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  • leonid
    I am leonid
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    • Oct 2008
    • 8080

    #46
    Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

    I actually got myself to read some more of this

    - Staiain say Jhlee has some skillsets not better than his
    - Jhlee takes it personally and talks shit about him
    - Jhlee's fans attack Staiain
    - Jhlee's osu scores get sniped (targeted score sniping is taken very negatively in kr btw. idk why)
    - Some bs calling

    Why is this still going on?



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    • Wayward Vagabond
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      • Jul 2012
      • 5866

      #47
      Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

      Lol

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      • Arch0wl
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        • Dec 2002
        • 6344

        #48
        Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

        Originally posted by leonid
        - Jhlee's osu scores get sniped (targeted score sniping is taken very negatively in kr btw. idk why)
        if a community does something weird and seemingly irrational, more often than not it's just an irrational cultural belief at the origin of it

        e.g. Americans make up a lot of reasons why you should do this or that about sex, while other cultures do not have the same reasons, and usually it's some bullshit cultural belief at the origin every time

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        • Arch0wl
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          • Dec 2002
          • 6344

          #49
          Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

          anyway, one thing I didn't consider, but should have

          what is jhlee's setup like?

          any time someone has hugely varying scores across songs, my first guess is that they have some setup that differs from the norm. it could be that the setup he's using is unconventional in a way that allows for very good scores on some songs but not others

          then again, I didn't get to see his streams, so I'm not sure how much this would make a difference

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          • Hakulyte
            the Haku
            • Jul 2005
            • 4621

            #50
            Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

            Originally posted by Arch0wl
            what is jhlee's setup like?
            Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers.


            Most recent stream, make your own opinion~

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            • Dynam0
              The Dominator
              • Sep 2005
              • 8987

              #51
              Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

              Originally posted by kommisar
              honestly I agree with Hayden and Mina when they say people are so vanilla about bs calls nowadays it's like people are afraid of ruining the perfect image of stepmania where you can be amazing for 2 seconds in a brag board post when you clearly bs'd your scores.

              rhythm games have become a lalaland of let's be amazed at whatever fabricated achievements people circlejerk over to justify having wasted hours of their lives and get instant praise for something that gives you no genuine fulfillment in life aside from getting people sucking your dick for scores you purposely bullshitted what an amazing life you must have.

              makes people who work legit hard for those scores look like shit and that don't jive with me.
              Or most of the community has transcended the whole calling people out phase because in the end it's just a game

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              • choof
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                • Nov 2013
                • 8563

                #52
                Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                Originally posted by leonid
                Perhaps you guys should step up and play some better rhythm games like bms rather than throwing bs flags around every time you find someone that is good
                i'm 1st insane dan

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                • choof
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                  • Nov 2013
                  • 8563

                  #53
                  Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                  Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                  I'm not saying Jhlee is bs by any means, but even if he is, who cares?
                  jhlee is a bms player, an osu player, and an sm player
                  there are three communities right there with people who are insanely good at this game and insanely legit

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                  • Arch0wl
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 6344

                    #54
                    Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                    Originally posted by Dynam0
                    Or most of the community has transcended the whole calling people out phase because in the end it's just a game
                    bullshit is offensive on principle

                    if someone said they had 25 shots in 5 hours I'd call bullshit even though I think this is an incredibly dumb thing to brag about

                    if someone said they punched a deer unconscious I'd call bullshit even though I have nothing invested in deer-punching whatsoever

                    and so on -- you get the idea

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                    • choof
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                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #55
                      Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                      Originally posted by Dynam0
                      Or most of the community has transcended the whole calling people out phase because in the end it's just a game
                      if a game has the capacity to be competitive, and the competitive players are being "beaten" by someone who is not legit, that has less to do with the game and more to do with the competition

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                      • Arch0wl
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 6344

                        #56
                        Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                        another explanation -- maybe his hands were tired from the previous song?

                        I know that I've played songs where I used all of my muscular endurance and bombed a song after not being sufficiently rested, then waited a bit only to dominate that song

                        or, maybe he was not familiar with the SM equivalent of harlem shake yet -- i.e. how it's displayed / timed relative to how it's timed on osu?

                        don't know how this would work in the scenario people are talking about, but perhaps these are useful explanations.

                        he has practically no motive to fake scores on SM of all places, considering this is a game where he gets the least amount of praise/attention and praise/attention is roughly the currency of these games as this is not an esport

                        edit: another explanation -- since his setup is located at the bottom of his keyboard, maybe his keyboard shifted awkwardly when he browsed a website and he hadn't repositioned it in a comfortable sport after browsing.
                        Last edited by Arch0wl; 12-13-2015, 09:30 AM.

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                        • choof
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 8563

                          #57
                          Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                          Originally posted by Arch0wl
                          another explanation -- maybe his hands were tired from the previous song?
                          it seems that the issue is that he destroyed a bunch of files, went over to reddit, and then tanked hard

                          I know that I've played songs where I used all of my muscular endurance and bombed a song after not being sufficiently rested, then waited a bit only to dominate that song
                          the reddit browsing would have been his rest

                          or, maybe he was not familiar with the SM equivalent of harlem shake yet -- i.e. how it's displayed / timed relative to how it's timed on osu?
                          it's just really dense stream
                          personally I think he'd be good at harlem shake solely based on how he's able to hit endtime on bms


                          he has practically no motive to fake scores on SM of all places, considering this is a game where he gets the least amount of praise/attention and praise/attention is roughly the currency of these games as this is not an esport
                          there's been a lot of crossover between osu!mania and stepmania recently, it's actually pretty refreshing

                          I think one motive would be that USA won the recent osu!mania world cup

                          edit: another explanation -- since his setup is located at the bottom of his keyboard, maybe his keyboard shifted awkwardly when he browsed a website and he hadn't repositioned it in a comfortable sport after browsing.
                          I get that too but it's gone after one or two songs
                          Last edited by choof; 12-13-2015, 09:42 AM.

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
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                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #58
                            Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                            Originally posted by leonid
                            I actually got myself to read some more of this

                            - Jhlee's osu scores get sniped (targeted score sniping is taken very negatively in kr btw. idk why)
                            just chiming in here, because i'm the one responsible for this particular thing

                            a.) jhlee and I had talked in the past before this retarded shit even started, and we were mutually chasing each others' scores, and when I say mutually, I mean that we were even actually talking at one point

                            b.) the whole recent thing with me score sniping wasn't even a deliberate thing, I was using jhlee as a benchmark for what I should be able to do and I played songs accordingly; certainly not anyone's fault that my success rate happened to be really high because of accuracy

                            c.) it's assumptions like this that make things hard to take, because unrelated stuff like this gets traced back to someone else when it didn't need to be, which is what prompted me to make this reddit post on the osugame reddit

                            like, how much more proof needs to be supplied that a good majority of us a.) don't give a shit about jhlee's skill and actually acknowledge the fact that he is a good player and b.) are just generally tired of his shit-tier attitude

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                            • SCWolf
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                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1662

                              #59
                              Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                              Originally posted by Arch0wl
                              edit: another explanation -- since his setup is located at the bottom of his keyboard, maybe his keyboard shifted awkwardly when he browsed a website and he hadn't repositioned it in a comfortable sport after browsing.
                              I feel like keyboard shifting position is an unlikely problem. It's pretty easy to mitigate keyboard movement and on his level of play it's likely he has that figured out.
                              Last edited by SCWolf; 12-13-2015, 10:11 AM.

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                              • EtienneSM
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                                • Jan 2013
                                • 1724

                                #60
                                Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

                                idk bout you guys, but I'm wondering how he skipped two years of progress in a month


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