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  • robertsona
    missa in h-moll
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2006
    • 3997

    #16
    Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

    Okay I'll brb with more reviews.
    Played one file.
    A Flame For Freedom:
    I have one thing to say.
    HOLY CRAP STEP SOMETHING OTHER THAN GUITARS.
    The file feels SO ****ING EMPTY.
    Like, I don't care if it's a guitar based song, layering is something you HAVE to learn to be a good stepper.
    Like, when nothing is going on with the guitars, what you do is don't step anything, even when drums/vocals/etc. are playing.
    STEP THE VOCALS.
    This file is really easy and boring because you don't choose to step ANYTHING other than vocals.
    Bad file in my opinion.
    SERIOUSLY. Layer.
    For what you stepped, it is correct.
    The solo was kinda cool.
    Heartbreak Armageddon
    Heavy:
    There are a LOT of cool drum patterns you could have stepped. Step 'em. I think the 16th note on m22 might be 24th or something. IMO it'd be kinda cool if the BPM was doubled at m27. At m39, I slowed it down, and it sounds like 24ths, not 16ths. AT m47, STEP THOSE VOCALS GOD. m65 is literally impossible for spread players. 195 BPM left handed trills? No thanks. Step drums at m69. From m95-m101 the 16ths are basically inaudible (or whatever you are stepping).
    m103 is almost impossible for spread players, as is m109. m111 and m112 is cool, the jacks are PR but really really hard. Same with m115 and m116. Step drums at m117. m122 isn't correct; close, but not correct. Check it again. m123 and m124 are actually 32nds, not 24ths (even though that would be ****ing impossible). m131 is really hard for spread players. As is m135. AND HOLY CRAP m141 and m142 are IMPOSSIBLE for spread players. m177 and m178 is impossible for spread players. m179 would also be really hard. m234 is cool, some parts might be off, but good sync. m258 is impossible AND technically incorrect. m285 and m286 are really hard, and the left-down-left-down-left-down-etc. trill is impossible for spread players. m290 is impossible for spread players. m312 is impossible for spread players, and technically incorrect. m320 and m321 would be very hard for spread players. As is m337.
    SONG IS WAY TOO LONG.
    It's really generic too.

    So far my opinion is that you are incapable of stepping anything other than guitars, which makes your files generic and boring. The song choices suck and are generic. The files aren't too great so far; I don't like them.
    Last edited by robertsona; 10-16-2008, 05:08 PM.

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    • N.T.M.
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2007
      • 890

      #17
      Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

      Originally posted by robertsona
      Okay I'll brb with more reviews.
      Played one file.
      A Flame For Freedom:
      I have one thing to say.
      HOLY CRAP STEP SOMETHING OTHER THAN GUITARS.
      The file feels SO ****ING EMPTY.
      Like, I don't care if it's a guitar based song, layering is something you HAVE to learn to be a good stepper.
      Like, when nothing is going on with the guitars, what you do is don't step anything, even when drums/vocals/etc. are playing.
      STEP THE VOCALS.
      This file is really easy and boring because you don't choose to step ANYTHING other than vocals.
      Bad file in my opinion.
      SERIOUSLY. Layer.
      For what you stepped, it is correct.
      The solo was kinda cool.
      Heartbreak Armageddon
      Heavy:
      There are a LOT of cool drum patterns you could have stepped. Step 'em. I think the 16th note on m22 might be 24th or something. IMO it'd be kinda cool if the BPM was doubled at m27. At m39, I slowed it down, and it sounds like 24ths, not 16ths. AT m47, STEP THOSE VOCALS GOD. m65 is literally impossible for spread players. 195 BPM left handed trills? No thanks. Step drums at m65.
      I don't like stepping vocals. I'll need to check out some of the areas you're referencing too. IDK where m39 is (I'll check later), but I know there was one place where it sounded like 24ths unless you slow it WAY down and then you can actually count the steps and they're 16ths.
      “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

      Christopher Hitchens

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      • Mr. Bob
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2008
        • 687

        #18
        Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

        all of this due to fots

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        • robertsona
          missa in h-moll
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2006
          • 3997

          #19
          Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

          there finished judging two songs LOL

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          • N.T.M.
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2007
            • 890

            #20
            Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

            Originally posted by robertsona
            there finished judging two songs LOL
            A couple things that I have to agree with without even going into the songs is as follows:

            1.) A play one-handed so sometimes I forget patterns that appeal to other styles (example: those left handed 16th trills).

