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  • -KIDTHONG-
    FFR Veteran
    • Sep 2007
    • 578

    #1

    Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

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    That does not sound like a good idea.
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  • Jerry DB
    FFR, lift, repeat
    • Jan 2008
    • 2071

    #2
    Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

    I think your on to something with this. Maybe instead of bars there should be an official grading system.

    Like instead of level 1, or level 3 or whatever you would have a ranking.

    The lowest being newb and the highest being Laggy or whatever.

    It's a good idea basically.
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    • foilman8805
      smoke wheat hail satin
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2006
      • 5704

      #3
      Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

      Wow, I actually really like this idea.

      This has some potential - though with Tier Points, this system is kind of already in place, don't you think?

      Maybe if you can come up with a more detailed system...like exactly how levels are gained, more people would become interested.

      I'm definitely for this idea though, and I would love to see an unconventional ranking system...something original and new.

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      • Hana-Sama hehe...
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2006
        • 1

        #4
        Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

        That sounds awesome.

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        • -KIDTHONG-
          FFR Veteran
          • Sep 2007
          • 578

          #5
          Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

          yeah foil your right about the tier system. i thought about that but you know the tier system is only good for people that are good. its not somthing for everyone yah know?
          yeah i posted this because i need help on making it a better idea. somthing the admins would buy :]
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          • foilman8805
            smoke wheat hail satin
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2006
            • 5704

            #6
            Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

            Yeah, I understand. The TP system literally represents like 2.5% of the playing population, if that.

            How would you do this system...would it be based on, say, experience? Like a AAA is worth 3 points, and a FC is worth 1 point, and levels are based on a point system?

            For example:

            Level 1: 0-10 points
            Level 2: 10-30 points
            Level 3: 30-60 points

            ...and so on. Tell us your ideas, man. This is your thread. =)

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            • wwwJ4mmYcouk
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2005
              • 1031

              #7
              Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

              I still like the idea of the charts to see what you have left to play, and to see what you have to FC, and AAA.
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              • foilman8805
                smoke wheat hail satin
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2006
                • 5704

                #8
                Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                That idea could easily be incorporated with this one.

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                • -KIDTHONG-
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 578

                  #9
                  Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                  Hmm.. that would make a level go to maybe an even number. instead of level 26. lol that point system would also give new songs a chance to break into the system alot faster. that sounds like an awesome idea lol.
                  SDG 2 points.
                  i kinda wanted people to be able to see if they are able to FC/AAA all this difficulty or something like that
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                  • foilman8805
                    smoke wheat hail satin
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5704

                    #10
                    Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                    I like the 2 point SDG. That would fit nicely right in between.

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                    • Fractal_Monkey
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 464

                      #11
                      Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                      Idea 1 sounds interesting, and wouldn't really be any more difficult to implement than the current Tier Point system, since they're quite similar. It reminds me of a simpler version of that amateur tier system idea that was tossed around a while back.

                      Something I noticed: as new songs are added, the number of points available will be constantly increasing, and so regular tweaks of the level requirements would be needed. I'd suggest having the number of points you've got expressed as a proportion of the total number of points available, say out of 1000 for simplicity. Then work out the level requirements from that. That way the level requirements wouldn't need changing unless there was a sudden influx of really easy/hard songs.

                      Example: If there were 500 points on offer, and I had 225 points, my "rating" would be (225/500)*1000 = 450. My level would be whatever 450 corresponded to on the requirements list.

                      Also, are all songs given the same weight, in that a AAA of Free Space is just as valuable as a AAA of Frictional Nevada? Would you want to assign a greater weight to more difficult songs instead? If so, how about multiplying the point rewards by the difficulty of the song? For example, AAAing a 1 (Free Space) would give 3*1 = 1 point, SDGing a 9 (CIA Rave) would give 2*9 = 18 points, etc. This second idea's more of an afterthought though.

                      /unintentional hijack

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                      • Xx{Midnight}xX
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 8548

                        #12
                        Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                        Keep the bars but add the level idea. It's like the teir system just sounds more forgiving.

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                        • -KIDTHONG-
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 578

                          #13
                          Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                          Originally posted by Fractal_Monkey
                          Idea 1 sounds interesting, and wouldn't really be any more difficult to implement than the current Tier Point system, since they're quite similar. It reminds me of a simpler version of that amateur tier system idea that was tossed around a while back.

