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  • Reach
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2003
    • 7471

    #1

    multiplayer rank ideas

    ok right now i really dislike the rank system. i don't know what you guys have planned for it, but right now its pointless

    its turning into the same thing as the FFR rank, who plays the most. why? because most of the high ranked people chicken out of matches against other high ranked people, leave the game, get cold feet, ect.

    i got this idea from tassel earlier, when he refused to play me. what exactly does rank mean if you're not going to play other high ranked people? nothing, really. it means just about as much as FFR rank does


    so, if this would be possible, why not make a seperate lobby for ranked multiplayer games. also, make multiplayer games RANDOM, against someone with a similar rank to yours, say between 5-7 higher or lower. this way 1. eventually you will be forced to play better players 2. nobody will be able to chicken out of games ex. i know ap can beat me at such and such song, but i would have to play it anyway 3. this would make ranks a better representation of skill, we dont need another how many games have you played ranking system. also, the random song choosing could get rid of extremely easy songs out of the choosing as the ranks of the players chosen to play increases. we wouldn't need two of the highest ranked players facing off on trip to the moon.

    i just find myself right now, not enjoying multiplayer, because noone will play me. All I get in the ffr games are, oh, I can't beat you, so I won't play you (well, probably 75% of the time anyway).


    ps: its nothing against the idea, much thanks to the staff and everyone thats put effort into getting these things together. I just think it could be greatly improved.
  • DJRiDDeR
    God
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2003
    • 2215

    #2
    RE: multiplayer rank ideas

    Yeah, I agree with you....I don't like the ranking system either for MP.

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    • Reach
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2003
      • 7471

      #3
      RE: multiplayer rank ideas

      if anything, just another lobby for multiplayer games only would be nicer. as of now, everyones being chicken shi t about everything. At least if someone wants to go in and enjoy some casual games they could do so.

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      • DJRiDDeR
        God
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2003
        • 2215

        #4
        RE: multiplayer rank ideas

        Like a Beginner's room, Intermediate, Advanced........Seperate all the newbs XD.

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        • lightdarkness
          Summer!!
          • Jul 2003
          • 11308

          #5
          RE: multiplayer rank ideas

          What you've layed out is exactly what is planned. The current rankings are there for testing to make sure the system works.

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          • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
            Threat Emulation
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2004
            • 5184

            #6
            Re: multiplayer rank ideas

            i like what is Reach's idea, and it seems like that is what is going to happen. but can there be a room/way to just play the game not for a score. like just to play to play with someone. And not no score like you get no points, just like as if there was no multiplayer ranking just so you could see who did better. That way, some of these
            Originally posted by Reach
            All I get in the ffr games are, oh, I can't beat you, so I won't play you.
            won't happen. Its not like I backdown, cuz seeing people doing better than me(in these cases a lot better) just makes me want to get better. But it is still a little nerveracking to play with someone like aperson or Reach just because you know how good they are.

            Originally posted by Lightdarkness
            I'm light f**king darkness

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            • QUOLL
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2003
              • 30

              #7
              Re: multiplayer rank ideas

              I like this idea too.

              Originally posted by Reach
              2. nobody will be able to chicken out of games
              Those chicken people would run away by shutting down the browser, or even the PC. So giving them a large penalty is good.
              ex) getting their level down by 1-2 compulsorily.

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              • Synthlight
                Administrator
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Administrator
                • Nov 2002
                • 3059

                #8
                RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                Lots of things in the work here.. Basically what I am looking at is having a public mp level and an official mp level. The public one is basically what is up right now. The official one will be a seperate level rating and will only include games played on the matchmaking system.

                Right now this is what I am thinking...

                You have a choice to join:
                Public Lobby
                Matchmaking Lobby

                if Matchmaking Lobby is chosen:
                You enter a holding pen
                the system finds a player with similiar level (maybe +/- 2 levels)
                the system auto-joins you into a private room with the player
                the system randomly pics a song that is related to your skill level
                game automatically starts
                stats are recorded
                if a player drops out at any point, they are penalized

                WIP

                Cheers,

                Synthlight

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                • Synthlight
                  Administrator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 3059

                  #9
                  RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                  Reach,

                  I also wanted to mention that the mp level is not currently based on how many times you have played someone but has to do with who you play with and how often you win. Notice that DDRERER has played like 2x the amount of mp games as you, yet he is ranked lower.

                  Cheers,

                  Synthlight

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                  • Reach
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 7471

                    #10
                    RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                    Thanks synth, and great ideas. I see you're already ahead of the game, but I just wanted to check in

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                    • clessy
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 57

                      #11
                      Re: RE: multiplayer rank ideas

                      Originally posted by DJRiDDeR
                      Yeah, I agree with you....I don't like the ranking system either for MP.
                      How are you to agree when yesterday I played you and you where loosing and you left right in the middle of the song....

                      I think the cure to this is if someone joys a game they have to play 1 song a bar minium and you can't leave in the middle of a song.

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                      • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                        Threat Emulation
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • May 2004
                        • 5184

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                        Originally posted by Synthlight
                        Lots of things in the work here.. Basically what I am looking at is having a public mp level and an official mp level. The public one is basically what is up right now. The official one will be a seperate level rating and will only include games played on the matchmaking system.

                        Right now this is what I am thinking...

                        You have a choice to join:
                        Public Lobby
                        Matchmaking Lobby

                        if Matchmaking Lobby is chosen:
                        You enter a holding pen
                        the system finds a player with similiar level (maybe +/- 2 levels)
                        the system auto-joins you into a private room with the player
                        the system randomly pics a song that is related to your skill level
                        game automatically starts
                        stats are recorded
                        if a player drops out at any point, they are penalized

                        WIP

                        Cheers,

                        Synthlight
                        I see that you are still one step ahead of us, good. also, does this mean that there will be 2 leaderbaords for the stats then?
                        Also, i would still like to know about having games with no stats recorded.

                        Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                        I'm light f**king darkness

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                        • synthtester
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2005
                          • 12

                          #13
                          RE: Re: RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                          Yes, 2 leaderboards with stats.. and right now I don't believe there will be a no stat option. I will look at that after the other playfields are finished.

                          Cheers,

                          Synthlight

                          *whoops, posted with my multiplayer testing account... owell*

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                          • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                            Threat Emulation
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2004
                            • 5184

                            #14
                            Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                            Originally posted by synthtester
                            Yes, 2 leaderboards with stats.. and right now I don't believe there will be a no stat option. I will look at that after the other playfields are finished.

                            Cheers,

                            Synthlight

                            *whoops, posted with my multiplayer testing account... owell*
                            As long as you look into it then im satisfied because then atleast you will have tried.

                            and lol at synthtester.

                            Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                            I'm light f**king darkness

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                            • leadafro
                              Tykeem Ultimatum
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 975

                              #15
                              RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: multiplayer rank ideas

                              hey Reach id play u its just i never see you in the multiplayer place...(im never scared) besides its just for fun anyway(i lose honorably).i agree with u on the mp ranking thing,but i dont really care much cause i don't play much multiplayer.
                              I'm black yall I'm black yall I'm blickity black black and I'm back.

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