            2.) You know how I said I like to drop the drums for the faster guitar sections? I applied those same guidelines to the 150 BPM section of HA and didn't layer. I should have. I mean 150 isn't that fast.
            “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

            Christopher Hitchens

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            • kommisar[os]
              Banned
              • Apr 2006
              • 4097

              #21
              Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

              Originally posted by necros 2 years ago on smgroove
              Vocals kill the chart 90% of the time
              yep

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              • N.T.M.
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2007
                • 890

                #22
                Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                Originally posted by kommisar[os]
                yep
                Vocals are good for some bands like SOAD, but usually for DF (at least for how I step them) I don't like vocals. Most of the time at least.
                “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                Christopher Hitchens

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                • phe0nixblade
                  Praise the sun mofo
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4281

                  #23
                  Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                  Originally posted by N.T.M.
                  A couple things that I have to agree with without even going into the songs is as follows:

                  1.) A play one-handed so sometimes I forget patterns that appeal to other styles (example: those left handed 16th trills).

                  2.) You know how I said I like to drop the drums for the faster guitar sections? I applied those same guidelines to the 150 BPM section of HA and didn't layer. I should have. I mean 150 isn't that fast.
                  dont step things just to be a one handed pattern just because you are one handed
                  and another thing, if i remember right i played one of your files a while ago
                  it sucked
                  so im not dl'ing this

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                  • Patashu
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 8609

                    #24
                    Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                    Originally posted by N.T.M.
                    Commonly there are very faint intermediate notes that produce the illusion of faster notes.
                    If there are intermediate notes it's not an illusion, it's actually there.
                    rofl
                    Last edited by Patashu; 10-16-2008, 07:56 PM.
                    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                    http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                    Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                    http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                    • Gehodra
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 15

                      #25
                      Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                      Eh, I'll try to be succinct here.

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      NOTE THIS: Your files aren't actually bad; they're actually much better than I expected.
                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      The files aren't too great so far; I don't like them.
                      ...

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      STEP THE VOCALS.
                      No.

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      I hate Dragonforce, and they make ****ty files. Like, ****TY, seriously.
                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      And DragonForce is simply bad song choice; sorry for being blunt but it's one of the few bands that simply cannot make great files.
                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      you REALLY shouldn't step DragonForce, and every good stepper knows that.
                      ...

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      m65 is literally impossible for spread players... m103 is almost impossible for spread players, as is m109... AND HOLY CRAP m141 and m142 are IMPOSSIBLE for spread players... m177 and m178 is impossible for spread players... m258 is impossible... m285 and m286 are really hard, and the left-down-left-down-left-down-etc. trill is impossible for spread players. m290 is impossible for spread players. m312 is impossible for spread players... m320 and m321 would be very hard for spread players. As is m337.
                      Get better.

                      Originally posted by robertsona
                      This file is really easy
                      Get worse.

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                      • phe0nixblade
                        Praise the sun mofo
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4281

                        #26
                        Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                        Originally posted by Gehodra
                        [moron]
                        do you even have any idea what we are talking about

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                        • Patashu
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 8609

                          #27
                          Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                          well for one left-down trills aren't impossible for spread players

                          stop sucking at them they're ez
                          Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                          http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                          Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                          http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                          • N.T.M.
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 890

                            #28
                            Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                            Originally posted by phe0nixblade
                            dont step things just to be a one handed pattern just because you are one handed
                            and another thing, if i remember right i played one of your files a while ago
                            it sucked
                            so im not dl'ing this
                            Every file I've submitted to this pack has been revised, but w/e.

                            Originally posted by Patashu
                            If there are intermediate notes it's not an illusion, it's actually there.
                            rofl
                            Just saying I try to step whatever outlines the sounds. Seems like when I include everything people usually don't like it.
                            Last edited by N.T.M.; 10-16-2008, 09:39 PM.
                            “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                            Christopher Hitchens

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                            • Gehodra
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 15

                              #29
                              Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                              Originally posted by phe0nixblade
                              do you even have any idea what we are talking about
                              That's some pretty damning evidence right there. Dunno if I can come back from that.

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                              • ssbmchamp
                                Can't improve at this game.
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1128

                                #30
                                Re: Ultra Beatdown pack released!! (video preview included)

                                robertsona i got some criticism for you.....shut up. just because your not skilled enough to step dragonforce doesn't mean they suck. what amazing simfiles have you made btw....oh right you haven't but i'm sure any you do make will be to vocals only and i bet you would still find a way to get those wrong as well.....

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