TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

[blahblah18]

Ok everyone, so this thread is so everyone has the ability to voice their concerns and problems with anything TWC related. If anyone has suggestions or improvements, they should be brought forth here so they can be openly discussed in a forum that can be shown to be seen.

I don't want to see ANY FLAMING OR PERSONAL ATTACKS in here whatsoever. This is not the place for that at all!

Things decided have been that profanity should be removed from the TWG games. Even though we are on average much older then the rest of the community, we should still hold and adhere to the standards then even more so then the rest of the community. there is no need whatsoever to spend the time to go around the filter system already instantiated.

Bypassing this system results in 1 phantom for each usage. Also, to help enforce the usage of participation in the game, we have decided that for every phantom you receive over 1 in a game, that you get a 1 game ban.

e.g 2 phantoms = 1 game ban 3 phantoms = 2 game ban.

Self-voting is not a viable solution and is not allowed. Self voting will not be viewed as an actually counted vote.

If there is anything else that needs discussing, please mention it and we shall discuss it.

Thank you, and I hope that this can become a viable alternative to the lack of coordination that has existed in the past.

[Afrobean]

RE: TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

The thing about TWC is this: I think it should be democratic. I say we should scrap the current team and have members elected. Sure, it would probably end up being nearly all the same people, but it would be better because it would have been a group decision.

[Tps222]

RE: TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

What about quitting a game? 2 game ban?

[HansSky]

Re: TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

Things decided have been that profanity should be removed from the TWG games.

Completely, or do you just mean "do not bypass the swear filter?"

[blahblah18]

RE: Re: TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

I mean do not bypass the swear filter.

and quitting a game gets you a 2 game ban.

Thus it was written, so it shall be done

[Afrobean]

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I just thought of something else important.

Talking with the dead. Tass (hell, I even thought about doing it this past game...) has used it on at least a few occasions to obtain information not actually relating to the game, but which can affect the way you think of things in said game (see the last game where Tps and I were wolves together. Tps posted a convo with Kilga, who was dead at the time, which was blatantly fake. Tass contacted Kilga and asked about Tps' explanation of a long running injoke between them and based on Kilga's responses, Tass was able to discern that Tps was lying.)

I think that anyone talking to the dead with any such intentions should be dealt with in some negative fashion. It's really not fair.

[Tps222]

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I think some kind of scoring system would boost people's activity. While I would like pips back, it probably won't happen. A team-based scoring system would be nice. You recieve a certain amount of points for tasks completed ie: Guarded someone=3 point, Wolfed a blue = 3 points, Seer'd a wolf = 3 points. I'm pretty sure someone like Chardish established a fair one in some thread a while back. It should get put into play.

Then a leaderboard could be established. An overall point total, then points in certain categories, make the game competitive again. I'm sure it would renew people's interests. Every 10 games, the top 10 pointholders could go into some all-star type game(Not sure how that would work out), possibly some tournament. MVP's should be re-established again. We need an actual circuit or league, 22 games are enough practice; we need to gets serious. This means that jTWG could serve a better purpose. Not only can it teach the game, it will not have a point system introduced into it. Then, the vets who don't feel like playing a ranked game can go play fun one, which would benefit the new players as well (A new batch of players around the community would be nice).

I'm just brainstorming here, but I feel that if this was added, people would get more into these games. Display your rank from the leaderboard in some sort of sig type thing. Bans and non met post requirements, along with phantoms, will negate points from your total. Titles could be established. Have this many points, get "TWG Vet" as a title. I guess this is similar in a way to the pip-system, but much more team based. Special titles could be availble as well "TWG's Best Guardian" etc. Then, after every 5 games, people could vote titles to people "MVP", "Most Logical" "Most Helpful" etc. Give me some feedback on this idea people.

[mead1]

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I agree with TPS. People would probably be more driven to win with some sort of point system. However, an "All Star" Kind of thing would probably be taking it a little bit too far. If some kind of point system was created, to avoid what the pips did (Put personal victory over the team victory), it would have to award based on keeping your comrades alive.

[Tps222]

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I'm searching for Chardish's list.

[QreepyBORIS]

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Aww. Self voting is gone? I think I invented that in game 2 or 3. Shame. I also was the first to ask if faking an AIM conversation was legal (it was), but I never did it.

So, I like the new phantom rule, though. And the dropping out thing is nice, too. This is all after the fact, right? Fish and the rest won't get punished, right?

All-star games? Tournaments? Dude, we only have so many players. I don't really think that's viable, unless we take TWG public, which would be a little bit goofy, since all the newbs would come in asking why they got banned from the chat. =/

A points system could be good, but I don't know how representative it would be. There would have to be lots of arbitrary things in it, too, such as getting yourself off deathrow in favor of someine else. But that's subjective, so...

I think that having team victory pips would be appropriate.

[Tps222]

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http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hlight=#449377

I'm pretty sure Chardish can adapt his from there to fit our needs.

[talisman]

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I hereby propose that a 4 post per day minimum be instituted, void in the instance of an instalynch or if extenuating circumstances arise (ie blah's mobo frying, or whatever that was). The 4 posts would have to be of some quality, and the host would have discretion over whether or not a post was quality. Quality wouldn't have to mean like a four paragraph essay, some quality posts might be as few as two sentences or something, all up to the host. Multiple posting or an obvious attempt to double post your way to get four wouldn't count, unless the host thinks it should. (Sometimes people like to split big posts into two posts about different things, or sometimes a post might come up while you're typing that is unrelated to what you were typing, and thus a new post as opposed to an edit is more appropriate.)

If a player fails to meet the four post minimum they are removed from the game without replacement. This means that there will be a peer pressure element to make sure everyone meets it or else the game ends a day sooner, something humans do not want. And no wolf would obviously ever like to lose one of their own to inactivity.

[Tps222]

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Breaking the post requirement should produce an additional 1 game ban, and there banned status in the title of the Username: ("Banned from TWG:1 game")

[talisman]

RE: Re: TWC, Everyone Else... Everyone Else, TWC

No need to be overly harsh... the crap you'd get from everyone else would be enough reprimand.

[QreepyBORIS]

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TWC is in the beginning of the topic title. It is also at the end of the topic title. TWC is the alpha and the omega? Are you relating yourselves to gods? Are you equating yourself to God? What are your intentions? It this tricky subversion?