Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

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robertsona i got some criticism for you.....shut up. just because your not skilled enough to step dragonforce doesn't mean they suck. what amazing simfiles have you made btw....oh right you haven't but i'm sure any you do make will be to vocals only and i bet you would still find a way to get those wrong as well.....

uh try playing 300 in ffr. yeah now go sync that ****. robertsona stepped that.

[trumaestro]

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just because your not skilled enough to step dragonforce

Power metal like dragonforce takes very little skill to step accurately as compared to other, better song selections.

300 is a cool file and is better than every file in this pack. (not DL'ing)

[Patashu]

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uh try playing 300 in ffr. yeah now go sync that ****. robertsona stepped that.

actually 300's bpm changes are predictable

iirc it's 10 bpm every 4? 8? measures

hard as **** to sync would be like piano with lots of deep keys

the most work I've done on syncing myself would be most of the dark eternal night (cut) (needed just a bit of help from rebirth with sorting out the 24th part) and like a minute and a bit of drove through ghosts to get here
oh yeah and I stepped like two minutes of stream of consciousness (live at budokai ver) then stopped and never went back to it again HeHe
you know because you need to know this essential trivia

[Necros140606]

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let me tell you one thing dude. i like dargonforz, i like fast guitarzs, i ilke 200 bpmz, and seriously talking i personally think SOME dragonforce songs would make good files. what i don't understand is why you're so stubborn and you aren't taking the criticism people already gave you. if you still don't know how to step files correctly, don't act like you can. if your work isn't considered very good (it's not terrible either at least) don't call your friend to counterattack because this way you'll automatically fail. i understand where you come from but now let's change our mind about stepping songs with only one layer, shall we?

overall this pack deserved the actual award:

[N.T.M.]

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300 is a cool file and is better than every file in this pack. (not DL'ing)

Is that the file with the light up graphics and multiple tempo increases? I loved that file =P.

Hmmm... just like I feared: this seems to be turning into a flame war. Seems like somehow DF always promotes this stuff . *sigh* Oh well.

This is kinda o/t, but does anybody know a band that you can layer everything without overstepping the file? I'm thinking maybe something techno-like but not too repetative. Any ideas?

robertsona i got some criticism for you.....shut up. just because your not skilled enough to step dragonforce doesn't mean they suck. what amazing simfiles have you made btw....oh right you haven't but i'm sure any you do make will be to vocals only and i bet you would still find a way to get those wrong as well.....

Despite some replies coming off very rude, many people are quite capable steppers. I'd be slower with the accusations.

[EnR]

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uh try playing 300 in ffr. yeah now go sync that ****. robertsona stepped that.

Don't use 300 as an example, it's complete **** rofl.

[Necros140606]

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This is kinda o/t, but does anybody know a band that you can layer everything without overstepping the file? I'm thinking maybe something techno-like but not too repetative. Any ideas?

it's not about the band. there are songs in which you can pick two or three instruments at time, songs that are better with only two instruments, songs that give the best results when you only step one instrument. this theory does not apply to the whole lenght though, so you need to be careful when selceting what to step in any given section of the song. if you don't understand this concept take a look of files that are generally considered good in the latest stepmania packs (not ffr not keyboard ultimix not community revival etc)

[kommisar[os]]

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nobody has the community revival pack anyways haha. best examples would be kil's thermosphere, aperson's tranzport etc.

[ssbmchamp]

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what i don't understand is why you're so stubborn and you aren't taking the criticism people already gave you.

I'm assuming you are addressing me with this quote. Well I can take constructive criticism no problem, because that's what will help someone get better. What I can't take, and especially can't stand, is the meaningless **** robertsona said where he basically gave a list saying which measures he thought were impossible for spread.....I find 2 things funny with his quote about that: 1) I play spread and find nothing "impossible" about any of those spots...sure they may be hard, but just because you can't hit every note doesn't mean you have to cry about it and declare them as "impossible" 2) I have never played "300" by robertsona but I have a good feeling it's probably alot harder overall than just the few measures he mentioned in this pack, yet assuming it is harder, you would never hear him complain about that.....in fact everything robertsona said previously in this thread were simply opinions, and based on everything he said, especially when he was demanding that the vocals be stepped, that alone tells me that there is no way he is some god of a sim artist as you people make him out to be...Stepping vocals in MOST songs is pretty lame and requires no skill at all...


