Enough with the secret songs.

[User6773]

We haven't had a new song in a long time that hasn't been a secret song. Frankly, I think secret songs are contrary to the fun of FFR, because they a) discourage big-wager challenges and b) discourage song purchases.

Let's go over these 2 points in detail.

It's now at the point where you have to have 450+ credits stockpiled to play every song on FFR. This means that for me, I will never issue challenges that could send me below this mark, as I want to keep every song I have. I can't go out on a limb and throw away 300 credits on a game of Secret Zombie Room, because I don't want to lose a bunch of songs. Thus, the secret songs create a definite "safety zone" that many players will not want to leave.

As for purchases: this also means that I won't buy songs until I have enough to buy the new song and not lose the 6-8 songs I already have. I waited until I had about 1300 credits to buy AIM Anthem (a 1000 credit song.) Losing all my secret songs was not worth the purchase of one new song. Also, unless most of the new songs are purchased songs, then what's the point of the credits?

So I suggest converting all existing secret songs into 250-credit purchases and eliminating the Secret genre. This will actually cause people to value their credits more, while (surprisingly) at the same time encouraging people to gamble their credits! I'm sick of having to have a large hoard of credits on hand so I can play secret songs.

[plasmix]

Get rid of the Secret section? WTF?!

It is a rule of life: Be wary of your expenses.

If you lose your credits, it is your own fault.

[Brainmaster07]

Get rid of the secret section? no way! alter it? yes.

There's a ton of things that could fix the first point, and to an extent the second. Just simply change unlocking them to something other then credits, like games played, total points, amount of songs bought from the store, certain amount of top 20 scores, etc. Or, you could just make it so they don't leave when you spend your credits, but that would probably take to much server space saving everytime...

But there is one thing that's really bothering, and it pretty much is the point of the thread. What's with all the songs going into the secret section? Ok, great, new songs, but why there? You realeased the shop what? 2 months ago? There have only been 3 songs released in it.... hellooo, did you forget about it or something (Don't mean to sound rude, but still). The shop is a great idea, use it.

[peregrine]

I agree with plasmix... besides the morals-for-life aspect of it, reorganization and/or a new system would take time and effort. If people are really that concerned about their secret songs, they can play 4FT3R M3 10 times or so and build up that safety zone on their own.

EDIT: as for brainmaster's idea... to have little switches to indicate whether or not a player has unlocked a certian song would require extra memory... and I'm not sure about CPU time.

[GregHead]

Why not just move the Secret Songs to the Purchased Section.... and then make you...... purchase.... them.

(note that most purchased songs are in the shop because they're long. Therefore, these secret songs should be much cheaper.)

[Synthlight]

I was working on populating the Secret section. Just wanted to get it out of the way, you won't see any new songs in there for awhile. As for the credits issue, thats part of the fun. Are you good enough to keep your songs and your credits when you challenge people? It adds a twist to the game.

There is much more in the works for everyone.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[Privateer]

Eh, even though the genres could use some organizing/work/sprucing/combining, they are fine.

[lightdarkness]

i think there should be higher gaps in the secret section
40 credits per song? thats 3 games for me

[alainbryden]

I agree. Don't change the secret section now, but all future new songs should go to the shop.