On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

Maybe a jTWG Turbo could be a thing

[XelNya]

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I think if I keep coming in here, I'm going to get to a point where I just lose my shit like I always do. I actually can't take it.

I'm just gonna bow out.

Was fun I guess.

[Shadow_God_10]

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I think if I keep coming in here, I'm going to get to a point where I just lose my shit like I always do. I actually can't take it.

I'm just gonna bow out.

Was fun I guess.

Dawg you better fucking sign up for the next game. We have memeing to do.

[mellonxcollie]

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what ground has been made in this thread realistically?

I still don't get what the actual problem is, or the solution being proposed

this honestly just seems like drama at this point ngl

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

what ground has been made in this thread realistically?

I still don't get what the actual problem is, or the solution being proposed

this honestly just seems like drama at this point ngl

This

[T-Force]

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Re: Among Us, I know that's actually encouraged a friend to play (again. They played one game several years ago. I wonder if anyone can figure out who).
With that said, a jTWG-esque Turbo, or just a basic Turbo would be cool to roll, imo. I know I'd sign up for it.

[Shadow_God_10]

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Re: Among Us, I know that's actually encouraged a friend to play (again. They played one game several years ago. I wonder if anyone can figure out who).
With that said, a jTWG-esque Turbo, or just a basic Turbo would be cool to roll, imo. I know I'd sign up for it.

What I was thinking was a jTWG turbo with all the fresh recruits we have

We watch and cackle in delight as they argue with each other and vote town off one by one until the wolf gets tired of pulling the charade and gives up

[T-Force]

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Funny thing is that's happened.. a wolf actually committed seppuku in F3 because of the stress. Either that or it was a town.

Either way, watching the all Team Quebec F3 end that way was shocking, to say the least.

[the sun fan]

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You're fucking kidding right?

Is everyone here five? Two? How old is everyone? Maybe fresh out?

That's what it feels like.

How can no one read those posts and understand the amount of intentionally blowing it out of proportion for effect those posts are? It's not toxic, it's hyperbole.

I thought reading between the lines was a game mechanic, apparently everyone here is shockingly shit at it.

An actual pity imho.

I'm not kidding
lambast me all you want, its not good for the environment of the games

[the sun fan]

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Fair enough. Wasn't meaning to misrepresent anything in my post.
He was still agreed upon as being too much by the community.



Can you tell us what you mean by "move forward with"? It's still a bit vague.

I mean like
its a hard question to answer, and it'll still always be vague

but I do want a general shift towards just being decent people inside the game, that's the simplest way I can put it

[Shadow_God_10]

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I mean like
its a hard question to answer, and it'll still always be vague

but I do want a general shift towards just being decent people inside the game, that's the simplest way I can put it

Does this involve more memeing or less memeing?

I am serious about my Rias Gremory post.

[Bolth mannn]

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

what ground has been made in this thread realistically?

I still don't get what the actual problem is, or the solution being proposed

this honestly just seems like drama at this point ngl

No ground is being made because the people who the thread is targeting are refusing to find fault in their ways and the people who recognise the problem aren’t able to identify a realistic solution.

I really echo what Makilaz has been suggesting, and agree a lot with what Roundbox posted as well.

Could it be as simple as disallowing personal insults? I’m sure there’s negatives to this too, but for sake of coming up with a tangible solution, I’ll start here I guess.

[roundbox]

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I feel like very little has been done in engaging with my post. Let me roll my sleeves up a bit

First, for those that did respond: thanks. FG, to answer your question, pointed and cutthroat play used to be the rule, not the exception. Over time, I feel like it's become the exception, not the rule of general player behaviour.

Now, can we try and engage some of the points I've made? I feel like things are moving forward without nearly any consideration of my contributions.
-We've agreed unanimously as a community when certain people are stepping far out of line
-Overt rudeness and harshness, I feel, has decreased
-As a previous offender, I pointed to my downward trend of spiciness. Deadchats, as they stand, are breeding grounds for personal attacks.
-Getting heated and emotional is anticipated in a longer game. How do we draw the line to moderate this? Is it even something we can define?
-Implicit bias controls the hierarchy of vote/read importance. There is a clear divide in newness/experience. Perceived skill/lack of skill. Male/female or other. As someone who occupies the beneficial side of all these equations, I look back on situations where I've not believed someone's read or taken as seriously as another due to some of these.

I don't know. That's really how I feel at this point. This whole thing just feels like decisions are being made in the background without too much being said in this thread. My understanding is that at least one person in the game had a bad time. Maybe this is wrong, but work with me here as I'm in the dark. There are absolutely, unequivocally, zero problems with someone having a problem with another user's behaviour. I've had chats with TWG mods about individual players, so I've been there. However, this was dealt with in private. Why this thread? It just feels like we're putting Lewdy, Lar, and Xel on display. Why not talk to them in private? Why does this have to be aired out here with people taking potshots and low blows?

The thread started off by proposing adding another mod. Now we're up to adding two more? Where did this come from? It seems like conversations going on outside of this thread are influencing decisions and not what's being discussed here. I feel like what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears.

-What is the idea moving forward? This is still not clear. I've only heard "more mods," but what specific aspects of behaviour or code of conduct content is being pondered?
-To achieve meaningful change, first, you must have acknowledgement. After that, you can discuss solutions. I don't feel like we've hit either of these stages.

I don't want FFR to die. Hell, I submitted a 13 player game to Freezin earlier. Please, someone, elucidate me.

[Shadow_God_10]

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No ground is being made because the people who the thread is targeting are refusing to find fault in their ways and the people who recognise the problem aren’t able to identify a realistic solution.

I really echo what Makilaz has been suggesting, and agree a lot with what Roundbox posted as well.

Could it be as simple as disallowing personal insults? I’m sure there’s negatives to this too, but for sake of coming up with a tangible solution, I’ll start here I guess.

This begs the question of "what's a personal insult?" which is a can of worms that I'm sure no one really cares to open.

Like generally saying "You're an idiot, lmao" is not an insult

Telling someone "Your IQ is so fucking low, I'd have to give you a shovel and three weeks in order for you to find a single point" is an insult.

[mellonxcollie]

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the people who the thread is targeting

yet twg posts are toxic