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  • ubersoldier
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2008
    • 15

    #1

    Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

    I'm trying to figure this out, and I'm not too sure if it's just me, it might be though, but is anyone else really good at Stepmania, but is only about 75% of that when playing FFR? For example, if I play a level 10 or 11 song on FFR, I'll get about 3-5 miss, and around 100-200 good - depending on the song - and the rest are perfect. (I'm not the best on here, be quiet.) But if I play the exact same song in Stepmania - step charts and all - a few days later, I'll FC it with around 25-50 good, give or take.

    Does that happen to anyone else?
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    • Jan 2008
    • 805

    #2
    Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

    it's not just you, it's everyone.

    you generally have to be a lot more skillful at FFR than SM. SM is not very demanding whereas with FFR you have to contend a lot more with lag and lower frame rates and such.

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      • Oct 2006
      • 7313

      #3
      Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

      Yes! I can AAA molto, FN, GGC and bf one minute waltz on SM but I get like 5 goods on FN, 20-30ish goods on GGC and like 20-30ish goods on one minute waltz in FFR.
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      • Izzy
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2003
        • 9195

        #4
        Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

        FFR accuracy windows really huge while on stepmania they are pretty small. Should be the other way around.

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        • fullmetal_alchemist027
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          • Jul 2005
          • 265

          #5
          Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

          yeah its the other way around for me
          Im pretty good at FFR but man do I blow at Step D:


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          • Oni-Paranoia
            No fucks
            • Dec 2006
            • 2440

            #6
            Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

            Originally posted by Izzy
            FFR accuracy windows really huge while on stepmania they are pretty small. Should be the other way around.
            Yea, but the whole setup is different. Hallway with SM gfx allows me to AAA FFR's FGOs. While on FFR with retarded Overhead, big arrows etc I can barely SDG.

            P.s. I blame GFX

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            • Breakdown16
              FFR Veteran
              • Sep 2007
              • 1938

              #7
              Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

              It often depends on which game you start first. SM teaches timing but does not force people to cope with lag or poor framerates. FFR teaches adjusting to lag but does not emphasize accuracy enough.


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              • rajdaddy
                FFR Veteran
                • Jun 2008
                • 313

                #8
                Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                Omg I know exactly what you mean, im pretty much a beast on SM, AAAing a whole bunch of SM songs is easy, but on FFR I can't seem to AAA anything.

                idk why people say play Stepmania to get better at FFR..I just don't see it happening.

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                • TC_llama499
                  Resident Rock Climber
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1573

                  #9
                  Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                  Stepmania > FFR

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                  • One Winged Angel
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 10837

                    #10
                    Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                    actually it's the exact opposite with me lol


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                    • Patashu
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #11
                      Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                      stepmania is easier for a number of reasons
                      one is the higher frame rate and also higher sampling rate; in ffr both keytaps and notes (even visually) are snapped to the nearest frame, making it harder to smoothly read patterns, especially ultra fast ones where the quantization is more obvious
                      two is that there is more feedback provided to you; with the higher frame rate alone you see the notes more often and the judgements faster, but in addition to that stepmania provides a far richer range of judgement levels, especially marvelouses
                      three is that every single file in ffr is about a frame early because of the way the perfect window is skewed
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                      • leonid
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 8080

                        #12
                        Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                        I'm better at FFR than at SM



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                        • Ghakimx
                          Cutie&Handshaking Sounds
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1594

                          #13
                          Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                          Same.

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                          • The5thMoon
                            self-fulfilled prophecy
                            • May 2006
                            • 2132

                            #14
                            Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                            actually it's the exact opposite with me lol
                            This.

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                            • ubersoldier
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Re: Better At Stepmania Then FFR?

                              Originally posted by rajdaddy
                              idk why people say play Stepmania to get better at FFR..I just don't see it happening.
                              Yeah, me neither.

                              I started with FFR, then went to SM to play more songs, what took me at least half my member time here to get - skill wise - I surpassed in SM in like, a week.
                              what the devil

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