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  • Bronely
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2012
    • 20

    #826
    Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

    I'm a bit confused as to why my FFR Rank is not going down (or up).
    I'm not sure if this has something to do with the new skill ranks or if something's wrong, but I worry that if I get a new PB, it won't count for anything.

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    • SK8R43
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Jan 2008
      • 4683

      #827
      Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

      lol, went and aaad it and stayed like that.

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      • SK8R43
        D7 Elite Keymasher
        • Jan 2008
        • 4683

        #828
        Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

        ALSO.


        Originally posted by PrawnSkunk
        Because profiles were loading unreasonably slowly, I had to reverse the update filtering banned users from the Average Rank and Grandtotal Rank displayed on profiles until we can rank players by user ID (integer comparison) instead of by username (string comparison).
        Still not the same, at least on mine. rank 24 on my profile and rank 27 in my levelranks. But that makes sense.
        Last edited by SK8R43; 05-3-2015, 02:20 PM.
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        • PrawnSkunk
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          • Dec 2007
          • 3907

          #829
          Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

          Originally posted by SK8R43
          Still not the same, at least on mine. rank 24 on my profile and rank 27 in my levelranks. But that makes sense.
          This is correct. Your raw average rank (26.4021) is displayed at the bottom of your levelranks. Your average rank leaderboard ranking (#24) is displayed on your profile.

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          • SK8R43
            D7 Elite Keymasher
            • Jan 2008
            • 4683

            #830
            Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

            Why would they be different?

            Average rank should be the average of all the songs youve played, not by the leaderboard.
            Last edited by SK8R43; 05-3-2015, 02:51 PM.
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            • tosh
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              • Jul 2003
              • 1018

              #831
              Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

              Originally posted by SK8R43
              Why would they be different?

              Average rank should be the average of all the songs youve played, not by the leaderboard.
              The reason there is a disparity is because FFR allows multiple people to have the same rank on a file. Say you have 7 people who each have AAA'd all but one file. Each of them would have an avrank very close to 1.0. However, someone among those 7 has to have a slightly worse avrank than the other 6, so their ranking on the avrank leaderboard would be 7 even though they have an avrank that is 1.x

              If FFR did leaderboards the same way osu does then this disparity wouldn't exist, but I think most people here prefer FFR's leaderboard system over osu's.

              Edit: Actually I'm dumb. Let's look at another example of how this can happen:
              Let's assume FFR has 10 files in-game and 5 members. The following are their levelranks:
              Person A
              Song 1: Rank 1
              Song 2: Rank 1
              Song 3: Rank 1
              Song 4: Rank 1
              Song 5: Rank 1
              Song 6: Rank 5
              Song 7: Rank 5
              Song 8: Rank 5
              Song 9: Rank 5
              Song 10: Rank 5

              Person B
              Song 1: Rank 2
              Song 2: Rank 2
              Song 3: Rank 2
              Song 4: Rank 2
              Song 5: Rank 2
              Song 6: Rank 2
              Song 7: Rank 2
              Song 8: Rank 2
              Song 9: Rank 2
              Song 10: Rank 2

              Person C
              Song 1: Rank 3
              Song 2: Rank 3
              Song 3: Rank 3
              Song 4: Rank 3
              Song 5: Rank 3
              Song 6: Rank 3
              Song 7: Rank 3
              Song 8: Rank 3
              Song 9: Rank 3
              Song 10: Rank 3

              Person D
              Song 1: Rank 4
              Song 2: Rank 4
              Song 3: Rank 4
              Song 4: Rank 4
              Song 5: Rank 4
              Song 6: Rank 4
              Song 7: Rank 4
              Song 8: Rank 4
              Song 9: Rank 4
              Song 10: Rank 4

              Person E
              Song 1: Rank 5
              Song 2: Rank 5
              Song 3: Rank 5
              Song 4: Rank 5
              Song 5: Rank 5
              Song 6: Rank 1
              Song 7: Rank 1
              Song 8: Rank 1
              Song 9: Rank 1
              Song 10: Rank 1
              As we can see, Persons A and E have an avrank of 2.5
              Person B has an avrank of 2.
              Person C has an avrank of 3.
              Person D has an avrank of 4.

              However, the following would be their ranking on the avrank leaderboards:
              Person B: 1
              Persons A & E: 2
              Person C: 4
              Person D: 5
              Last edited by tosh; 05-3-2015, 03:49 PM.

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              • benguino
                Kawaii Desu Ne?
                • Dec 2007
                • 4186

                #832
                Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                The average rank leaderboard you can think of as an (average rank) rank.
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                • pockx
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 27

                  #833
                  Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                  After each game I play it gives my rank as the last number minus one. The rank ends at 750 and I'm ranked 751, its showing failed ranking... Help it should have been ranked 30 out of the score I received. Thanks god bless love you may the holy spirit guide thy soul!♥XOXO


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                  • PrawnSkunk
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                    FFR Administrator
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3907

                    #834
                    Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                    Originally posted by pockx
                    After each game I play it gives my rank as the last number minus one. The rank ends at 750 and I'm ranked 751, its showing failed ranking... Help it should have been ranked 30 out of the score I received. Thanks god bless love you may the holy spirit guide thy soul!♥XOXO
                    Could you post a screenshot of the bug? The ranking system changed dramatically last month, so it is possible some numbers are still wonky.

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                    • Rapta
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1948

                      #835
                      Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                      Originally posted by PrawnSkunk
                      Could you post a screenshot of the bug? The ranking system changed dramatically last month, so it is possible some numbers are still wonky.
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                      • Bronely
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 20

                        #836
                        Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                        Originally posted by Bronely
                        I'm a bit confused as to why my FFR Rank is not going down (or up).
                        I'm not sure if this has something to do with the new skill ranks or if something's wrong, but I worry that if I get a new PB, it won't count for anything.
                        So, my FFR rank has gone up by two. This is odd.

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                        • PrawnSkunk
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                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3907

                          #837
                          Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                          Originally posted by Bronely
                          So, my FFR rank has gone up by two. This is odd.
                          I banned two players for cheating yesterday. Banned and blacklisted players are removed from the leaderboards, so enjoy your free ranks!

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                          • sickufully
                            Sir Krisk
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 930

                            #838
                            Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                            A player called 'armandornd' just appeared on the Recent Achievements list for 100,000 games played. Only thing is, their profile says they're banned, presumably months ago because their last activity says 22nd March 2015.

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                            • SK8R43
                              D7 Elite Keymasher
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4683

                              #839
                              Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                              They played 97 games today
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                              • Mourningfall
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1627

                                #840
                                Re: Bugs that don't deserve their own thread

                                Since R^3 doesn't record scores <1 the "skill" token ~Absolute Zero~ isn't obtainable unless you're using an older engine.
                                /Not really a bug, more of a design flaw. It's still an inconvenience though~
                                Last edited by Mourningfall; 05-27-2015, 09:45 PM.

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