Legality of simfiles?

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  • jimerax
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Nov 2003
    • 8185

    #16
    Re: Legality of simfiles?

    Yeah we removed simfile database due to both capacity occupation and risks from illegality (and it's impossible for us to check all files too).

    Currently only limited people see this forum and download the simfiles, and luckily we haven't got actual claims for linked simfiles/packs on the forum from music authors (and maybe graphic artists), as far as I know. Letting users post illegal contents on the forum might be illegal too, but currently we're not checking/deleting the links/threads very strictly in the simulator files forum.

    It's one of our underlying issues.

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    • bmah
      shots FIRED
      Profile Moderator
      FFR Simfile Author
      Global Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 8448

      #17
      Re: Legality of simfiles?

      Originally posted by jimerax
      Currently only limited people see this forum and download the simfiles
      Wow, so it really still exists then, huh? I've wanted this sort of confirmation for a long time. That being said, Choofers really wanted a file from the simfile database, but no one really had an answer to whether it existed until now. Could he get his file retrieved? See here.

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      • who_cares973
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 15407

        #18
        Re: Legality of simfiles?

        turn the simulator forum into a member only forum and bam

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        • ddrxero64
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2008
          • 790

          #19
          Re: Legality of simfiles?

          Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
          remember that time on smo where they wanted simfile authors to make money for their files o:
          Originally posted by leonid
          I think a simfile can be sold if it only contains stepcharts, graphics (either made by yourself or cropped from pictures with licenses that allow you to sell them) and a README file indicating how to get the mp3 file and how to cut it.
          Exactly. Or more precisely, we have the person send us a link to the mp3 they want to use (whether they uploaded it or not). If even that's questionable (which I kinda doubt), they could just send us the name of the song, and we'd have to find a download link that matches the exact original copy, aka the 320 kbps version of the mp3. Then send the person back everything but the mp3, with an instruction telling them to put the mp3 in the song folder (assuming it's a stepping service, and not just simfiles for sale).

          leave it to one man to take down the entire system though. it never worked out, no one wanted to put themselves out there, i guess they thought it'd make them look like a sell out. then someone disagreed with the idea, decided to do their own thing, but didnt actually commit to it. so it ruined both sides (kinda sounds like stuff SMO.com went through)

          it was disappointing really, one guy wanted to donate the money he made to disaster relief
          Last edited by ddrxero64; 03-23-2012, 12:51 PM.

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          • UserNameGoesHere
            FFR Veteran
            • May 2008
            • 1114

            #20
            Re: Legality of simfiles?

            Originally posted by who_cares973
            turn the simulator forum into a member only forum and bam
            That's not really a good idea because if it can be shown that potentially questionable activity is intentionally hidden specifically because it may be questionable? That would look very very bad. Plus it's easy enough to become a member so members-only is not deterring anybody.

            Probably better to just deal with issues as they arise, have posters be responsible for their own stuff, and fully cooperate with authorities if it ever comes to that.
            Originally posted by Crashfan3
            Man, what would we do without bored rednecks?
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            • jimerax
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Nov 2003
              • 8185

              #21
              Re: Legality of simfiles?

              Originally posted by bmah
              Wow, so it really still exists then, huh? I've wanted this sort of confirmation for a long time. That being said, Choofers really wanted a file from the simfile database, but no one really had an answer to whether it existed until now. Could he get his file retrieved? See here.
              I'm sure synth (or ap?) has the whole backup of simfile DB (6 giga-bytes iirc).

              so, technically they can be revived I guess.

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