Oh and can someone post me a link of where i can get 300. I'm not playing it on FFR b/c my computer tends to lag on the site, but if there is a version I can download for stepmania let me know.

[ssbmchamp]

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A Flame For Freedom:
I have one thing to say.
HOLY CRAP STEP SOMETHING OTHER THAN GUITARS.

...it's called a piano dumbass

STEP THE VOCALS.
This file is really easy and boring because you don't choose to step ANYTHING other than vocals.

...majority of the song is 8th notes and vocals would be no different as well

Heartbreak Armageddon
IMO it'd be kinda cool if the BPM was doubled at m27. At m39, I slowed it down.

do you enjoy ruining good files?

From m95-m101 the 16ths are basically inaudible (or whatever you are stepping).

...get a hearing aid

m103 is almost impossible for spread players, as is m109. m111 and m112 is cool, the jacks are PR but really really hard. Same with m115 and m116. Step drums at m117. m122 isn't correct; close, but not correct. Check it again. m123 and m124 are actually 32nds, not 24ths (even though that would be ****ing impossible). m131 is really hard for spread players. As is m135. AND HOLY CRAP m141 and m142 are IMPOSSIBLE for spread players. m177 and m178 is impossible for spread players. m179 would also be really hard. m234 is cool, some parts might be off, but good sync. m258 is impossible AND technically incorrect. m285 and m286 are really hard, and the left-down-left-down-left-down-etc. trill is impossible for spread players. m290 is impossible for spread players. m312 is impossible for spread players, and technically incorrect. m320 and m321 would be very hard for spread players. As is m337.

just because you suck doesn't mean others can't do well

SONG IS WAY TOO LONG.

so is your list of meaningless complaints...

It's really generic too.

...

So far my opinion is that you are incapable of stepping anything other than guitars, which makes your files generic and boring.

i guess all the correctly stepped drum rolls just didn't exist to you...

The files aren't too great so far; I don't like them.

Mommy I can't do well on these songs because they are above my skill level.

[robertsona]

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Okay.
So I type out a ****ing essay to help you with the stepping.
You just try to "rip it apart".
OH OKAY SORRY ABOUT TRYING TO HELP.
You are a ****ing idiot who can't admit anything's wrong with his files.
Guess what?
Your files aren't perfect.
If you're going to take any criticism you get and shove it up your ass then you shouldn't make files, or at least not release them.
NTM was actually cool about this, he took his criticism.
Sure, he may not have agreed with everything, but at least he took it in a polite way.
While you, ssbmchamp, oh-so-mighty-perfect stepper in the universe, oh no, YOUR FILES ARE PEERRRRFFEEEECCCTTT.
Stop being an immature bitch who can't admit he's wrong about anything.
Okay fine maybe some people can do left-handed trills at 190 BPM, but how about just replacing them with other trills? It's technically the same unless you're going for PR, and it's easier for people who can't do them.
Also, to your "Mommy I can't do well" comment:
I can't FC my own file (300). I am completely against rating files based on whether you are good at them or not.
I just thought those trills might be really fast.
If people CAN do them, disregard my comment.
I don't usually play spread, and I just hear not to use left-right-handed trills in files, especially at fast speeds like 190.
Who the **** are you to flame me, you ****ing moron?
How about learn to take criticism before you post.
I'm sorry if I'm trying to help you with stepping, didn't know that was a crime.
****ing jerk.
EDIT: Also "not skilled enough to step dragonforce" LMFAOOOOOO hahahahaha.
EDIT2: Also wow I just saw Gehodra's comment yeah I wouldn't count "..." and "no" as criticism but nice try maybe come back when you don't have your head up your ass.
EDIT3:
EDIT4: That being said, I'm going to go on reviewing. I'm going to ignore any comment that isn't helpful about my reviews; I don't give a **** anymore.
Heroes Of Our Time:
First jack isn't there.
Maybe would be nice if you stepped those three arrow coupling 8th notes as jumps to put emphasis.
You should step drums on m8. Wouldn't make it complicated; makes it feel a little better.
I say step quarter notes on m12 for drums. Nothing too much, but might make it feel less empty.
I think jacks on m14 are actually 32nds but that would be dumb; maybe step them as rolls or trills? dunno, but technically they aren't 16ths.
Step those 16th drums on m15/16, it would be cooler.
m17 streams are 24ths, or maybe 32nds. Definitely not 16ths.
I'm pretty sure m20 trill isn't accurate.
And maybe m24 is wrong too.
There should probably be two jumps on m26 for emphasis.
When the song speeds up at m38 I think you don't have to follow vocals because it would be overlayered, the file doesn't feel empty, so yeah keep it the way it is...lol.
If at m44 you are following drums, should be constant 16th stream, with no stops.
IMO step drums at m52 and m53.
For emphasis you should put jumps at every 4th note on m62 and m63. Drums are hard there so yeah.
IMO step drum stream at m68.
IMO m88-m92 is really really fun so nice job.
m101 is 24ths, not 16ths.
Step drums at m106.
m110 should have a jump for emphasis AND consistency (you put jumps at every other drums spot, so why not here).
m111 jacks aren't correct.
Step drums at m126.
Didn't play rest because song seemed repetitive and long.
Overall, I liked this file most out of the three.
ALSO A WORD ABOUT MY REVIEWS:
Even if I liked the file, I will probably only list the bad things, because why list the good things if they have nothing to fix?
EDIT5:
HOLY **** I JUST GOT MY SIMFILE AUTHOR TITLE YESSSSSSSS

