ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

[tosh]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

lag is too much. damn

Yeah that's a fairly common complaint with FFR. I personally completely stopped playing FFR because Windows 8 (and then Windows 10 to a greater degree) caused FFR to lag a lot.

[Jagakon]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

So lemme get this straight...

Jhlee beats one of mina's scores. (?)
Mina not havin' it.
Investigates and makes groundbreaking discovery.
Ending has CBs, damnbruh, this shit fake!
Calls him out on it.
Jhlee not havin' it.
Does livestream with fingercam to prove he's not fake
Staiain enters the shadow realm
Jhlee's minions get on that ass.
Staiain regrets entering shadow realm
Jhlee says stepmania players are suck. (I are suck, not gonna lie)
Everyone flips shit
How dare he question my keyboard tapping accuracy
Drama brings interest to irrelevant rhythm games, yo, iz cool
K I'll just play FFR now, thx

?????

Idek who this jhlee person is in all honesty, this whole thing is just fucking ace. Mina vs jhlee livestream showdown when?

[thesunfan]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

So lemme get this straight...

Jhlee beats one of mina's scores. (?)
Mina not havin' it.
Investigates and makes groundbreaking discovery.
Ending has CBs, damnbruh, this shit fake!
Calls him out on it.
Jhlee not havin' it.
Does livestream with fingercam to prove he's not fake
Staiain enters the shadow realm
Jhlee's minions get on that ass.
Staiain regrets entering shadow realm
Jhlee says stepmania players are suck. (I are suck, not gonna lie)
Everyone flips shit
How dare he question my keyboard tapping accuracy
Drama brings interest to irrelevant rhythm games, yo, iz cool
K I'll just play FFR now, thx

?????

Idek who this jhlee person is in all honesty, this whole thing is just fucking ace. Mina vs jhlee livestream showdown when?

yeah you got it straight gj

[ca25nada]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

LEONIDS solo when

(덤으로 번역/설정 도움 필요하시면 말해주세여)

[Kamikaze1182]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

So lemme get this straight...

Jhlee beats one of mina's scores. (?)
Mina not havin' it.
Investigates and makes groundbreaking discovery.
Ending has CBs, damnbruh, this shit fake!
Calls him out on it.
Jhlee not havin' it.
Does livestream with fingercam to prove he's not fake
Staiain enters the shadow realm
Jhlee's minions get on that ass.
Staiain regrets entering shadow realm
Jhlee says stepmania players are suck. (I are suck, not gonna lie)
Everyone flips shit
How dare he question my keyboard tapping accuracy
Drama brings interest to irrelevant rhythm games, yo, iz cool
K I'll just play FFR now, thx

?????

Idek who this jhlee person is in all honesty, this whole thing is just fucking ace. Mina vs jhlee livestream showdown when?

golden frame award

[Charu]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

I'm back home

[Kyzentun]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

29 members wtf

I've got this neurotic fixation where when I go to a forum, I have to read all the threads that have new posts. It's hard to control, so I just have to keep a short list of forums.

[Kotarouchan]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

maybe jhlee needs a to play on a standalone instead

[kommisar]

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[ggsnipes]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

LEONIDS solo when

Soon(TM)

[leonid]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

I exchanged some PMs with Jhlee and he thinks Staiain is behind everything (e.g. ordered Mina to sup his SoS score and such, sent viewers to Jhlee's streams to say Staiain is better etc). Theres some misunderstanding apparently so perhaps people involved in this should explain?

[ggsnipes]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

The SoS score was mina trying judge 5 then changing back to judge 4 to my knowledge, I'm honestly sure Staiain said nothing about doing shit on his stream, he even tried to ignore everything.

[Staiain]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

I actually almost stopped playing 4K games the last weeks to try to get out of this drama shit then I get shittalked and called out and accused of everything drama related, i don't know if you're reading what people in here writes jhlee but you need to fucking stop targeting me and wrongly accuse me for everything other 4k players say. if you want to beat my scores go right ahead I don't care about that. what I do care about is your nasty attitude and shittalking behind my back and trying to spread false rumors about me as a person to other people.

I wanted to get away from this drama then i see a bunch of reddit threads where you make fun out of me and my friends and even about my personal difficulties, you can't go anly lower than this, you should be ashamed of yourself.


You make fun of my unemployment which is actually caused by serious personal issues with depression and anxiety as well as a couple other factors that adds up to make it worse, but I can't say I am jealous of your life where the only "friends" are your 12 year old fanboys, when you stop playing someay noone will care about you, they will forget you existed, unlike me who literally have hundreds and hundreds of friends who i can travel around the world to visit and spend fun time together with anytime I want. I am actually doing something with my life.

Never talk to me or about me again, I am done with your arrogant and self-centered attitude.

[Charu]

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Oh...

