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  • All_That_Chaz
    Supreme Dictator For Life
    • Apr 2004
    • 5874
    #1

    Critique my simfile?

    I've had a number of friends and acquaintences play this, my first simfile. They all say it's pretty good and spectacular for a first simfile. I think they're just being nice. I want some solid critique so I can improve.

    I've emailed the artist for permission to submit this to FFR. I probably won't ever hear back though. That site is many years old. Who knows if the artist uses that email address anymore. The song's got a really nice eurobeat feel to it. Reminds me a lot of AKHT.

    Author: hito-ookami
    Song: Flame of Agnus
    Link: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=23490
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    Originally posted by FoJaR
    dammit chaz
    Originally posted by FoJaR
    god dammit chaz
    Originally posted by MalReynolds
    I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.
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    • ducky285
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2005
      • 1388
      #2
      Re: Critique my simfile?

      My review

      - There are no 12ths in this song, so why are they all over the place? Dotted eights work in pretty much every spot with 12ths in it.
      - Some of the 24ths made no sense.
      - Too many empty spots. Understepped. Needs freeze arrows if you're planning on using it for SM.
      - Patterns are too screwy for pad play and too bland for keyboard. It's caught in limbo.
      Quack quack quack

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        • All_That_Chaz
          Supreme Dictator For Life
          • Apr 2004
          • 5874
          #3
          Re: Critique my simfile?

          Thanks for your review!

          - There are most definitely 12ths in the song. This is my first time using the step-editor so please elaborate on what you mean by dotted 8ths. If you mean holding an 8th, it's pretty obvious that I purposefully avoided holds. And if that's the case the notes would have been coming in too early. There are times when they were closer to 16ths and I made them such.
          - There are only a couple spots with 24ths. The ones that are in there are either with the melody or later with the drum beat. Maybe I'm just missing your point. Please clarify.
          - I'm not planning on using this for SM. I was planning this song to be about a very difficult FFR song because I prefer FFR to SM. Which parts are understepped? Sometimes I think the end is understepped but it's kind of an anticlimactic song and I didn't want to fabricate steps that weren't there. Any ideas?
          - Not meant for pad play. Elaborate on why you think the patterns are bland. They're just patterns that come naturally - trills, rolls, etc.
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          Originally posted by FoJaR
          dammit chaz
          Originally posted by FoJaR
          god dammit chaz
          Originally posted by MalReynolds
          I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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            • bluguerrilla
              FFR Player
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2006
              • 3966
              #4
              Re: Critique my simfile?

              He means most places where your steps go red-purple-purple-red it should go red-yellow-blue-red.

              Slow it down in the editor to like .5x and turn on tick assist to hear what we mean.

              It seems like the stream is forced and that the synth is understepped because of the lack of layering.

              Maybe it's just the song choice, too repetitive to make a really good sim.

              Edit: Although, better than many first tries I've seen, can't really comment on sync since I just watched it in resonance...

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                • foilman8805
                  smoke wheat hail satin
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 5704
                  #5
                  Re: Critique my simfile?

                  It's your first simfile - it's really good for a first simfile. I still stand firm in saying I enjoyed it.

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                    • All_That_Chaz
                      Supreme Dictator For Life
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5874
                      #6
                      Re: Critique my simfile?

                      Originally posted by bluguerrilla
                      He means most places where your steps go red-purple-purple-red it should go red-yellow-blue-red.

                      Slow it down in the editor to like .5x and turn on tick assist to hear what we mean.
                      I used .5x to help sync it. There are points that work better with each of those rhythm patterns. I'll double check to make sure they're right. I'll check out tick assist too.
                      Originally posted by bluguerrilla
                      It seems like the stream is forced and that the synth is understepped because of the lack of layering.

                      Maybe it's just the song choice, too repetitive to make a really good sim.

                      Edit: Although, better than many first tries I've seen, can't really comment on sync since I just watched it in resonance...
                      There's definitely a lack of layering that I did to make the song easier. I wanted it to be about an 8 difficulty. Instead of layering I jumped from rhythm to rhythm. That definitely could have made the couple times I threw 16th streams in there seem forced but that's really how the song is. If I layered the synth in there it might seem less out of the ordinary but it would be difficult to say when I should lay off the 16ths to keep the song from being one big stream.

                      Thanks for your thoughts!
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                      Originally posted by FoJaR
                      dammit chaz
                      Originally posted by FoJaR
                      god dammit chaz
                      Originally posted by MalReynolds
                      I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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                        • ducky285
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1388
                          #7
                          Re: Critique my simfile?

                          Originally posted by All_That_Chaz
                          Thanks for your review!

                          - There are most definitely 12ths in the song. This is my first time using the step-editor so please elaborate on what you mean by dotted 8ths. If you mean holding an 8th, it's pretty obvious that I purposefully avoided holds. And if that's the case the notes would have been coming in too early. There are times when they were closer to 16ths and I made them such.
                          - There are only a couple spots with 24ths. The ones that are in there are either with the melody or later with the drum beat. Maybe I'm just missing your point. Please clarify.
                          - I'm not planning on using this for SM. I was planning this song to be about a very difficult FFR song because I prefer FFR to SM. Which parts are understepped? Sometimes I think the end is understepped but it's kind of an anticlimactic song and I didn't want to fabricate steps that weren't there. Any ideas?
                          - Not meant for pad play. Elaborate on why you think the patterns are bland. They're just patterns that come naturally - trills, rolls, etc.
                          dotted eights - a duration that lasts the same amount of time as an eighth plus a sixteenth. In SM terms, they're notes that are three 16ths away from each other.

                          Some of the 24ths either went to nothing or to sounds that weren't prominent enough to warrant putting steps to.

                          If you're making this for keyboard, layer it a bit more to at least make it fun for people who are somewhat skilled. It's way too easy and boring as a result. Use some pitch relevance and some layering.

                          And seeing as you're having difficulties with the permissions, I would suggest revising for SM. Not to offend fans or devs, but SM is SO much better than FFR.
                          Quack quack quack

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                            • All_That_Chaz
                              Supreme Dictator For Life
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 5874
                              #8
                              Re: Critique my simfile?

                              I'm looking at those phrases with the 12ths to make sure I timed them right, but I really think I got them.

                              I'll remove any superfluous 24ths I find.

                              As to the difficulty, I made it as easy as it is because I wanted it to be that way. If I want to make a harder version, I will. I understand where people are coming from when they say sm is better than ffr, but I prefer ffr for whatever reason. I do have some pitch relevance but I'll see if I can't modify it to get more in there and fix incorrect places. Same with layering.
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                              Originally posted by FoJaR
                              dammit chaz
                              Originally posted by FoJaR
                              god dammit chaz
                              Originally posted by MalReynolds
                              I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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                                • AsphyxZero
                                  Banned
                                  • Oct 2010
                                  • 1823
                                  #9
                                  Re: Critique my simfile?

                                  For the life of me, stop posting.

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                                    • All_That_Chaz
                                      Supreme Dictator For Life
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 5874
                                      #10
                                      Re: Critique my simfile?

                                      lol bot bump. Was wondering why someone would bump a thread for a simfile on a non-existent database...
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                                      Originally posted by FoJaR
                                      dammit chaz
                                      Originally posted by FoJaR
                                      god dammit chaz
                                      Originally posted by MalReynolds
                                      I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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