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  • sertman
    DADALADAH
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2005
    • 3910

    #1

    jTWG XXI: Postgame

    Humans Win!

    MVP: x3Mamimi: for nailing the final wolves on consecutive nights

    GOAT: Fenris: telling everyone you're the seer as a human can do wonders for helping out the wolves. you're lucky there was cardflipping, otherwise you just cast doubt on the real seer and end up hurting the humans

    1. x3Mamimi (x3Mamimi) - HUMAN, won the game
    2. DarkManticorex2 (DarkManticorex2) -
    HUMAN, wolfed on Night 4

    3. Stella! (Egnigem Cenia) - WOLF, lynched Night 2
    4. X3R0H0UR (thespindokta) - SEER, won the game
    5. Fenris201327 (MrHorrible201327) - HUMAN, lynched Day 1
    6. jwcgator (jwcgator2) - HUMAN, won the game
    7. TPS222 - GUARDIAN, won the game
    8. pntballa18 (merlonifan28) - HUMAN, won the game
    9. 8Shade8 (x8Shade8x) - WOLF, lynched Day 4
    10. Nijatwo (RebelNija) - MASTER WOLF, lynched Day 3

    11. HiTheyCallMeGod (HiTheyCallMeGod) - HUMAN, wolfed Night 3
    12. Demon_Of_The_Comet (Twilights Advent) - HUMAN, wolfed Night 1


    MY PROPOSALS

    Ready for TWG: x3Mamimi, nijatwo
    Getting There: jwcgator, pntballa18, shade
    Still Needs Work: Fenris, x3r0hour, darkmanticore, hitheycallmegod
    Should Never Play Again: silver metallic

    Player by player breakdowns:

    x3Mamimi:
    Although you got on my bad side a bit early, you really proved by pegging the wolves at the end that you possess the skills for the regular TWG. You single-handedly won the game for the humans, otherwise it would have been a massacre
    DarkManticorex2: You played a decent game... some of the stuff you said was wrong but really you kind of hung back. You didn't really bring many new ideas to the floor, which is why I think you need some more work.
    Stella!: You got unlucky that you were seered, but I'll have more on that later.
    x3r0H0uR: For a first time player, you did very well as the seer. You were always very prompt and I would usually get a PM from you within minutes of the end of the day. I like that, and I hope that you blossom into an active TWG player. However, next time, if you seer a wolf the first night as you did with stella, SAY SOMETHING, lol.
    Fenris: see the GOAT
    jwcgator: You bandwagoned a whole lot in this game, which kind of sucked. From an outsider prospective, it seemed very suspicious. You're lucky that Mamimi stuck up for you, otherwise I think you would have been lynched somewhere along the line.
    Silver Metallic: You were the ****ING GUARDIAN. There is NO EXCUSE for you to be so inactive, ESPECIALLY with the seer out. Also, when you DID send me a PM, you weren't even guarding the seer. That's garbage. Hell, I even told you in the guardian PM that it was a good idea for you to guard the seer if he came out, and you ignored it.
    TPS: When i was talking to you on AIM, you said that you had it narrowed down to nija and shade. Why didn't you stick with your gut instead of overthinking it, especially when you saw that nija turned up a wolf? You're very lucky that x3Mamimi swayed enough votes and nobody bought into your theory, otherwise your name would have been next to the "GOAT", especially after Shade's very telling post. You're a vet: I expected you to immediately see through shade as soon as he said "Well why would I ever vote for a wolf as a wolf?".
    pntballa: You did a fine job of defending yourself against a stronger player's attacks. I like that . You didn't really wilt under the pressure, but you were on the chopping block a few times, and you stuck up for yourself nicely.
    8Shade8: Didn't really play a great game as a wolf, but it's understandable with the conversation I'm about to post.
    nijatwo: Of all people, I didn't expect for you to be the one who missed the whole point of a jTWG. Here's a conversation I had with Stella! after she was seered.
    alextp1651 (9:44:19 PM): you were actually seered night 1
    Egnigem Cenia (9:44:21 PM): I know it. I knew he would seer me first.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:44:22 PM): The jerk.
    alextp1651 (9:44:31 PM): haha
    Egnigem Cenia (9:44:30 PM): But I really don't mind.
    alextp1651 (9:44:46 PM): do you know him?
    Egnigem Cenia (9:44:41 PM): I kinda didn't want to play a game with Nija and God and JWC.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:44:45 PM): No, I was kidding.
    alextp1651 (9:44:53 PM): ah
    Egnigem Cenia (9:45:00 PM): I kind of wanted to play a game with just noobs like myself. You know..?
    Egnigem Cenia (9:45:05 PM): But I guess I can't escape.
    alextp1651 (9:45:13 PM): well
    alextp1651 (9:45:22 PM): i don't think hitheycallmegod has played before
    Egnigem Cenia (9:45:25 PM): No, he has.
    alextp1651 (9:45:39 PM): oh
    Egnigem Cenia (9:45:36 PM): He said so somewhere.. He said he had a different account somewhere or something.
    alextp1651 (9:45:48 PM): well the only other ones with experience are jwc and nija
    alextp1651 (9:45:53 PM): dotc has too but he got wolfed
    alextp1651 (9:46:11 PM): it's a good thing that there are people with experience though
    alextp1651 (9:46:15 PM): otherwise the game falls apart
    alextp1651 (9:46:31 PM): the humans are screwed to the max right now because they have no leadership besides nija, who's going to lead them astray
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:29 PM): Yeah but I got stuck on a team with Nija and really nothing I did was anything of my own choice.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:33 PM): Except for being inactive.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:39 PM): Yeah but that sucks.
    alextp1651 (9:46:52 PM): no, it's good for oyu
    alextp1651 (9:46:55 PM): you want the humans to lose
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:48 PM): Nija was telling me what to do and how to post.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:57 PM): I know that, but I want the humans to lose because of something I did.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:46:58 PM): Not Nija.
    Egnigem Cenia (9:47:04 PM): Nija's playing this game by himself, you know?
    Egnigem Cenia (9:47:17 PM): Nobody has any idea what to do and that's lucky for him only because this is his game.