[Mahou]

Re: ultimate stepmania vs korea drama thread

Idek who this jhlee person is in all honesty, this whole thing is just fucking ace. Mina vs jhlee livestream showdown when?

Honestly, doing this would probably just make matters worse considering there are a lot of players that aren't even 100% sure what Jhlee is really even capable of doing in SM.

I'm not going to corner anyone and I know I'm not heavily involved with this community much anymore; however, I did take some time to read about this entire thing because I just so happened to start picking up Osumania myself. Personally, I feel like this scenario shouldn't have got this far, and the fan base from both parties are just adding more fire to the situation. If we are going to blame anyone, we should all just blame ourselves (we all fucked up...well not everyone).
Jhlee is a talented rhythm gamer overall from what I've seen - and any great player I feel should be thankful for the time and effort it takes to get to a certain point. What drives him to play games is his personal initiative; however, regardless of what rhythm game a person decides to play, it's no secret that people have to put in a good amount of time and effort to get better at the game. Limitations are only set if a person decides to let it.
After seeing a bunch of insults being thrown back and forth (Jesus, that's some nasty shit being said), I feel like this is where I feel both parties have messed up (SM community and Jhlee's fan boys). If anyone can take a look at the past of what has happened around here in the FFR community, insulting people in the heat of the moment has never really solved anything. For example (and i'm not idolizing anyone) , but I still recall when Brandon was skillboosting and people were giving him a hard time - and from what I remember, he didn't have the best attitude either when he first started getting better. Look where he is now? In my opinion, he's grown up more and matured a lot from that entire incident. I can I totally understand why some SM players would throw out the cheating card and be upset about how he caries himself. I can also understand why Jhlee's competitive mindset makes him want to prove himself to people how talented he is. These attitudes kind of conflict because I feel like most of the top tier players because are pretty humble about their skill level.
@Jhlee
If you don't like these games, why put yourself in a position to play them? If anything, you're just causing more stress for yourself if you don't get the results that you want. You have a fan base - those in which that you inspire and look up to you at the same time. In their eyes, you've already proven yourself. So why go this far?
@SM top tier players....
By the way, I left it vague like this in regards to whom I'm referring to. If it's bs, shouldn't we just let it go? Even when he's done, I don't think many people are going to accept the scores as legitimate (whether it's because he didn't show real proof or if it's because how people personally see the guy).

In regards to his legitimacy, I will say that I have also analyzed the Cyber Induction video and watched some past broadcast that he had up last week. There are definitely some sketchy things I saw and I'm not using these observations to base his legitimacy at all. If he really cares about proving his legitimacy, here are a few things that he may take in consideration why people are skeptical about his scores. If not, let it go.
Observation #1
The Cyber Induction 1.5 score didn't have any hand cam at all and is nothing but a mere recording. Any experienced SM player that would stumble upon this (without knowing who the player is) might automatically assume "that is auto play". No keytaps were involved and there weren't any receptors in that run; considering he's plays Osumania (where he has his receptors present), it's very unusual for a player to rid themselves of the receptors - especially since the timing window (most play J4) is not nearly as strict as it is in Osumania. Maybe he could explain why he took them away for this particular run?
Observation #2
I want to point out something with the hand cam as well. Maybe it has something to do with the data being sent through OBS...but there are times where it looks like the hand cam is going faster than 1x. I'm not saying Mina is right, but the first thing that came in to mind was he was switching out recordings of his hands when he was picking certain songs - almost as if he had a repertoire of what was going to be played before the stream went live. Sometimes the play looks very nonhuman like. I'm not sure if it's a flaw in the technology he's currently using, but I who knows?
Observation #3
Hand technique. I was watching Jhlee play CoS 1.1 and compared it to Mina's hand cam when he was attempting the song. One thing that really strikes my attention is the posture of his wrists. As a matter of fact, his position always remains stagnant for any song that I've seen him play. When you compare this to players like Staiain/Mina/Eze, you can see their wrists changing determining on the rate/bpm/pace of the notes. Personally, I find it physically impossible to nail a js that fast with stagnant wrists. Once again, I could be wrong.

There are more observations that I have made, but these are the first few things that came to mind when kind of started looking at everything. I don't know how much Jhlee cares about getting along with community, and I don't know how much he really cares to prove if he's legitimate. If he's just pumping out scores in a community where a lot of people dislike him, it just really seems like a waste of time. After all, most of us play this game because we find it fun in the end.
In all honesty, since most of the top tier players are old/mature enough, I think everyone should just be able to try to move on from all this. That might be difficult since the fan base from both sides kind of like the drama (like it's fucking ESPN or something), but it's possible. You don't have to like one another and be friends, but we all should be mature enough to just mind each other's space.


@Jhlee, if you really want to prove your legitimacy in SM, you could do a traditional proof proof video (i.e. Leonid's or Brandon's proof video). I'm not going to lay out the format, but it's just something to keep in mind. Welp, that's my rant.