Rework FFR scoring to be based on perfects and not combo

[Arch0wl]

Alot of times, on harder songs, the better scores have really crappy pa, and people can boowhore their way to the top. If it was based on perfects, misses would take off about 2 combos worth in score, and boos would take off 3. Combo is a really irrelevant part of the game, it only matters on FFR because it's been made to matter like that.

Synth, if you read this, we can continue this on AIM.

[makaveli121212]

no doubt this should be should be done, i agree 100%

[User6773]

I agree. To prove a point: In DDR 1st mix, the scoring system was similar to FFR's (meaning combos were king, and if you missed a single beat your whole score was screwed.) They eventually changed this because people were sick of getting blown out of the water for making one stupid mistake.

edit: having come up with the concept for boos, I love how the word "boowhore" has worked its way into FFR vocabulary, apparantely

[Reach]

yep. this is the next major step. the combo system sucks. Miss in the wrong spot and you're screwed een though you could be doing awesome.

Marvelous timing would be nice too, and maybe worth a bit more than a perfect.

[HN006_Blazeman]

The current system is like this:

Perfect * 500
Good * 250
Average * 50
Combo * 1000
Miss * -300

I think a good reworking of the score system would be like this:

Perfect * 1000 (x2)
Good * 500 (x2)
Average * 100 (x2)
Combo * 500 (1/2)
Miss * -750 (x2.5)

So if you get EVERY arrow perfect, you get the same score in both systems, and there is more emphisis on precision than combo-scoring, in case you don't.

[3rr0r]

AHHH mixed feeling this would kill my score for some songs and really improve it for others.
Combine the 2 maybe keeping combos big but adding your previous combos so that if u get 128 combo then a miss then a 123 combo u get 251*.75 points.
also if u made misses that much you could get a good perfect combo going then miss a whole bunch and end up with a negitive score.
please rework this before putting anything major changing into ffr and also poll a huge number of ppl on revamped sytem that you took a month to figure out of course.

[Nima]

how about stepmania scoring = good idea

[User6773]

I like that FFR has its own scoring style. I think it should retain its own scoring style. However, they need to fix things. Why is it that 250 perfects, then a miss, then 250 perfects again, is far fewer points than 500 averages? It just doesn't make sense.

[Reach]

i say scrap the current system..as in 'the combo system' where your score is dependant on combo.

I say add MARVELOUS timing...and

make the scores like this

Marvelous * 6000
Perfect * 5000
Good * 2500
Average * 500
Miss * -5000(possibly more...i dunno?)
Boo * -2500

no bonus

Seems like a good scoring system to me. Sure, Maybe change it around a little bit....but something like that makes more sense to me. Misses will do quite a bit of damage to score...boo whoring will hurt your score badly and it will be very dependant on how many perfs/mars you get.

[Moogy]

I like Reach's idea.

[Brainmaster07]

Yes, but I think there should be some sort of bonus for combos. It shouldn't be dependant on it, as a multiplier, but maybe just a little add on. Going along with reach's idea maybe - combo*100. Not much, but I don't think combos should become worthless.

[plasmix]

They basically are in SM.

[Cenright]

Problem 1 is that boos are not very costly. If they actually costed people a lot, they would still be able to beat a level, but they wouldn't get to the top.

Problem 2 is the combo thing. Even if Marvelous's were not instituted, I think HN006 Blazeman had a good idea. You don't make massive changes in scoring, you just change how the variables are multiplied.

Another thing... Marvelous should not be better than a perfect. That is where SM is stupid. Perfect is just that. PERFECT. If you were going to add another, you would need to make it:

Perfect
(Great)
Good
Average
(Poor)
Miss
Boo

You could add either of the ones in parentheses. Just keep Perfect on top.

If you didn't, Perfecting a song would not be the best thing. Come on. Are we saying there is something better than perfection?
Marvelousion? (that just sounds stupid)

[Brainmaster07]

I always wondered how marvelous could be better then perfect .

[Cenright]

SM obviously is in need of a vocabulary improvement.