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  • dAnceguy117
    new hand moves = dab
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 10097

    #31
    Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

    Originally posted by Afrobean
    ps one thing: drums have weird kick patterns sometimes. Like, not even what it should be at all. Really annoying, especially when it's telling me to kick on every 1st beat of every other measure, and yet naturally, I feel as though I should be kicking on every beat. In short, I'd do ****ty on drums due to wanting to kick more or if I increase difficulty, I'd get ****ed up by more difficult patterns and rhythms. Then again, similar thing with me and guitar: hard has the right intricacy of patterns, but 5th fret has a tendency to **** me up a lot.
    Lower difficulties feel less like you're playing drums. You need to take yourself out of drum-playing mode to play Medium, I think. Just get used to reading where the kicks are and the other patterns. It's hard to read at first, but you can pick up on each type of pattern because they're similar from song to song. The main patterns are, anyway. drumbs lols

    Originally posted by Afrobean
    ps I was disappointed by lack of a satchel or something to hold the drum sticks, so I attached an old sock 8) Also: I'm gonna pull out some of my old drum sticks because these ones are a pile of **** and I feel like they're gonna break-- also freaking splintery or something and that sucks. But yeah I think I still have a kick ass set of black sticks with my snare from junior high.
    What? There's a spot for the sticks. It works pretty well, or at least, probably better than an old sock. Yeah, the sticks in the bundle are pretty terrible. They're passable, I guess. Finding someone with excess drumsticks shouldn't be to much of a hassle anyway, though.

    Originally posted by jecht3009046
    The guitar for RockBand felt king of crappy. The buttons seemed to stick when I pressed them. The drums were REALLY easy on hard and expert. 94% on Expert on my 3rd song (playing on the drums). I forget which song it was. The drums are really fun, none the less. Haven't tried vocals yet. I feel like a bit more work could have been put into the whole game and hardware, but its fun and definitely worth the money.
    I haven't found any issue with the fret buttons on the guitar. The drums will get much, much harder. They're really easy for a while, but they get VERY hard.

    Originally posted by ddr_f4n
    As soon as my 360 is fixed, I'm not going to bother buying the guitars. I just need the drums, mic and game (I already have 2 guitars from GH2 and GH3).
    I think buying the package would still be cheaper. The really high fret buttons are fun to use, anyway. If you have a headset, though, I think that works for the mic, in which case just buying the drums and game might be cheaper than the package.

    Yesterday, I thought I was going to get used to the strum bar really quickly. Today I was having some pretty major problems. I think some of it was my friend's HDTV, though. Started having some really weird lag issues that occurred for like a minute out of an hour. It was just the guitar, though, so I don't really know. I'll just keep assuming I'll get used to it. It's cool not having the clicky sound, but it's REALLY annoying to have the bassist playing the rhythm poorly and having it throw you off.

    I had a really major issue with the drum pads today. We ended up having Run to the Hills picked for us, and I was playing on expert. Now, a pattern came up that I can actually do very well, because it's utilized REALLY heavily in a few DrumMania songs. It's the kind of pattern where you hit 16ths on the hi-hat and hit the snare every half note. I thought I was playing it at least fairly well, but my meter thing was dropping like a brick. After failing, we messed around with drums in practice for a little while. We noticed that the pads' ability to register fast drumming is less than satisfactory. Now, this isn't for sure, as we didn't have anything really hard to test it with, but that's what we came up with. It'd be less drastic if songs didn't require this, which they do. Hopefully exaggerating the alternation between sticks isn't the only solution.

    I dunno, it's still really, really awesome right now. I almost made it past the organ solo on that The Who song on drums with me and the two guitars abusing the living hell out of overdrive. It's damn hard. Plus, if you play solo drums, it's really hard to abuse overdrive at all. Drums are definitely not easy.

    Can't wait to play more. Should be able to play all day Friday.

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    • dawg4321
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2005
      • 1913

      #32
      Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

      I'll agree that the drum parts are incredibly easy, but I am also a drummer. The bass pedal might make it harder though considering I was only playing on the four. The game itself looks pretty sweet, but the sad thing is...none of my friends are good at guitar hero so it really wouldn't be fun to play with them. Anyways, what songs are on RockBand?
      Last edited by dawg4321; 11-22-2007, 09:26 AM.


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      • Afrombean
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2007
        • 285

        #33
        Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

        Originally posted by dawg4321
        I'll agree that the drum parts are incredibly easy, but I am also a drummer. The bass pedal might make it harder though considering I was only playing on the four. The game itself looks pretty sweet, but the sad thing is...none of my friends are good at guitar hero so it really wouldn't be fun to play with them. Anyways, what songs are on RockBand?


        That said, how can I get those songs

        Are they only unlockable in one player mode? Or do they just take a long time to make them available?

