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  • awein999
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    • Oct 2007
    • 4647

    #181
    Re: 6 Key FFR

    I've done some thinking.

    here is my attempt to explain logically why 6 key is an improvment to ffr and simulataneously not getting ffr any closer to sm:

    -ffr's timing windows are still the same. That is much different from stepmania. If somehow ffr changed it's timing windows to exactly stepmania quality than I would agree that is getting closer to sm, but we aren't doing that obviously.

    -Adding 6 key to ffr and claiming it's getting closer to sm is like saying "because ffr has a 4 key mode like sm, it's too much like sm," or "because ffr has arrows, it's too much like sm." Or even "ffr has music, that's too much like sm."

    This concept would only expand ffr's popularity as it is an additional game mode that ffr players can experience.
    Originally posted by Staiain
    i am super purple hippo

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    • stargroup
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 974

      #182
      Re: 6 Key FFR

      Originally posted by awein999
      I've done some thinking.
      thank you for your thinking, but we've already addressed these points haha
      (´・ω・`)

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      • awein999
        (ಠ⌣ಠ)
        • Oct 2007
        • 4647

        #183
        Re: 6 Key FFR

        Originally posted by Staiain
        i am super purple hippo

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        • qqwref
          stepmania archaeologist
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 4092

          #184
          Re: 6 Key FFR

          Originally posted by stargroup
          don't forget that you have to download stepmania but ffr is freely accessible on the internet anywhere
          That's a pretty good point, actually. I definitely can't play SM anywhere I go (even if the computer has it I'd still have to set it up with Orbular and my Cmod to get decent scores, whereas FFR will always have the same black background and x1.75 and songs that I'm used to), and even on this computer Stepmania takes me several minutes to load because of how many songs I have. FFR's definitely more accessible, which is a big plus.
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          • Sprite-
            HAVE ME WITH VODKA
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 7316

            #185
            Re: 6 Key FFR

            Then there's the point where you have to be online to play FFR (legally).

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            • d4u7211
              Aficionado of Awk
              • Oct 2006
              • 1276

              #186
              Re: 6 Key FFR

              never even thought about trying, just as you said, but...

              +1 support, sounds like a good challenge
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              • Oni-Paranoia
                No fucks
                • Dec 2006
                • 2440

                #187
                Re: 6 Key FFR

                Originally posted by stargroup
                A: still don't understand what you're trying to say
                B: ---
                C: it's not "more difficult," it's a completely different style of play. easy 6 key files will still be easier than fgo 4 key files. this argument is totally stupid
                D: I play ffr from time to time, but why play it when you can just do it on sm?
                E: it's 'SINGLES' and I still don't get why bring 'SINGLES' to ffr when it can just be left to SM

                this can be developed in parallel to 4 key's other features

                1. still the only semi-valid argument you have
                2. and do any of these have the same style of 6 key play that ffr will offer? I don't think so
                3. oh it's needed and wanted alright, you just don't see it

                btw some people can't even get sm to work on their computers. I'm not kidding

                P.S. that's why we have easy files and hard files, for newbies that just want familiarity and veterans who can actually appreciate the game

                still only one semi-valid argument, but whatever, lack of support from one person ain't gonna hurt us. at least you're not against us
                A:--
                B:--
                C: I'll leave it at that, but the more keys the longer it takes to adjust to it. That's more or less my point if someone new was on the site.
                D: Competition in a better community.. (ODI is lol (SM))
                E: But it wasn't and it took a lot of work to get it as it is now, this goes back to point '1.' in my last post.

                1.--
                2. No but do many people understand that? To anybody 'new' 5-6-7 key or all the same, just the more keys seems more harder. Also explain what more Solo 6 key has to offer than any other 4+ key game.
                3. I bet...

                I bet 99% of the reasons why SM wouldn't work on someones computer is because they did something wrong to there SM or there computer and 95% of the time it's a fixable problem.

                P.s. Understood, but I'm trying to look from a newbies point of view instead of just my own.

                Though you might only see one good claim, look at in all ways rather than just having something 'new' to FFR. WE might see a dead end but new players are at the beginning (totally went back to a earlier point >.>)

                Originally posted by qqwref
                That's a pretty good point, actually. I definitely can't play SM anywhere I go (even if the computer has it I'd still have to set it up with Orbular and my Cmod to get decent scores, whereas FFR will always have the same black background and x1.75 and songs that I'm used to), and even on this computer Stepmania takes me several minutes to load because of how many songs I have. FFR's definitely more accessible, which is a big plus.
                1. If you can play FFR (arrows) then why need to change to Orbular on SM??
                2. Adding a Cmod takes less than a minute..
                3. Play on your on computer that already has Orbular and your Cmods
                4. Options\Background options and change the BG brightness to 0 and you'll always have a black background.
                5. Your Cmod doesn't change unless you change it and play songs that you enjoy.
                6. Unless you play SMO a lot then remove ALL your packs and just take the songs you play out of them and place them into 1 folder, that way your not loading 93849834 songs when you only play 20 of them
                7. All the reasons you stated can be countered (1-6) with better possibilities therefore the difference of accessibility is the same (for me at least)

                or

                Use a flashdrive with SM so if you transfer from comp to comp you'll have your sh*t?

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                • stargroup100
                  behanjc & me are <3'ers
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2051

                  #188
                  Re: 6 Key FFR

                  some people can START on 6 key, ever think of that?

                  also fine, let's just SUPPOSE that newbies won't like this. veterans need this then. and based on your posts, veterans are pretty important. I don't think newbies would care too much about new updates on the game, such as noteskins
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                  • Oni-Paranoia
                    No fucks
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 2440

                    #189
                    Re: 6 Key FFR

                    Originally posted by stargroup100
                    some people can START on 6 key, ever think of that?

                    also fine, let's just SUPPOSE that newbies won't like this. veterans need this then. and based on your posts, veterans are pretty important. I don't think newbies would care too much about new updates on the game, such as noteskins
                    Need? no
                    Want? yes

                    Even so, it's probably a lot easier to do something like noteskins than an entire other concept. It would also probably benefit more than having Solo..

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                    • stargroup100
                      behanjc & me are <3'ers
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2051

                      #190
                      Re: 6 Key FFR

                      noteskins more benefit only if we get notebar or orbular like skins
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                      Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

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                      • Xiaounlimited
                        Eaguru
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2832

                        #191
                        Re: 6 Key FFR

                        PIU Pro's Xuxa and Smiley skins are cool, everybody benefits from those
                        Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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                        • xThai
                          slurprprprprpr ~
                          • May 2008
                          • 848

                          #192
                          Re: 6 Key FFR

                          I'd play FFR a lot more often if they added 6 keys.
                          I support this.
                          +1

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                          • Megamanmaniac
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1248

                            #193
                            Re: 6 Key FFR

                            I support this BIG time! +1
                            My main account is Elite Ninja now. I did not achieve all these skill tokens. This account is only to play them.

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                            • stargroup
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 974

                              #194
                              Re: 6 Key FFR

                              Hey, guess what bLasTamos just did?

                              Prototype: http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1249784073
                              (´・ω・`)

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                              • qqwref
                                stepmania archaeologist
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 4092

                                #195
                                Re: 6 Key FFR

                                Originally posted by stargroup
                                Hey, guess what bLasTamos just did?

                                Prototype: http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1249784073
                                That's really cool. Looks just like real FFR :P

                                Too bad I can't read solo at all. Passed the song though.
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