                          Something I noticed: as new songs are added, the number of points available will be constantly increasing, and so regular tweaks of the level requirements would be needed. I'd suggest having the number of points you've got expressed as a proportion of the total number of points available, say out of 1000 for simplicity. Then work out the level requirements from that. That way the level requirements wouldn't need changing unless there was a sudden influx of really easy/hard songs.

                          Example: If there were 500 points on offer, and I had 225 points, my "rating" would be (225/500)*1000 = 450. My level would be whatever 450 corresponded to on the requirements list.

                          Also, are all songs given the same weight, in that a AAA of Free Space is just as valuable as a AAA of Frictional Nevada? Would you want to assign a greater weight to more difficult songs instead? If so, how about multiplying the point rewards by the difficulty of the song? For example, AAAing a 1 (Free Space) would give 3*1 = 1 point, SDGing a 9 (CIA Rave) would give 2*9 = 18 points, etc. This second idea's more of an afterthought though.

                          /unintentional hijack
                          Yeah... Well it's easy enough for them to keep adding to this AAA/FC bar on your profile page then it should be easy to add the points to any system we make. If not then there should be another admin just for that cause.

                          I like that idea of multiplying... I was going to think about that more on though. Ill still add it to the ideas :]
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                          • Xx{Midday}xX
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3518

                            #14
                            Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                            More tiers for everyone.

                            Stats that should be considered:
                            AAA count
                            1 impurity count (boo/avg/good)
                            current Tier Point point system count
                            FC count
                            Overall FFR Rank
                            Average Levelrank
                            Skill token

                            Name the levels, consider how a player level can be calculated, and add graphics to them. Then, we can support you by critiquing.

                            Extension: How to make level requirements.
                            This is an arbitrary example, much in need of critiquing, but this could be the general idea.
                            50 FCs = 1 point (max 20 points ish) <- lost when impurified or AAAd
                            10 impurities = 1 point (max 100 points ish) <- lost when AAAd
                            5 AAAs = 1 point (max 200 points ish)
                            1 Tier Point not obtained from AAA count = 1 point (max 600 points ish)
                            Level Rank 1-10 = 100 points, Level Rank 11-50 = 75 points etc. -> Level Rank 500+ = 0 points (max 100 points ish)
                            Overall 1-10 = 100 points, Overall 11-50 = 75 points etc. -> Overall FFR Rank 1000+ = 0 points (max 100 points ish)
                            Skill tokens can each have their own points. Eien Meikyu would be like 0 while Otaku Oni would be like 10. (max 50 points ish)
                            Total max = 1100 ish

                            Further Extension: Status that appears below your custom title/ in siggys
                            <100 points = Rookie
                            101-300 points = Player
                            301-600 points = Pro
                            701-900 points = Master
                            901-1000 points = Guru
                            1000+ points = God

                            NOTE: These numbers are completely arbitrary. They might not even make sense. Someone can do the calculations and put proper numbers in their place. I'm just outlining possibilities.

                            If this idea proves to be worth while, feel free to put it on the first post.
                            Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 06-27-2008, 04:18 PM.
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                            • -KIDTHONG-
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 578

                              #15
                              Re: Something I think would be awesome to add to our FFR

                              after we find and work out this whole thing ill make a new post showing what we want and have a real vote. try to get the admins to see what the actual players want.

                              i want a system that has every song in it. that way if someone is better at another song it wont affect their points as much. also it will show someones overall stats better then any other system we have. the Average Rank system is a little messed up because who knows i could have made 100 accounts and AAA'ed this one song making someone who can only BF the song 100 ranks higher. somthing i have always wanted also is to know EVERY songs number of goods, averages, misses, ect.. i look at my average rank and i only see the rank. i know i could get an SDG on this song but i have no idea how many i have unless its on the Tier list. in other words there are alot of songs i know i can do better on i just dont know which ones.

                              Any system will work i would just like the system to be the most understandable and one that is most likely to help people realize where they are. help them get better in anyway. something to help them want to do better even.

                              I like your idea midnight but how many people would understand that. then again why would the admins add another tier system when there is already one out. we need something different that they would see we might need. maybe we just need a better tier system that all users could get into not one that only 500 players in this game could even handle.its not a bad system its just not for everyone.
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