New Way of Doing FFR Rank

[XBmaster]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

That's an interesting idea and I think it should be considered, but then people wouldn't bother to play the songs with less notes because it would be impossible for it to count anyway. If we did do something like this, I think the best way to do it would be to have a high percentage like between 95% and 100%.

At 95% it would take around 16 songs before a 0 got added to your score, but other people's scores on the new songs could be higher than your lower scores, so you would fall very slowly at first if at all, then fall quickly the longer you were away.

This seems like a good number without being too high or too low to get rid of 'inactive' users while still allowing people that are busy to maintain their rank.

What do you guys think?

[Conorn]

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I actually think that is a good idea, because It ranks the people out of their best, and to get their rank up, they have to do better, which is actually the real way of a rank system, for example, in the US Army, in order for you to achieve a higher rank, you have to be active, work a lot, and contribute to the force. I reconsider my request of it not being a good idea, I want this happening!!

[hullmo717]

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I think that these are good ideas but I'm not convinced that they are really necessary. We currently have the tier system which is an accurate way of ranking the top players. And I don't really think that people need anything beyond levelrank and overall rank for the people that are only in the middle.

[Tasselfoot]

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1. there are currently 45 people with an average rank under 100. shash, baha, and danceguy are NOT among them.

2. expect a few new snazzy statistics pages added along with the start of token month. already coded and ready to go... just being held to start july off with a bang.

[XBmaster]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

When you say that the Tier system is enough I disagree, because where am I in that system. I'm tied with almost everyone at 0 tier points. I do agree it's a good system for the top players, but I'd like to know where I stand in the game skill-wise. We all know overall rank doesn't show this, and level rank tells me that I'm around 3200, but that doesn't tell me much either.

With this new system, every rank up would feel like an accomplishment rather than just a feeling of having played more than the person I just passed.

EDIT: I'm excited about these new statistic pages, and I hope one of them is similar to what we're talking about here. What I really hope is that the stats pages include everyone rather than just the top players like several of the pages do around here (FFR Rank, Song Ranks, Tier system, etc.).

[Tasselfoot]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

there is no way that we're having a stat page to include 1.2 million usernames. that just isn't happening.

at most, top1000. stats pages serve 2 purposes. 1. for those on them, a reference point, and things of that nature. 2. for everyone, they serve as a goal. something to strive for. for those not on the list, the goal is to get onto the list. for those on the list, it is to move up the list. for the person at the top, it is to stay at the top.

[lightdarkness]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

stats

[CrashJet555]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

I know some people like the FFR Rank and others don't but here's what I think.

Right now the FFR Rank basically signifies who plays (or has played) the most and I think that it should be based on who plays the best. The best way to do this in my opinion would be to add up each player's best score on each song into one big total. I've put a decent amount of thought into this and these would be some good things about it.

- All types of skill would be tested because all songs go into the new rank
- Most Harder songs have more possible notes, and because of this are worth more points, so better players will be ranked higher
- It shouldn't require much code to implement because all the numbers are already there, and just have to be added together
- New songs coming out would make inactive players fall down the ranks and would keep the ranks exciting for all players

By no means do I want to remove the current FFR Rank, but I think that it should take a backseat to this rank.

I would love to hear what you guys might think of this and I would also like to hear your criticisms and suggestions, so we can make this something that the FFR Community can support and be proud of.

Thanks for reading

Noah

EDIT

this makes the fifth thread i've seen someone make that has discussed this, and i'm sure there have been many more. I can tell you what everyone else who says this was told- this will not happen, the ranking system right now is just fine and I could give you the reasons that any other thing wouldn't work

[Nightfirecat]

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stats

lol.. very simple response I like it

[XBmaster]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

I realize having over a million users on one stat page is too much, and that it will never happen. The main reason I like to see everyone is so I can see how far I am from the people in front of me, to see how much more I need to move up.

It would probably be more reasonable to show the 2 or 3 people above and below you in your FFR profile, that way you can have this information without having a ginormous stat page.

I could give you the reasons that any other thing wouldn't work

Would you mind giving those reasons because at the moment I don't see how it wouldn't work. I'm not challenging you to come up with reasons, I'm just tired of hearing it won't work without a specific reason.

[Doug31]

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Now, definitely no more than top 1000, anything below that, and the people above and below you would be so close that you could pass like 50 in one song.

[XBmaster]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

Now, definitely no more than top 1000, anything below that, and the people above and below you would be so close that you could pass like 50 in one song.

It would be like this in the very low ranks like when you just start and maybe up till around 5,000 or so, but after that there will be times when you play a song and don't pass anybody. I just don't think you should have to be a top player in order to compete on the leaderboards.

[Adamaja456]

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I don't see the problem in Tier points if you concerned about skill

[jimerax]

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one of the good ideas I've thought of, but I'll be like #1 by doing this sry (or darkshark).

[Doug31]

Re: New Way of Doing FFR Rank

Tier points are incredibly inaccurate. They're based on how many songs you're good at, not how good you are at your best songs, and are therefore still highly affected by how much you whore stuff to try to get more.