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        • mr.mooman
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2007
          • 82

          #34
          Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

          hey i was wondering how the drums fell because i am a drummer myself and would like to try it out if it is worth the money

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          • Afrobean
            Admiral in the Red Army
            • Dec 2003
            • 13262

            #35
            Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

            Originally posted by mr.mooman
            hey i was wondering how the drums fell because i am a drummer myself and would like to try it out if it is worth the money
            To paraphrase what I've already said in the thread:

            the kicks will feel weird on the low difficulties so you might have some trouble getting used to it on easy or medium

            but the intricacy of the patterns might be too hard for you to get used to jumping into things at the beginning

            Once you're used to it, you should be doing just fine, but there is that hump to get over. As a point of reference, I just started single player mode after playing what must have been like half of multiplayer world tour (most of it was guitar though), and within 2 songs I had it clicked in my head how I needed to do things on medium difficulty.

            And as a drummer, you might feel awkward with the setup as well. They're aligned like marching quad toms. It's not a big deal though, really, and despite not being as right as it could be, it plays just fine.

            ps wtf who said there was a thing to hold the sticks because I got freaking nothing over here and I am really confused take a freaking picture of it or something.

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            • mr.mooman
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2007
              • 82

              #36
              Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

              thanks i kinda thought they should have set it up more like a real drum set not like quads also why not get a stick bag?

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              • Afrobean
                Admiral in the Red Army
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                #37
                Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                Originally posted by mr.mooman
                thanks i kinda thought they should have set it up more like a real drum set not like quads also why not get a stick bag?
                If I was going to invest money on this deal, I'd probably buy a pair of sticks before a freaking bag (couldn't find my old sticks :'( ).

                Oh by the way, I was doing so good on Medium that I decided to try drumming on Hard. Did rather well with it, so I decided to try Expert. Got my freaking ass handed to me. Changing from Hard to Expert made it go from simple beat with simple kick to kinda challenging beat and CRAZY kick.

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                • mr.mooman
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 82

                  #38
                  Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                  then i guess the difficulty settings are the same as guitar hero because hard is way easier than expert. also has the drum set screwed up at all since you bought it?

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                  • dAnceguy117
                    new hand moves = dab
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10097

                    #39
                    Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                    Originally posted by Afrobean
                    ps wtf who said there was a thing to hold the sticks because I got freaking nothing over here and I am really confused take a freaking picture of it or something.


                    Stick 'em in there, tip-end first.

                    Originally posted by Afrombean
                    That said, how can I get those songs

                    Are they only unlockable in one player mode? Or do they just take a long time to make them available?
                    Takes a while. Collect fans, stars, etc. Increase difficulties if you're not getting any fans. I don't think it goes by average difficulty, but rather the lowest difficulty being played on by any member.

                    Originally posted by Afrobean
                    Oh by the way, I was doing so good on Medium that I decided to try drumming on Hard. Did rather well with it, so I decided to try Expert. Got my freaking ass handed to me. Changing from Hard to Expert made it go from simple beat with simple kick to kinda challenging beat and CRAZY kick.
                    Now that's what I'm talking about, haha. It's probably a much easier transition for me, because I don't play drums, and I've played quite a bit of DrumMania.

                    Originally posted by mr.mooman
                    also has the drum set screwed up at all since you bought it?
                    I haven't noticed any deterioration of quality, but I'm still worried about how well it registers really fast drumming.

                    Didn't get to play at all today, but I think I should be playing all day again tomorrow. yusss

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5370

                      #40
                      Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                      Just a few Qs Afro.

                      Does the petal add that much to how hard it is? I've played the Demo songs on Expert and lmfao....but if that petal (That wasnt in the demo) Kicks it up then maybe it'll be fun. I played quite a few turns on Purcussion Master so I want it harder then that if I want to buy it.

                      Will the GH Controllers work, or well they work with an option that you turn off the high frets, or not at all? Heard alot of things about this.

                      Also, someone tell me if the Vocals are easy to do or if the game keeps saying your offkey.
























                      Oh yeah for the 2nd game they should add BM I would love that

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                      • timotolkki11
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 68

                        #41
                        Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                        Originally posted by dAnceguy117


                        Stick 'em in there, tip-end first.
                        That way works fine, but there are two tabs on the yellow and blue pads that pull-out and work much better.

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                        • Telvanni_guard
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 1031

                          #42
                          Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                          In the single player tour there are actually two tours. The first is a normal tour with a 5 song setlist and continuing on. The other tour is more like the "encore" songs from Guitar Hero.

                          This game is freaking godly though. Of the 58 songs on the main list only 7 aren't master tracks. That's right. 51 tracks are. Not counting the bonus songs or the downloadable content.. Speaking of downloadable content..

                          Hey Afro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band

                          Quote from the actual link:
                          How did you guys decide on the bands and songs that made it into Rock Band?

                          Dan Teasdale: At the start of the project, we created our dream list of bands. We had a list of about 2000 or 3000 songs that we whittled down into a list of 200 or 300 songs, and then we went out and tried to get all of those songs. We had an amazing response, and all of the labels were really, really responsive as to some of the bands that we could get. We were able to get The Who, which we never were able to get before, we were able to get the whole of “Nevermind” from Nirvana, which was way beyond our expectations and is incredibly awesome. In terms of the thought process behind it, we wanted to get the whole spectrum of rock, from the 1960s to today, essentially.