    alextp1651 (9:47:26 PM): i see what you're saying
    I think that convo pretty much speaks for itself. Take what you want out of it: what I took out of it was you told them to be so dependant on you, they didn't know what to do. In all honesty, they probably would have been better off without you. The fact that they didn't even send in a kill because you weren't there really shows that they weren't learning anything from being under your belt, so to speak. You seemed to be out to win, not to train, and that isn't the point of this game.
    HiTheyCallMeGod: You lucked out in having the greatest story exit in TWG history, and the game you played was alright. You were kind of quiet, which I didn't really expect from you.
    Demon_Of_The_Comet: You did alright considering you were wolfed night 1, lol

    Overall, I saw a lot of room for improvement, but also a lot of potential. I hope some of the vets weigh in on this too. This was a very interesting game.
    Last edited by sertman; 02-5-2007, 09:27 PM.

  • x3Mamimi
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2006
    • 513

    #2
    Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

    Hot.
    jwcgator: mah mee mee
    merlonifan28: fight for my love, mamimi

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    • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 1206

      #3
      Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

      I know I'm not the perfect host, but..

      Originally posted by sertman
      just kidding i'll start it now, no story because there doesn't need to be one for this

      It is now DAY 2. Wolves did not send me a PM, therefore there was no night kill. Day ends Tuesday at 8:00 EST
      I'm pretty sure you're supposed to say 'no kill,' or something of the sort.

      Originally posted by sertman
      That was DBP, not you.
      See the next one V

      Originally posted by sertman
      x3Mamimi (3:02:39 PM): Hey, it's DBP
      x3Mamimi (3:02:55 PM): If you're there, you should respond.
      alextp1651 (3:03:03 PM): yo
      x3Mamimi (3:03:18 PM): Don't tell me who/why you haven't got PM's, but..
      x3Mamimi (3:03:38 PM): The rule generally is that if you don't get the PM within 24 hours (I don't know that it was 24, I'm assuming) that they lose their chance to preform their night action.
      x3Mamimi (3:04:05 PM): Yeah, it's been 27 by my clock.
      It's not your place to prove a participants' humanity. You should have brought that up with her privately.


      Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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      • sertman
        DADALADAH
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jun 2005
        • 3910

        #4
        Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

        And all of that is very important and worth bringing up in the postgame

        oh wait

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        • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 1206

          #5
          Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

          Without criticism, problems are solved less frequently.


          Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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          • x3Mamimi
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 513

            #6
            Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

            I've been waiting to bring a lot of it up until the post game.


            By posting that conversation you were compromising my credibility. You were trying to discredit my claim. I used the fact that it was my idea to have the wolves lose their kill as my defense and you were trying to make me look suspicious.

            I'm pretty positive the host isn't supposed to play the game..
            Last edited by x3Mamimi; 02-5-2007, 09:40 PM.
            jwcgator: mah mee mee
            merlonifan28: fight for my love, mamimi

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            • sertman
              DADALADAH
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2005
              • 3910

              #7
              Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

              and either of you could have talked to me on AIM about it

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              • nijatwo
                FFR Player
                • May 2006
                • 312

                #8
                Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                My Proposals:
                Still needs a jtwg before he ever hosts/plays again: sertman
                @ sertman: point of a jtwg is to learn how to play. If you notice, day 1 we all humped one player. I saw that and went "wtf is this ****. lets talk about how not be a /b/tard."

                @ stella:
                You were flipping your **** about "omg why the hell are these people in the game, what do I do?!" and I answered the question. I told you not to be an idiot. There's nothing you can do about a night 1 seering, so don't blame it on me. =)

                @shade- almost made it, he had a lot of good things to say in the discussions on kills.

                @humans (except mamimi): way to miss my OBVIOUS inactivity on the night sertman posted we didn't send in a kill.

                Minus hosting error, pretty good game.

                Props to pntball, shade, mamimi.
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                • nijatwo
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2006
                  • 312

                  #9
                  Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                  Originally posted by sertman
                  x3Mamimi (3:02:39 PM): Hey, it's DBP
                  x3Mamimi (3:02:55 PM): If you're there, you should respond.
                  alextp1651 (3:03:03 PM): yo
                  x3Mamimi (3:03:18 PM): Don't tell me who/why you haven't got PM's, but..
                  x3Mamimi (3:03:38 PM): The rule generally is that if you don't get the PM within 24 hours (I don't know that it was 24, I'm assuming) that they lose their chance to preform their night action.
                  x3Mamimi (3:04:05 PM): Yeah, it's been 27 by my clock.
                  Originally posted by sertman
                  and either of you could have talked to me on AIM about it
                  Sertman, I said it before on aim, I said it again in the thread. You shouldn't have hosted this game.
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                  • sertman
                    DADALADAH
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 3910

                    #10
                    Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                    And you shouldn't have played in it. Neither should I have.

                    Making the wolves so useless that they couldn't even send in a kill without your guidance says wonders.

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                    • nijatwo
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2006
                      • 312

                      #11
                      Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                      Originally posted by me
                      I'm not going to be online these next two days. You guys decide on a wolf kill and go ahead and send it in to sertman via pm. I would advise against killing hitheycallme or jwc, and I think it would be a good idea to go for you to go for a potential guardian or someone who was suspicious of a human. (this makes people think that the suspicious player might have been on the right track, so it throws thoughts to other people (ie not us)). Shade, I was being a dick to you in the thread because I'm a dick to everyone in the thread ^^. Gl;hf.


                      Sent this to them a day in advance. Had nothing to do with me being controlling, always left it up to them actually.
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                      • sertman
                        DADALADAH
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 3910

                        #12
                        Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                        ok. i apologize, nija

                        yes i did make some mistakes hosting, but i still think that it was a good game.

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                        • sertman
                          DADALADAH
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 3910

                          #13
                          Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                          by the way the only guardian pick all game was sent to me by silver metallic after i kicked him out of the game

                          i found that very depressing

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                          • nijatwo
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2006
                            • 312

                            #14
                            Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                            You're damn right it was a good game. People learned how to play, even with all the hosting/inactivity **** ups (me included). Just because some are first timers does not mean you do anything different as host. it's the responsibility of the players to make the decisions.
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                            • sertman
                              DADALADAH
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 3910

                              #15
                              Re: jTWG XXI: Postgame

                              well if i ever host again it'll be a TWG and it'll be a while from now so i doubt me ****ing this up again won't happen again

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