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  • emulord
    FFR Veteran
    • Sep 2006
    • 778

    #646
    Re: FFR Suggestions

    FFR =!= Piano
    Its all about speed here and if you cant PA, you should be able to keep up with the song.
    If you mash, you admit you can't PA that part of the song.
    Plus, mashing is fun

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    • Plan_Bsk81127
      snooches
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2007
      • 6420

      #647
      Re: FFR Suggestions

      Mashing is taking advantage of a shitty game just to get you a good rank and make you look good when you really arent.

      Dont see why people even bother playing if they are just going to mash, completely takes out the purpose of playing the game in the first place.

      Then again its FFR, game full of failures who have to mash to make them feel good.

      Just to add to the whole "mashing to a certain section of a song to maintain combo", you can do this but it surely doesnt result in 100-200+ boo scores on most songs outside of like DP and RATO. If you exceed that limit you are basically mashing the whole song just to get the better rank.
      Last edited by Plan_Bsk81127; 04-5-2011, 01:51 PM.

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      • YoshL
        Celestial Harbor
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Aug 2008
        • 6156

        #648
        Re: FFR Suggestions

        Originally posted by Plan_Bsk81127
        Mashing is taking advantage of a shitty game just to get you a good rank and make you look good when you really arent.

        Dont see why people even bother playing if they are just going to mash, completely takes out the purpose of playing the game in the first place.

        Then again its FFR, game full of failures who have to mash to make them feel good.
        I find your statement very offensive. You do realize that FFR isn't just a place for pros to hang out and play all the hard songs, and get non-mashed scores. some people find mashing enjoyable, and seriously, let them mash. Remember. It's a GAME. the scoring system can change to prevent mashing from being a high score obtainer (i'm all for it), but saying that FFR is "full of failures who have to mash to make them feel good" is really going too far.


        Originally posted by Charu
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        • Plan_Bsk81127
          snooches
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2007
          • 6420

          #649
          Re: FFR Suggestions

          lol, like I care that you are offended. How does anyone find this game fun if you arent going to even play it properly.....

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          • YoshL
            Celestial Harbor
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Aug 2008
            • 6156

            #650
            Re: FFR Suggestions

            Originally posted by Plan_Bsk81127
            lol, like I care that you are offended. How does anyone find this game fun if you arent going to even play it properly.....
            i think you're failing to realize that:

            some people aren't that good at ffr.


            Originally posted by Charu
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            • Plan_Bsk81127
              snooches
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2007
              • 6420

              #651
              Re: FFR Suggestions

              More like people are too impatient to get good so they just dont bother trying and just mash through it.

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              • YoshL
                Celestial Harbor
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Aug 2008
                • 6156

                #652
                Re: FFR Suggestions

                Originally posted by Plan_Bsk81127
                More like people are too impatient to get good so they just dont bother trying and just mash through it.
                lol, not much point arguing, when you aren't trying to view the whole picture.


                Originally posted by Charu
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                • Xx{Midnight}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8548

                  #653
                  Re: FFR Suggestions

                  Return the mute button.

                  Please oh god please.

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                  • iironiic
                    D6 FFR Legacy Player
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 4342

                    #654
                    Re: FFR Suggestions

                    The game lost it's fun factor with too much competition. Wish this could be remedied with a suggestion.

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                    • foxfire667
                      The FFRchiver
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2169

                      #655
                      Re: FFR Suggestions

                      Originally posted by rushyrulz
                      idr who suggested it, but they proposed that all the FC/AAA scores would stay the same if
                      perfect: 1550
                      good: 1275
                      avg: 1055
                      boo: -20
                      miss: -310
                      combo: 0
                      I would really enjoy seeing combo based scoring to finally be removed, and to be replaced with PA based scoring. I understand why people might mash songs (as they have no idea how to read patterns of a certain speed due to their skill level) but as you go on in the game you find that if you get a miss, your score is worthless at that point, and gets killed in the ranks. I mean as a good example, RATO and DP, I usually can get alright pa's on those songs with a few misses, OR I can lazily mash an fc and pull a rank in the 20's-30's no problem. A lot of the time it comes down to why work on figuring out something, when you can just mash the hell out of it and get a much better rank?

                      Plus it would get people striving to do as good on a song as possible, compared to getting the highest combo possible. This would also give Multiplayer a little more leveling out, so that people can't mash fgo's like crazy and take away other people's level because of a miss or two. I see it all the time, people literally getting hundreds of goods more than the other person, but through the miracle of Mash Mash Revolution, they win the match...by a LOT of points.
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                      • Zageron
                        Zageron E. Tazaterra
                        FFR Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6592

                        #656
                        Re: FFR Suggestions

                        Game is fun regardless of what score you get, or how much you mash.

                        The point of the game is to play through, listen to the kick ass music, and hit as many arrows as you can.

                        I would like to see combo mean less, just as a "I got X combo yay" but really I cbf to care.

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                        • Ninty64
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 738

                          #657
                          Re: FFR Suggestions

                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          tldr; Where's the "skill" in missing?
                          I have no clue where you get the idea that the opposite of mashing is missing. That's completely untrue. The opposite of mashing is trying to do the pattern as it was intended. Missing is oftentimes a consequence of that.

                          Furthermore, I'd never say that mashing is "understanding that you can't do X part and trying to compensate." I'd equate it with something like "not believing you can do X part so giving up without even trying." If you want to do that, fine; however, I don't believe you should be rewarded for it.

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                          • MCSm0ke
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 28

                            #658
                            Re: FFR Suggestions

                            Difficulty variety. There's good songs in there but for some even mashing is too slow.
                            2.3 Rounded = 2
                            2.4 Rounded = 2
                            2.3 + 2.4 = 4.7
                            4.7 Rounded = 5.
                            2 + 2 = 5

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                            • ~Zeta~
                              Flag Master
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2156

                              #659
                              Re: FFR Suggestions

                              Originally posted by emulord
                              FFR =!= Piano
                              Its all about speed here and if you cant PA, you should be able to keep up with the song.
                              If you mash, you admit you can't PA that part of the song.
                              Plus, mashing is fun
                              The piano reference is an analogy, durr.

                              If I have to explain it....

                              How it sounds is the PA.
                              Mashing the piano = mashing the keyboard and bad PA.
                              Playing it better but not hitting every note in the song = Playing it better but not hitting every note in the song.

                              Think about it.

                              If you don't have the speed, practice. Mashing definitely doesn't help rofl.
                              Btw,


                              Originally posted by emulord
                              If you mash, you admit you can't PA that part of the song.
                              No dip. Yet you should be rewarded with a better rank? Bullshit.



                              Originally posted by emulord
                              Plus, mashing is fun
                              Opinionated.

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                              • bmah
                                shots FIRED
                                Profile Moderator
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                Global Moderator
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 8448

                                #660
                                Re: FFR Suggestions

                                I think what emulord was referring to when saying "FFR =/= piano" had nothing to do with a literal comparison, but rather a comparison on style. He's saying that FFR isn't necessarily a game you play elegantly (or even so far as to say "correctly") in order to get the most out of it, unlike a piano. It's more or less a casual view that reflects the fact that you don't need to do everything "technically correct" in order to enjoy the game. However, you're arguing the opposite, stating that by not calibrating the game to judge correct playing, you get less enjoyment out of it. What opinion you take is partially based on how much you care about skill, scores, and your own playing. If you care more about scores for instance, clearly you'd want the game to judge your scoring on a more precise basis.

                                Hope that's a clearer explanation.
                                Last edited by bmah; 04-5-2011, 04:52 PM.

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