Expanding the difficulty spectrum

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

65 is all VCs, and Novo Mundo which used to be FMO
66-76 is all FMOs, with the addition of For FFR at 67, which used to be VC
77 and 78 are a combination of FMOs and FGOs
79+ is all FGOs/FSOs

Any other songs you guys see fit to be tweaked around on that list? Otherwise I'll send the final draft to a game manager.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Hey, was going to type this yesterday but shit came up.

Proposal: Why not make Crowdpleaser v1 the Skill token and then make Crowdpleaser v2 the song to unlock it on? It would wipe Crowdpleaser from the level ranks and it would be one less Bullshit song we have to rate because of fucking framer trills.

Just wondering, Anyone else think this would be the wisest choice?

+1
Also I wouldn't mind RATO being made into a token. How about pass DP to unlock?

[SK8R43]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

+1
Also I wouldn't mind RATO being made into a token. How about pass DP to unlock?

Only thing is, not everyone can pass DP... lol

[Poison-]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Any other songs you guys see fit to be tweaked around on that list?

I don't think Eclipse should be a 90. I think it should go in with CCCP.

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

More opinions on Eclipse because I'm incredibly iffy on that one...scoreboard definitely says it could be moved down, but man, 330bpm stream is brutally fast. I'm sure most lower level players find that to be the toughest file in the 90s.

[Poison-]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

I just don't see Eclipse really being any harder than La Camp, or even Scrap Syndrome. I see why low level players would think it's ridiculous though.

[Jake Ferguson]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Not really good when it comes to files rated that high, but I think I Hate The 80s would be better as a 81/82 than an 83 (Better as an 81 imo because similarity to ERB and mutant corecore)

[Poison-]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Not really good when it comes to files rated that high, but I think I Hate The 80s would be better as a 81/82 than an 83 (Better as an 81 imo because similarity to ERB and mutant corecore)

Remember that pretty much everything will be switched around. ERB is definitely not an 82 anymore.

[bballa48]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Ummm guys, I Hate the 80s has brutal freaking patterns. Not that hard to mash through, but really hard to control several of the transitions. Easily 82 status on the "old scale", so I say 83. 82 at the lowest. Not a chance it is an 81.

Also, I don't get the ERB thing either. Frame fixes don't change the superb amount of jack control required to play it well.

[EzExZeRo7497]

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I find I Hate The 80s as difficult as Lawn Wake II honestly, but I'm probably biased because I'm decent at jacking/one hand trill transitions.

Wouldn't mind seeing it as 82, need more opinions though.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Also, I don't get the ERB thing either. Frame fixes don't change the superb amount of jack control required to play it well.

This is a good point, but the frames do make a huge difference in hitting the parts. The jacking parts were sped up from the previous 2 framers and made things more awkward to transition through.

Eclipse (Solar) is fine where it is. Almost There was much easier to play back in the day when I had to mash Eclipse. Almost There may be more physically demanding but Eclipse is a lot harder to read through and recover from if you mess up somewhere in the stream. Biased opinion incoming, but I had to mirror eclipse because the roll transitions in the big stream were awful nonmirror (I've AAA'd the big stream off mirror but it was much more awkward), so it's not like the patterns are easy either.

[Poison-]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Maybe my opinion is just biased, because I really don't find Eclipse to be that hard.

[EzExZeRo7497]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

I think Eclipse is just fine as it is, it definitely fits with the other three files and it's ridiculously hard to be consistent on.

[~Zeta~]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Eclipse isn't just about the huge section. Those awkward bursts, jacks, and ending are brutal as well. It's fine with Almost There. Eclipse is definitely easier to combo than AT (which may contribute to the scoreboard differences).

[bmah]

Re: Expanding the difficulty spectrum

Thanks to Dossar, frames have been fixed in Vortex. The file should play more smoothly now.