[Necros140606]

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...majority of the song is 8th notes and vocals would be no different as well

in defense of robertsona, i can tell you this DOES make a difference. it often makes the file less empty, and the jump patterns can be more interesting than just single notes patterns, especially when the song is long. the lenght is a crucial aspect since a song repeating itself more than two times may get annoying even if it's short, figure when it's long. a good example of a superboring file even if correct is zagh's identity (keyboar collab 3). nobody really plays that even if it has no technical flaws because it's so fucen lng and repetitive. well, it's the same thing, except these files aren't even technically correct at spots.

just because you suck doesn't mean others can't do well

and on this i can tell you there are patterns on spread, especially at fast bpms (talkin about 16ths) that turn the file into complete crap. i'd say there are VERY few of them, and if you don't want to create a huge gap between the song's average difficulty and that spot's difficulty you need to either check them out or change the pattern around a bit to avoid making it too heavy on the left hand. a perfect example is trills on the left hand. if too long and too fast are the most annoying thing in a file, and there's no one that will tell you otherwise.

[Gehodra]

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NTM was actually cool about this, he took his criticism.
Sure, he may not have agreed with everything, but at least he took it in a polite way.

Yeah, he took it in a polite way, but you did not present it in a polite way. Lots of people are willing to accept criticism, as long as its not yelled at them.

I am completely against rating files based on whether you are good at them or not.
I just thought those trills might be really fast.
If people CAN do them, disregard my comment.

That's a step in the right direction. Saying you found something to be hard is okay; presenting it as a fact which represents an entire community, not so much.

EDIT2: Also wow I just saw Gehodra's comment yeah I wouldn't count "..." and "no" as criticism but nice try maybe come back when you don't have your head up your ass.

Maybe you didn't understand the post then. I will admit to being kinda harsh, but that was only in response to how you offered your "critisism".

EDIT3:

I gotta give you props for that one, it was pretty good.

I have to say, some of your criticism was good. The part where you pointed out the errors. If you could just separate that from the part where you yell at the artist, then I (and I'm sure the others) would definitely appreciate hearing your criticism.

[robertsona]

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I have to say, some of your criticism was good. The part where you pointed out the errors. If you could just separate that from the part where you yell at the artist, then I (and I'm sure the others) would definitely appreciate hearing your criticism.

You may notice that that was what i was doing before you and ssbmchamp came around...
still, it doesn't sound like you're that mad at me anymore, so whatever.

[Gehodra]

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I'm not touching the ssbmchamp thing, has nothing to do with me.

I was actually referring to all the caps, "Holy Crap"s and "God"s, from your first reviews. Doesn't exactly come across as "I'm trying to help you". It's more like "You suck".