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  • AlexDest
    good hot
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2007
    • 5309

    #166
    Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

    Originally posted by cedolad
    ...

    didn't layer some of the kicks in the beginning




    can't tell if serious or not.
    enjoy 8 screenshots of missing kicks (wherever the receptors are, that's where the missing kicks are)









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    • leonid
      I am leonid
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Oct 2008
      • 8080

      #167
      Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!





      Proud member of Team No

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      • Coolboyrulez0
        VICES
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Aug 2006
        • 10042

        #168
        Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

        iwbed
        https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore
        https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #169
          Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

          In cedolad's defense, adding a jump in screenshot 5 would either force a mini-jack or an uncomfortable staccato-like hit due to mine avoidance.

          (haven't checked the chart, lol)

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          • stargroup100
            behanjc & me are <3'ers
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jul 2006
            • 2051

            #170
            Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

            Originally posted by AlexDest
            enjoy 8 screenshots of missing kicks (wherever the receptors are, that's where the missing kicks are)
            the first 3 are part of an alternative layering scheme where snares are accented with single notes instead of doubles. so firstly, you're incorrect technically when you say "kicks" and secondly, that's his choice of layering/focus and he did it correctly according to his plans. therefore, what you SHOULD be commenting on is how this choice fits or doesn't fit with the piece. I personally think it works quite nicely, as it gives the snare a very light feel to it, and without it being heavy, it really drives home the harder sections by comparison

            4th screenshot same deal, except in addition, it highlights the vocals here which is a great thing to do in my opinion, considering how important and prominent it is. placing doubles here puts less power and emphasis on the vocals, so while this is also okay, I think it works well how it is and it's consistent with the rest of the chart

            5th screenshot is in a section where he adds the doubles to the snare, but if you listen carefully, one beat before this there is a sudden calmness to the piece, and he notices this and reverts back to the previous lighter layering scheme for those two beats, which I think was clever and demonstrates a perceptive ear

            screenshots 6-8 I think is fine because the synth hit here is so overwhelming that it takes over the prominence of anything else. adding an extra note just to emphasize the drum hit would make the left hand feel very heavy for no reason, considering that there is a single note pulse on the left hand for the entire section

            so basically everything you thought was an error is justifiable and not actually "wrong". cedolad did a good job on this one. i gotcho back dawg
            Last edited by stargroup100; 02-18-2013, 01:34 PM.
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            • AlexDest
              good hot
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2007
              • 5309

              #171
              Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

              i never said it was wrong that he didn't layer those certain kicks, i'm just pointing out for him since he questioned my review

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              • stargroup100
                behanjc & me are <3'ers
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Jul 2006
                • 2051

                #172
                Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                Originally posted by AlexDest
                i never said it was wrong that he didn't layer those certain kicks, i'm just pointing out for him since he questioned my review
                ok fair enough. then let me amend my statements.

                in your review it sounds like you're pointing out an error he made. if you want to critically review a chart, before anything else you need to understand the chart before you can point out improvements. at best, you can only say that if you were to chart the song, you would layer those drums there. but when you're questioning someone else's choices, you have to explain why they don't work, but you don't do any of that here

                if, however, you simply meant to offer your own opinion, you should phrase it differently, like this:
                Originally posted by AlexDest
                Bonfire - not too bad to play. the mines could have accented the song better and I think some of the kicks in the beginning should be layered. 6/10
                or this:
                Originally posted by AlexDest
                Bonfire - not too bad to play. the mines could have accented the song better and I disagree with not layering the kicks in the beginning. 6/10
                if it sounds like I'm being a dick right now I apologize. I just think that this is a very simple concept that if everyone understood, would prevent a lot of misconceptions and disputes. there's a difference between critically reviewing and expressing an opinion and reviews should be careful not to sound like a critique when expressing an opinion. for example, in my reviews I rate the charts based on quality, but you can very quickly tell which charts I found the most fun to play, even though they may not be the highest rated
                Last edited by stargroup100; 02-18-2013, 01:57 PM.
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                Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

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                • Razor
                  Dan "Razor" Devilz
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2004
                  • 1606

                  #173
                  Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                  glad to see erryone still likes retro city
                  Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
                  Best FFR file from 2013:
                  3rd: Retro City
                  Originally posted by Choofers
                  I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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                  • 1337h4xz0r
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 432

                    #174
                    Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                    Originally posted by Razor
                    glad to see erryone still likes retro city
                    Ew.

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                    • kommisar
                      Dark Chancellor
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 7327

                      #175
                      Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                      I remember when the elite made packs with their own simfiles and people played, enjoyed them, and shut the hell up about technical aspects because 90% of the time they didn't know what they were talking about. It's StepMania. You don't need to go into giga details. The best simfile artists have narrowed it down to "does it feel like i'm playing the songs" and "is it fun to play". That's literally everything any casual player will care about or even most experienced players. People play shit that's fun.

                      the end.


                      good times

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                      • i love you
                        Live a wonderful life~
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 7313

                        #176
                        Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                        Originally posted by kommisar
                        I remember when the elite made packs with their own simfiles and people played, enjoyed them, and shut the hell up about technical aspects because 90% of the time they didn't know what they were talking about. It's StepMania. You don't need to go into giga details. The best simfile artists have narrowed it down to "does it feel like i'm playing the songs" and "is it fun to play". That's literally everything any casual player will care about or even most experienced players. People play shit that's fun.

                        the end.
                        Best quote spoken by a true stepman. I also go by this rule.

                        PS: This pack seems to be fun for the most part. I have not gone through the whole pack yet but it seems promising so far.

                        EDIT: I'm saving this quote because I see it as the honest truth and I believe every stepman should know this.
                        Last edited by i love you; 02-18-2013, 03:11 PM.
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                        • Wayward Vagabond
                          Confirmed Heartbreaker
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 5866

                          #177
                          Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                          my philosophy when it comes to stepping hasnt failed me so far so i'll just keep doin me and y'all can keep doing y'all

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                          • cedolad
                            moonchild~
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6879

                            #178
                            Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                            oh the mess. yeah alex just that bit was a little critical, didn't mean to point it out in a huge turnabout like this.

                            pretty much everything sg said was true lol, so analytic wow. for a tl;dr version simply would be: light focus of perc in the beginning to give more emphasis to strings to later accentuate the perc for more density in the wubwub

                            but I do think I missed the kick a bit in the later parts ...

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                            • Mollocephalus
                              Custom User Title
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2608

                              #179
                              Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                              After 9 pages no one reviewed gamma

                              i am disappoint

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                              • Choofers
                                FFR Player
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 6205

                                #180
                                Re: FFR Community Pack 4 Released!

                                i actually didn't like retro city

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