A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

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  • Arch0wl
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 6344

    #1

    A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

    About a year ago someone suggested I buy the Logitech K120. Admittedly, I'm borderline ADHD, so I am occasionally forgetful of things like what I order or why. When I got it in the mail I used it like a regular USB keyboard and completely blanked on why I bought it. I just assumed it was because it was a good keyboard and in my mind, that was the reason and I never thought about it since.

    About an hour ago I remembered the real reason why I bought the keyboard. This is incredible:



    USB keyboards have limitations of about six presses at once. This is inadvertently why 6-key is popular on Stepmania, while 8-key (despite the game's capability for it) is not.

    To press 10 at once on one keyboard, you'd need to have a PS/2 connection and a mechanical keyboard. These are extremely expensive; worse, laptops do not generally support PS/2 keyboards. But since desktops are so uncommon now, you need a workaround.

    This method allows you to dodge the USB limitation by using two USB keyboards, with a hypothetical max input of 12 at once.

    10-key is the logical extent of how far this game can go, which is why it's been so appealing to me. Someone who is as good as you can get at 10-key has effectively maximized how good human fingers can get period. The idea is appealing on that basis alone.

    When I get some free time, I'm going to see if it's possible to mod SM SSC into 10k and make some files.
  • blindreper1179
    Vice President Of TGB
    • Jun 2006
    • 5900

    #2
    Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

    Buy me a keyboard and I'll play with you.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
    absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
    Originally posted by choof
    It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
    Originally posted by choof
    whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
    Originally posted by Celirra
    I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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    • choof
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2013
      • 8563

      #3
      Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

      piu doubles

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      • blindreper1179
        Vice President Of TGB
        • Jun 2006
        • 5900

        #4
        Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

        Nevermind, I forgot I have two.Lmao
        Originally posted by thesunfan
        absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
        Originally posted by choof
        It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
        Originally posted by choof
        whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
        Originally posted by Celirra
        I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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        • dAnceguy117
          new hand moves = dab
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2002
          • 10097

          #5
          Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

          Originally posted by choof
          piu doubles
          Yup, should be ready to go right out of the box. Just get/make a new noteskin and get to charting. Sounds fun.

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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #6
            Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

            i don't think a lot of people will try this, however i do know that a few people play lr2 with dual kbs (iirc lg is one of them)

            we tried getting 7k off the ground on kbo, not sure if you remember that but that was a few years ago and there's still less than 40 7k charts for sm

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            • lurker
              ur worst nitemare
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 1628

              #7
              Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

              i can actually hit 10 keys on my usb keyboard
              granted, said keyboard costs more than $40
              just goes to show how you should never think in absolutes

              also, 6 key popular? making a lot of assumptions there lmao
              Last edited by lurker; 12-17-2014, 08:42 AM.
              some feathery f**k

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              • Wayward Vagabond
                Confirmed Heartbreaker
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2012
                • 5866

                #8
                Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                I can hit 20+ keys at one time on my keyboard. Iyd a USB march KB though. Expensive? Yeah. Worth it? Definitely. Not even for sm just typing on a brown switch keyboard is fucking golden

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                • _Zenith_
                  Accuracy Player
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4629

                  #9
                  Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                  I remember for a portion of the tournament, iirc on Capo or Fuse, where I had used my laptop keyboard and a spare I have kicking around to play and grab the AAA. I've used two keyboards infrequently but there is something about it where it's not only fun to play on two keyboards, but impressive that you are playing with your hands further away from each other than ever before.

                  Doesn't laptop keyboards also have the power to hit 10 keys at once? I know the one I used to use was able to hit at least 7 keys without issues, but don't quote me since it's been awhile since I've even been able to play.

                  Also didn't Velocity rig FFR to play 20 keys and he even had a video of it?





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                  • gold stinger
                    Signature Extraordinare~~
                    Event Staff
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6428

                    #10
                    Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                    when can we do beatmania IIDX doubles on keyboard
                    Originally posted by YoshL
                    butts.


                    - Tosh 2014






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                    • choof
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #11
                      Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                      Originally posted by gold stinger
                      when can we do beatmania IIDX doubles on keyboard
                      you can
                      you'll just hit a wall where you'll be unable to get any better

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                      • Jousway
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 867

                        #12
                        Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                        Our mission is to create great keyboards for everyone. Whether you’re looking for a fantastic typing experience with great sound characteristics for work or fun, or a keyboard built for gaming, Ducky is the perfect choice.

                        USB N-Key Rollover (USB NKRO): Under USB, the Ducky Shine 4 can handle any number of simultaneous key presses. You can use the keyboard confidently in any situations knowing that there will never be ghosting or key blocking issue.
                        just gonna put this here

                        Originally posted by Arch0wl
                        When I get some free time, I'm going to see if it's possible to mod SM SSC into 10k and make some files.
                        SM SSC...

                        Last edited by Jousway; 12-17-2014, 11:50 AM.
                        Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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                        • Wayward Vagabond
                          Confirmed Heartbreaker
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 5866

                          #13
                          Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                          not about to spend 250 dollars on a keyboard to play rhythm games

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                          • Jousway
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 867

                            #14
                            Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            not about to spend 250 dollars on a keyboard to play rhythm games
                            you could do what I did, just buy a cheap ass beatmania controller like the
                            muse-v

                            Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #15
                              Re: A Viable 10-key Stepmania Setup

                              I have yet to purchase my fp7 but goddamn that controller looks like shit

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