jTWG XVII Chat Fallouts

[FishFishRevolution]

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Hey guys, just let me get some sleep and then I'll make a really sweet post tomorrow (today) about everything put together.

[mattc16]

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forgot to vote, bollocks.

sorry guys, like i said before, my main suspicions were tasuke and whiteflame, and now white is gone, i'm gonna vote Tasuke

[FishFishRevolution]

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Will someone please care to inform me how I could even POSSIBLY be a wolf? It would be just sort of helpful to eliminate me as a suspicion from all your minds so we can focus on the real wolves.

[Lightknight924]

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It's probably because you're so good that the wolves like Tasuke fear you so they want you lynched.

[chickendude]

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Tasuke is being way too blunt

he's not like that as a wolf
I'm not sure what the deal is, but either way, he seems to be pretty crazy right now
He's gone to plaid

[Lightknight924]

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Why does Tasuke want Fish out so quickly? Tasuke was agreeing with Fish on almost everything he said in the chat when we were discussing our suspicions over Observer. Now suddenly he wants Fish gone.

[FishFishRevolution]

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BREAKIN IT DOWN LIKE SGX BUSHUPSSHUPBUPPBUSBPUSUHSUP

Yeah let's analyze the kills and try to figure out who would do could fit all three.

Iggy
Iggy was a pretty obvious kill, just like everyone said, so I could see almost everyone picking him. - Lightknight924, xObserveRx, Neonatrias, Pumble, mattc16, chickendude, Necamus, Tasuke, FishFishRevolution, PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR

FishFishRevolution
This could have been attempted by either stupid noobs or pseudo tricky vets. - Lightknight924, xObserveRx, rsr2, Tasuke, dawg4321, PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR

gonzo
Finally, gonzo, the inactive player. This looks to me like either a confusion kill, an uninformed kill, or a frame-job kill. - Lightknight924, Neonatrias, Pumble, mattc16, rsr2, chickendude, dawg4321

So who's on all the lists? Lightknight, hmmmm... Well I guess we could include some of the people who weren't in the first list because they could've had a partner who knew iggy would make a good night 1 kill. rsr2 comes to mind just because lightknight was defending him day 1, or dawg. Now my gut trusts lightknight and rsr pretty firmly, but the more I think about it, the more lightknight being a wolf would make sense.

As far as tasuke goes, there's no way he's a wolf because of how bold he's being. No wolf does that, ever. I'm placing an initial vote on lightknight which will probably not change unless significant evidence is brought to light.

Oh and if i'm wrong, and you think wouldn't have made the kill you're labeled under, post why.

[FishFishRevolution]

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Yes, I got the PM. I trust it to be true.

GG sad saw.

(wasdasdf backwards is fdsadsaw) ; ) (Pumble came up with that)

[Pumble]

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yeah i'm pretty clever

Uh, ok, i've talked it over with peoples, and i'm going to have to vote lightknight for now. Looking at his post history in this thread, i'm noticing that he's been going mostly for the easy targets (trying to turn suspicion towards Tasuke for his first couple posts and voting whiteflame along with the others after fish made his post about it) and not providing much evidence as to why he's voting them. Currently, i'd like to hear a little more explanation on the Tasuke vote, because he's really not coming off to me as a wolf with his gung-ho attitude.

[Tasuke]

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So Fish convinces everyone to lynch chromer.
The n he is successfully gaurded, which happens how often in jTWG?
The everyone once again bandwagons white with Fish.
Gonzo is wolfed.

I'm thinking Gonzo was a special role that came out to Fish(who is a wolf)
and was wolfed accordingly. Did Fish ever say that he was human? I know it doesn't mean much if he did ever say it or not. But you guys all think that he's some sort of god. When he could have killed the psychic or whatever chromer could have been. Fish could make mistakes too. So there must be like six people in the alliance now, right Fish?

[dawg4321]

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Am i the only one with suspicions of chickendude?

[Neonatrias]

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Tasuke, was it you that kept getting on Fish's back about who was in the alliance? I think it was.

