Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

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  • robertsona
    missa in h-moll
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2006
    • 3997

    #16
    Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

    Originally posted by dore
    this wont be abused at all ever
    kinda agreed...

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    • Tasselfoot
      Retired BOSS
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2003
      • 25185

      #17
      Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

      any rating system will be abused. obviously. but generally speaking, things should be abused fairly equally, meaning that all the abuse cancels itself out... what it likely does is artificially skew everything inward.

      *shrugs*

      there are enough positives on this for it to be worthwhile to do.
      RIP

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      • robertsona
        missa in h-moll
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2006
        • 3997

        #18
        Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

        definitely amazing idea though. Thumbs up.
        Bicycle break willbe killed with this though lol.

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        • stargroup100
          behanjc & me are <3'ers
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Jul 2006
          • 2051

          #19
          Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

          oh thx I love you too

          and please, it's features like this that drop FFR lower and lower. it only promotes bad songs and bad steps. no more, please.
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          • jimerax
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Nov 2003
            • 8185

            #20
            Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

            abuses like making new accounts and multiple voting would happen.

            ingame rating system would be nice, but just adding the voting section on this site is ok.

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            • robertsona
              missa in h-moll
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2006
              • 3997

              #21
              Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

              Now it's "hip" to hate bicycle break lol.

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              • GasesAreFluids
                Banned
                • Sep 2007
                • 67

                #22
                Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                law of large numbers guys

                Over time the ratings would still converge to something reasonably accurate, even if people try to abuse the system. The effect of abuse would have little effect unless it is done really early on and raters take that skewing into their own consideration.

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                • Tasselfoot
                  Retired BOSS
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 25185

                  #23
                  Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                  exactly rubix. plus you'll have abusers on both sides... people who rate things 0 for no reason, and others who rate things 5 for no reason.

                  in the end, assuming abuse is 1-sided to a negative rating, it still will be fairly uniform... which means that you're basically making it a smaller range, perhaps 0-3, instead of 0-5. so it'll skew the ratings all closer to each other, but there will be enough legit ratings that it shouldn't matter in the long run.

                  math and logic are our friends.
                  RIP

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                  • Danman123
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 190

                    #24
                    Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                    You should also be able to change your vote on a song/step, of course, without voting again. After getting better at FFR, you may realize that the stepfile isn't as bad as you previously thought it was.

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                    • IAAW
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 3008

                      #25
                      Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                      Originally posted by Danman123
                      You should also be able to change your vote on a song/step, of course, without voting again. After getting better at FFR, you may realize that the stepfile isn't as bad as you previously thought it was.
                      I'm not sure that would be too acceptable. However, I think that the addition of it would be 50/50.

                      By the way, I just noticed this thread. I think this is a very nice idea; like most other people have said, the possibilites for song/stepfile ranking is endless. It might be good that, if the rating is going to be 0/5, consider display the rating in stars, or anything of the sort.

                      Anyway, I shall support this 1000%.

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                      • Tasselfoot
                        Retired BOSS
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 25185

                        #26
                        Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                        i feel like stargroup is our token old angry guy who sits in a wheelchair in the corner, bitching at everything, being ignored by everyone.
                        RIP

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                        • jimerax
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 8185

                          #27
                          Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                          Difficulty will be an important factor of rating.

                          There will be newbs like "omg I can't pass this song, it's retarded. rating 0/5", or veterans like "This file is understepped and boring, rating 1/5".

                          and yea rating should be changeable.

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                          • Solomine Gray
                            Forum User
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 529

                            #28
                            Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                            Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                            i feel like stargroup is our token old angry guy who sits in a wheelchair in the corner, bitching at everything, being ignored by everyone.
                            Who?

                            And, I love this idea. Something about voicing your opinion and having it actually "heard" sits well with me.

                            EDIT: I also think it would be interesting to have another one of those "Show" boxes on people's profiles that allows you to see ratings they've given to songs. Just a thought.
                            Last edited by Solomine Gray; 12-6-2007, 05:31 AM.

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                            • behanjc
                              stargroup & me are <3'ers
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1546

                              #29
                              Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                              Make it so the rating thing is at the results screen and you have to pass it to rate. It will decrease pointless spamming from users and decrease the amount of people who rate ZOMG TOO HARD 0/5!

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                              • IAAW
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 3008

                                #30
                                Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps

                                Originally posted by behanjc
                                Make it so the rating thing is at the results screen and you have to pass it to rate. It will decrease pointless spamming from users and decrease the amount of people who rate ZOMG TOO HARD 0/5!
                                I like that. That needs to be added to the song rating requirements.

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