto

[StoicRoivaS]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Swapping to Gun to avoid possible KitB, but for the record, I still find the reactions from both of them suspicious.

Also, there's only 1 item per night, so the fact that only one person claimed one is accurate.

[RawrInc]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Back on topic, after a few conversations with Rawr and Stoic, I'm gonna have to place my vote on Rawr only because, he seemed evasive with my questions pertaining to whether he was human or not, as well as little to 0 conversation that had any relevance to the game.

When did you im me because I don't remember getting any ims from you.


Safety on Stoic.

[StoicRoivaS]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Also quick host question, I assume normal phantom rules are in effect?

Current tally by my count is:

Gun (3): Syhto, DBP, Stoic
DBP (2): Gun, Shikari
Syhto (1): rzr
Stoic (1): Rawr
Rawr (1): Razor

Left to vote: Omega

[xObserveRx]

Re: jTWG: Graduation Day

Correct, normal phantom rules are in effect.

Your tally is also correct, less than an hour remains.