I don't have the time tags, but this is taken from the chat that took place on the 8th.

insanelikeafish:that was only one point
insanelikeafish:that i made
tasuke1382: so I'm surprised he was lynched
insanelikeafish:he was playing text book day one wolf
tasuke1382: and it's been why I've been suspicious of you
insanelikeafish:i see
tasuke1382: textbook?
insanelikeafish:standard
tasuke1382: i know what textbook means
tasuke1382: how?
insanelikeafish:doing all the things wolves do on day one
tasuke1382: and who is the other person in the alliance fish?
insanelikeafish:all the little things people don't always notice
insanelikeafish:why would i say that?
tasuke1382: why not?
tasuke1382: proving another person's humanity?
insanelikeafish:because it exposes their identity
insanelikeafish:and they will be wolfed
insanelikeafish:are you a ****ing ass?
tasuke1382: the wolves could wolf anybody
insanelikeafish:they will wolf alliance members when given the opportunity
tasuke1382: the wolves already know who is a human
Lightknight924: but they don't know who's a blue
insanelikeafish:they will wolf who is seen to be human
insanelikeafish:right
insanelikeafish:thank you lk
Lightknight924: no problem
tasuke1382: light shut up
tasuke1382: seriously

Now. This bothered me at the time, and I can't stop seeing something wrong with it. But I was ready to shrug it off when...

tasuke1382: Chickendude seems pretty wolfy to me
VulpesApocalypse: GG changing the topic.
insanelikeafish:a lot of people say that too
insanelikeafish:i don't see it
tasuke1382: i thought we were done
VulpesApocalypse: But okay. Chickendude. How shall we start?
insanelikeafish:let's hear the evidence
tasuke1382: he's been doing a bit of posting day one
tasuke1382: and then just pittered out
insanelikeafish:same as observer
tasuke1382: like what you have against observer
VulpesApocalypse: No, he made a case against Observer today.
Lightknight924: I was talking to him. He defended rsr to by saying how he related to rsr in his early games
insanelikeafish:i know
Lightknight924: brb food
VulpesApocalypse: Hm...I don't see it. Chickendude's walking a fine line, but he hasn't fallen off it yet.
insanelikeafish:i'm hungry too D=
insanelikeafish:hold on
Lightknight924: back
insanelikeafish:i'm going to assume that chromer wasn't a wolf
tasuke1382: Fish it's a 5-person alliance right?
insanelikeafish:not saying
Lightknight924: why do you care so much Tasuke?
tasuke1382: just wondering
tasuke1382: jesus
insanelikeafish:i'm going to assume that chromer wasn't a wolf, and re read the thread
insanelikeafish:give me a minute
Lightknight924: If the gaurdian and seer and psychic are on it and your a human then you have nothing to worry about
insanelikeafish:see who comes off suspicious
insanelikeafish:ugh
tasuke1382: light I'm just wondering

He brings it up once again. Out of nowhere. I don't know...Tasuke, to me, has looked like he's consistently tried to remain very much out in the open, and very much active. Which may or may not be grounds for suspicion, depending on how you see it, I guess. But personally, it bugs me. Tasuke.

[FishFishRevolution]

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Okay guys, let me see if I can settle all your fears and suspicions. Here's everything I think is safe to make public at this point, mostly because it's almost all known. At the beginning of day 2, the seer came out to me, telling me I had been seered a human. He also said he had seered iggy the night before, which ended up being a waste. Shortly following that, the guardian came out to me as well. Last night the seer saw a human, who has not yet been informed of this fact.

By a process of elimination, I have narrowed the wolves down to three people. We know Chromer was a wolf thanks to the psychic (if some of you didn't get sad saw's PM, he said Chromer was a wolf and whiteflame wasn't, which is what I already assumed). Now, one of those people is lightknight, but if he doesn't get over here to defend himself, we might waste another day.

Let me say this though, and let me make it perfectly clear:

TASUKE IS NOT ONE OF THOSE THREE, STOP VOTING HIM.

Please take your votes off tasuke, not only is he being too aggressive and dissenting for a wolf's behavior, but he's already been eliminated as a wolf by voting patterns and aim grilling. I would just seer him to find out for sure, but at this point I want to seer wolves, not humans; it would be a waste.

[FishFishRevolution]

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insanelikeafish:are you a ****ing ass?

Hahahahaha I was in the chat while watching the juggernaut video.

EDIT: Oh about my schedule today, because it's weird. I have class from 4-7PM EST, and then I'm driving 45 mins to a friend's house for the night, where I'll be on AIM for probably at most an hour to talk TWG. So expect me to be around the hour before the deadline tonight (9PM EST, right?) to finalize my vote and talk with people. I WANT A LOT OF YOU ON TONIGHT PLEEEAAASSEEEE just in case we have to swing votes or new evidence comes to light.

[mattc16]

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ok, Neonatrias.

NB This is a placeholder vote just to get off tasuke. This vote will change later.