                          Cream yourself... now.


                          By the by... Green Grass and High Tides will kick people's asses on Guitar. It's pretty freaking intense on the solos.

                          And I consider myself good on Expert (didn't pass Jordan or Six though. Sadface), and though I did well on most songs, Ballroom Blitz and Dead on Arrival (Sweet and Fallout Boy) taught me the meaning of humility with their chords. Got better on Ballroom Blitz, but still crap on Dead on Arrival.


                          Also: There was no topic because everyone who has it is playing it. Personally, I caused pain in my thumb so.. I'm taking it easy for a few.


                          Bah! I keep forgetting crap. There is a difference between the GH controllers while playing Rock Band. When you have the Rock Band controller during the solos, you do not have to strum at all if you play on the bottom Frets.
                          Last edited by Telvanni_guard; 11-23-2007, 07:42 AM.

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                          • Afrobean
                            Admiral in the Red Army
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 13262

                            #43
                            Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                            Originally posted by timotolkki11
                            That way works fine, but there are two tabs on the yellow and blue pads that pull-out and work much better.
                            Those may work in an acceptable fashion during gameplay, but no way in hell would I be able to keep the sticks there during storage. Like really, would it have been that expensive for them to add something in for that? They could have gotten Vic Firth to sponsor it in the same way they got Fender on the guitars.


                            Originally posted by Telvanni_guard
                            In the single player tour there are actually two tours. The first is a normal tour with a 5 song setlist and continuing on. The other tour is more like the "encore" songs from Guitar Hero.
                            Yeah I haven't touched the bonus tour yet.

                            This game is freaking godly though. Of the 58 songs on the main list only 7 aren't master tracks. That's right. 51 tracks are. Not counting the bonus songs or the downloadable content.. Speaking of downloadable content..
                            Yeah, but what kind of a ratio does GH3 have? I do believe it's something similar.

                            Hey Afro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band

                            Quote from the actual link:
                            How did you guys decide on the bands and songs that made it into Rock Band?

                            Dan Teasdale: At the start of the project, we created our dream list of bands. We had a list of about 2000 or 3000 songs that we whittled down into a list of 200 or 300 songs, and then we went out and tried to get all of those songs. We had an amazing response, and all of the labels were really, really responsive as to some of the bands that we could get. We were able to get The Who, which we never were able to get before, we were able to get the whole of “Nevermind” from Nirvana, which was way beyond our expectations and is incredibly awesome. In terms of the thought process behind it, we wanted to get the whole spectrum of rock, from the 1960s to today, essentially.

                            Cream yourself... now.
                            I knew about that... that's why I said Nevermind specifically and not Toxicity or any number of other albums that I love.

                            Bah! I keep forgetting crap. There is a difference between the GH controllers while playing Rock Band. When you have the Rock Band controller during the solos, you do not have to strum at all if you play on the bottom Frets.
                            If I recall, those sections work like hammer-ons/pull-offs if you're playing on the upper frets, but on the bottom ones, you don't need to strum at all.


                            And has anyone heard any news about drivers for these controllers for computer? I'm sure that SOMEONE with the knowledge is working on it.

                            EDIT: one more thing: did anyone find it HILARIOUS that they used Dead on Arrival rather than a newer song? That song is on the album Take This to Your Grave-- it is on Fueled By Ramen records. This album came out before their mainstream success with From Under the Cork Tree. Seriously, if FFR was ever to get permission to use a song by Fallout Boy, it would be off of this album. You think they cheaped-out and went to Fueled By Ramen instead of Island for their newest album? On top of this, if they were going to use a song off of Take This to Your Grave, WHY DIDN'T THEY USE GRAND THEFT AUTUMN
                            Last edited by Afrobean; 11-23-2007, 08:33 AM.

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                            • ddranthony92
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 487

                              #44
                              Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                              OMG like i just went on the XBL marketplace and you can buy blackend,and justice for all and ride the lightning to play it almost sold it,for me its either rock band or $150 (plus the other stuff i asked for) maybe if there were more songs up to buy that i like then ill buy RB but im deff. getting GH3 first.
                              XBL Gamertag: ddranthony92
                              Games:
                              Call of Duty 4
                              Rock Band
                              Rock Band 2

                              Wanna see ?!?!?

                              How about my !?!?!

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                              • Telvanni_guard
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1031

                                #45
                                Re: RockBand. More Awesome.

                                Just going on the single player and not on the co-op, subtracting battles there are:

                                39 songs on Guitar Hero.

                                39+24 bonus songs = 63 songs total (including the bonus ones)
                                19 are not master tracks.
                                Meaning: 44 are master tracks.

                                Total Master tracks excluding the bonus songs: 21
                                Total Bonus song master tracks: 23
                                Last edited by Telvanni_guard; 11-23-2007, 08:44 AM.

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