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  • Celirra
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2015
    • 749

    #16
    Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

    Originally posted by choof
    if we want to get some kind of beginner geared project going for stepmania, one that actually has potential to bring new users in, there needs to be way more work put into it than what you have here
    It seems half assed for now, I acknowledge that. Honestly, I largely want to gauge the overall interest before investing a lot of time into this; I don't want this to be some single file author pack, so I was hesitant to do a lot before I saw that there were people interested. Given that there have been a few people who have approached me, more effort will be put into this kind of thing.

    That being said as well, if there's any way you would like to help, that would be swell. The criticism is a sentiment shared between you and I, but this project as a whole has to start somewhere. Yeah, this thread seems shitty; that's not to say that the finalized version will be. Also, it's not like I'm doing nothing - I've been working on some things that would fulfill the criteria.
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    • DDRNGGin
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 472

      #17
      Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

      Sent a PM regarding my interest in contributing some charts to the pack, assuming DDR Pad/Index charts are allowed.
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      • Celirra
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2015
        • 749

        #18
        Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

        Originally posted by DDRNGGin
        Sent a PM regarding my interest in contributing some charts to the pack, assuming DDR Pad/Index charts are allowed.
        Replied; for anyone curious, the summation of the answer is that I'd say pad/index files aren't the goal, but I can see ways that they could potentially fit. Try to lean more towards spread.
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        • sunn0glasses
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2016
          • 209

          #19
          Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

          just throwin this out there - i think we've already discussed the general problems and/or solutions in the other thread about this, but i'm still convinced that the content itself (the song choice) should in some way be relevant and interesting from an objective standpoint (people who have no idea of stpemanias). if what you want is to expand the general audience of stepmania, you/we should all consider how we can go about actually "introducing" such an introductory pack. surely, you weren't planning on just sending out an email newletter.. right? for example, the undertale pack (which i didn;t play tbh) - it's directed at an already existing community. same with the vgmp's (which i also don't play tbh sry). im NOT implying we want a gimmick, like a minecraft theme or some bs. just, maybe think more universally about what songs are charted, and how they'll be received by objective viewers

          that said, im not really basing this on anything bc there's no songlist for this yet. do you have any plans for that?

          also, just to clarify, you're looking to make new simfiles for this, right? i'm just wondering.

          maybe take this into consideration with your brainstorm - how did you get into stepmania originally? what were the introductory packs you played?

          that question is directed at everyone here i guess

          here's my answer - remember stepmix? the official stepmania starter packs from back in the day. those were all meant to be pad, i think. then, i went for the community keyboard megapacks, which, as far as i can remember, is where i first learned to really play spread.

          just tryin to conceptualize. you gotta think of it all in the context of everything
          Last edited by sunn0glasses; 10-1-2016, 02:32 PM.

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          • Celirra
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2015
            • 749

            #20
            Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

            Originally posted by sunn0glasses
            just throwin this out there - i think we've already discussed the general problems and/or solutions in the other thread about this, but i'm still convinced that the content itself (the song choice) should in some way be relevant and interesting from an objective standpoint (people who have no idea of stpemanias). if what you want is to expand the general audience of stepmania, you/we should all consider how we can go about actually "introducing" such an introductory pack. surely, you weren't planning on just sending out an email newletter.. right? for example, the undertale pack (which i didn;t play tbh) - it's directed at an already existing community. same with the vgmp's (which i also don't play tbh sry). im NOT implying we want a gimmick, like a minecraft theme or some bs. just, maybe think more universally about what songs are charted, and how they'll be received by objective viewers

            that said, im not really basing this on anything bc there's no songlist for this yet. do you have any plans for that?
            In regards to song list, I'm more than welcome to feedback on this matter but I think it would be good to stay away from anime music as a whole, since there does already exist Otaku's Dream which somewhat achieved what we're going for here. Other than that, there's no real criteria that I can think of, aside from perhaps gearing towards more fun songs or even ones that may be somewhat recognizable - open to suggestions on this.
            Last edited by Celirra; 10-1-2016, 03:44 PM.
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            • DDRNGGin
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 472

              #21
              Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

              I have sent in a few files for the pack.
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              Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80)

              Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76)

              Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70)

              Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

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              • storn42
                RIP Storn D0-D0
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jun 2012
                • 3473

                #22
                Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                name suggestion: Stepmania Starter Pack

                i have some stuff i can probably send in later as well.


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                • rparty89
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 618

                  #23
                  Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                  im boed sen me somtin 2 dew
                  (i can contribute to dis pax)
                  Last edited by rparty89; 10-2-2016, 08:04 PM.

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                  • Celirra
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 749

                    #24
                    Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                    Originally posted by storn42
                    name suggestion: Stepmania Starter Pack

                    i have some stuff i can probably send in later as well.
                    Originally posted by rparty89
                    im boed sen me somtin 2 dew
                    (i can contribute to dis pax)
                    Awesome thanks, I'll let you both know once this is more formalized (planning things out for now). Expect to hear more within a week!

                    Also that name definitely sounds better, yeah
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                    • Jousway
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 867

                      #25
                      Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

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                      • James May
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3817

                        #26
                        Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                        @Celirra: Sent you a thing via PM btw, not sure if the song is fitting for it though, let me know.
                        bananas


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                        • Celirra
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 749

                          #27
                          Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                          James May is killing it with these submissions;
                          Soon this will be a mostly James May pack!


                          As an aside, gonna update the thread soon with finalized details and more polished
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                          • TenSecondBraeden
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 29

                            #28
                            Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                            I sent in a file for the pack, What difficulty system are we supposed to use?

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                            • Celirra
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 749

                              #29
                              Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                              Originally posted by TenSecondBraeden
                              I sent in a file for the pack, What difficulty system are we supposed to use?
                              Hadn't really considered that honestly; I'll normalize them somehow once everything is settled. Probably a hybrid of SML and my own judgement. For now don't worry about that too much.

                              File was great by the way, thanks a bunch!
                              Last edited by Celirra; 10-7-2016, 09:45 PM.
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                              • infinigon
                                FFR Player
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 12

                                #30
                                Re: Stepmania Introductory Pack (name not final)

                                Remind me to submit some stuff to this!

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