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  • choof
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2013
    • 8563

    #1

    Rates higher than 1.0 should record

    y/n

    yes I'm starting this thread again
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    soleil ardent
    FFR Simfile Author
    • May 2007
    • 6514

    #2
    Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

    yes

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    • SK8R43
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Jan 2008
      • 4683

      #3
      Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

      yes, not like they are getting easier by being on 1.1, 1.5, 2.0, etc lol
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      • BeatMania Rotate Mod
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2014
        • 65

        #4
        Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

        Agree

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        • omega_grunt666
          Nescio quid faciam
          • Jul 2004
          • 894

          #5
          Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

          I would agree, but it gives people on R^3 and advantage because none of the other engines can support rates. Some people can't use it due to compatibility issues.

          No (Even though personally, I would like them to very much)
          Last edited by omega_grunt666; 02-22-2014, 10:19 PM.

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          • SK8R43
            D7 Elite Keymasher
            • Jan 2008
            • 4683

            #6
            Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

            Originally posted by omega_grunt666
            I would agree, but it gives people on R^3 and advantage because none of the other engines can support rates. Some people can't use it because of compatibility issues.

            No (Even though personally, I would like them to very much)
            doesnt really make sense, this only affects people who DO use them. Not like people who cant are missing out on anything, right?
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            • choof
              Banned
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Nov 2013
              • 8563

              #7
              Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

              Originally posted by omega_grunt666
              I would agree, but it gives people on R^3 and advantage because none of the other engines can support rates. Some people can't use it due to compatibility issues.

              No (Even though personally, I would like them to very much)
              it would be an advantage if rates under 1.0 were recorded

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              • omega_grunt666
                Nescio quid faciam
                • Jul 2004
                • 894

                #8
                Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                Grand total farming, pattern cheating, etc.

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                • SK8R43
                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4683

                  #9
                  Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                  Yeah its not really an advantage since in theory it makes the songs harder. I dont ever really use the R3 engine, but if rates recorded i probably would use it for them to practice instead of FFRMANIA. lol
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                  • omega_grunt666
                    Nescio quid faciam
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 894

                    #10
                    Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                    There are situations where something like 3434/1234 could be hit with jump trills perfectly where you would normally have to tap it out. Yes a majority of patterns become much harder, but some can become easier and even though the overall difficulty of the song gets higher, the required skills to perfect the song change. So essentially its an uneven playing field, you're comparing two different difficulty songs for scores.

                    Its not that I don't want them to record, I would love to get credits/GTS while still being able to train speed. But it would be unfair to everyone who doesn't use this engine. It would be nice to have 3 scoreboards, Raw, Combo, Rates after the site change. I think that could make it work.

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                    • choof
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #11
                      Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                      Originally posted by omega_grunt666
                      Grand total farming, pattern cheating, etc.
                      the nice thing about rates is that patterns stay the same

                      as for grand total farming, that's a valid reason but... I don't think grand total has ever mattered to anyone, outside of dendrite v2 and I think vROFL

                      Originally posted by omega_grunt666
                      Yes a majority of patterns become much harder, but some can become easier and even though the overall difficulty of the song gets higher, the required skills to perfect the song change.
                      this would happen to such a small amount of songs that it'd be fairly irrelevant

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                      • SK8R43
                        D7 Elite Keymasher
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4683

                        #12
                        Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                        Yes some become alot easier, BUT also the rest of the patterns in the song will become harder, its not like every pattern will become easier in the song so it makes it an easy aaa. :P

                        I mean rates make the song faster, the patterns become squished, harder to read/hit, so making a few easier is cancelled out by making the rest harder lol
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                        • Untimely Friction
                          D6 Challeneged
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1267

                          #13
                          Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                          No credits no GTS, and then yes I agree

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                          • SK8R43
                            D7 Elite Keymasher
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4683

                            #14
                            Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                            Originally posted by Untimely Friction
                            No credits no GTS, and then yes I agree
                            Sounds fair lets do diss
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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #15
                              Re: Rates higher than 1.0 should record

                              Originally posted by Untimely Friction
                              No credits no GTS, and then yes I agree
                              how about something like this:

                              the credits/score you earn for songs is divided by the rate; anything under 1.0 rate gets no credits and no score

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