Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

[Victorique]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

I'm just going to throw this in here

but you guys do know that 3.95 is known as the most unstable version of stepmania ever made, like you guys only use like 10% of the actual program so you dont really see it, but a load of shit related to smo, theming, noteskins and the list goes on and on is bugged in 3.95, like I got every single version of stepmania and I like to try out shit now and then in those versions, the most unstable version I have ever played with is 3.95 and thats really not a joke.

Whatever you say but gameplay is the most important shit in stepmania and if i play worse in sm5 (as I told you before) i won't change it. I don't care about theming and stability, gameplay is first, so until you make me a theme that i can actually have more than 400 fps i'm not gonna switch it (unless I get a new gfx card, but rip).

For example one thing I noticed is that when you turn bg to 0% in 3.95, fps actually go up ( in my pc from 300 to 550 ) and in sm5 doesn't change at all, it's weird. It's like you're putting a black screen but not really turning bg off.

PS: I know sm5 is way better than 3.95 but i'm not changing to sm5 until i get good gameplay sry

[Elite Ninja]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

I stick to 3.9 since I like its editor the most and I don't have any problems with it. SM5 just kept crashing on me and there were lots of bugs and the charts I had made were not showing up in SM5. Only reason I would use SM5 would be to play online but the sacrifice isn't worth it. Not for me that is.

[TwistedPhoenix]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

Alright, well I'm glad I asked this. It's easier to understand why you people still use it; first and foremost being FPS or Accuracy problems. I know that I would use a different version if I played a lot better on it.

But anyways, this helps clear up some things for me. Still wish some people would give it a try; it's like having a beat up old computer that runs what you want and you know inside and out, then being offered a new computer with a lot more features. After figuring out all of its quirks, you may come to enjoy it more than that old one.

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

same reason why people still play ffr

[leonid]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

The plan is for the original sm-ssc devs to make an external editor (currently named noscope) that surpasses the internal editor. (You'd have to ask shakesoda for more details, though.)

YES YES make that happen please thank you

[dAnceguy117]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

thanks for the post, AJ! that clears up several questions I had. I'll try to replicate a couple of the problems I've encountered.

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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

and if i play worse in sm5 (as I told you before) i won't change it.

Did you try calibrating the sync or maybe playing SM5 a little more to get used to whatever is making you play worse?

[kommisar]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

I do agree however that sm-ssc was far superior

the editor was much better and the game itself owned


it just didn't support negative bpm


sm5a2 also lets you choose ANY STYLE OF PLAY WHENEVER. feel like playing solo? that's ok, you don't need to exit out and select solo because all you need to do is switch charts

ex:




if sm5 doesn't run properly on your computer, it's outdated as fuc. the timing is the exact same as 3.9 (except holds, 0.50s instead of 0.25s which is silly imo) and saying you play worse in sm5 is only barely related to habit.

the scroll space is much larger (which is the reason I can't play FFR for shit) and the build is way more stable. My timing was significantly better upon switching to sm5 after a few days.

[aj187]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

the timing is the exact same as 3.9 (except holds, 0.50s instead of 0.25s which is silly imo)

that shouldn't be a problem anymore though

If you've had the program installed for a while, make sure to check Preferences.ini; I had to go into my Prefs just now and change it myself:

TimingWindowSecondsHold=0.250000

[Arntonach]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

sm5a2 also lets you choose ANY STYLE OF PLAY WHENEVER.

That's also in 3.9+, but no one really uses that version.

In my opinion, what I have is pretty good, except for the stupid assist tick bug. Otherwise, if I have to sacrifice stability for true widescreen support, I'm going to be skeptical before giving it a shot.

[Jaxxter]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

I agree except for the editor and conveniency parts which are horrible

ctrl + up/down = zoom
a = alternate options [cut/copy/etc]

Can't think of anything else that would be inconvenient, or different at all for that matter, for someone switching from 3.95.

Take it from someone who has

Can't set cmod in editor mode
oh noes might have to type ctrl + up

[dAnceguy117]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

If you've had the program installed for a while, make sure to check Preferences.ini; I had to go into my Prefs just now and change it myself:

TimingWindowSecondsHold=0.250000

oh awesome, I was gonna ask about that. hooray for appropriate hold droppage!

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

same reason why people still play ffr

[Staiain]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

The biggest problem I have at the moment is it gets choppy on some simfiles, especially if they are made in DDREAM and have many bpm changes or just hard as **** files with a million arrows on the screen at the same time it has frameskipping which ruins the already limited consentration I have but other than that it's awesome

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

same reason why people still play ffr