The Perfect FFR

[rushyrulz]

Re: The Perfect FFR

I don't think the actual scores would change, it would just be the raw scores that mattered. And Velocity dismissed the idea of raw scoring being implemented to FFR as the main scoring system a few months back.

[Hateandhatred]

Re: The Perfect FFR

An FC should remain an FC no matter what. You shouldn't lose your FC in the FC bar because you derped in the death piano megatrill or at the end of legendary etude and hwad a better pa run.

If this is respected (because its kinda what motives the newcomers), Then Im all ok with raw scoring, even though the fact that combo scoring is there makes something different than SM (Im not sure about it, but I think SM is raw scoring)

Also here are a few minor things.

The ability to change the menu song at will would be really sweet.

When clicking on a song in the song genres, it would be cool to be able to listen to a preview (yep, like sm or ddr).

The ability to turn off backgrounds (if you're not willing to take off Synth songs, at least do this. And if anything, keep the important backgrounds, like party 4 u, marisa or reality hits you hard bro) should already be in game.

Itd be also great to be able to download replays.

Metal. Theres hardly any metal except one or two power metal songs. The rest of the "metal" stuff is more like hardcore subgenre, and there's late Children of Bodom material (please, tell me, why didn't you guys step their earlier stuff??) . Where is all the real thing? Oh and Yeah powerglove. But they apparently belong in the arcade genre.

I once made a list of those, so if I figure more stuff Ill add them to this thread.

[rushyrulz]

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The ability to change the menu song at will would be really sweet.

You can.

[Hateandhatred]

Re: The Perfect FFR

You can.

Roflmao how

Im on legacy engine, by the way.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Re: The Perfect FFR

An FC should remain an FC no matter what. You shouldn't lose your FC in the FC bar because you derped in the death piano megatrill or at the end of legendary etude and hwad a better pa run.

If this is respected (because its kinda what motives the newcomers), Then Im all ok with raw scoring, even though the fact that combo scoring is there makes something different than SM (Im not sure about it, but I think SM is raw scoring)

Also here are a few minor things.

The ability to change the menu song at will would be really sweet.

When clicking on a song in the song genres, it would be cool to be able to listen to a preview (yep, like sm or ddr).

The ability to turn off backgrounds (if you're not willing to take off Synth songs, at least do this. And if anything, keep the important backgrounds, like party 4 u, marisa or reality hits you hard bro) should already be in game.

Itd be also great to be able to download replays.

Metal. Theres hardly any metal except one or two power metal songs. The rest of the "metal" stuff is more like hardcore subgenre, and there's late Children of Bodom material (please, tell me, why didn't you guys step their earlier stuff??) . Where is all the real thing? Oh and Yeah powerglove. But they apparently belong in the arcade genre.

I once made a list of those, so if I figure more stuff Ill add them to this thread.

First two bold points you can do on velocitys engine, think there is a way to download the replay code but dont remember how.

As for the metal comment, its kind of hard to get people to submit these kinda of songs because either people complain that the song is too long and they dont want to have to play it since it took much work to get that score that are in dire need of and sit through a "horrible" song, or people just dont feel like taking the time to sync rock songs and such. I agree there needs to be more but there is not much you can really do about this one except suggest songs to step artists and have them submit it then hope it will make it past the judges. Pretty much any metal song that goes in game tends to not be liked by most people. I would like to see a lot more of like metal songs from like Rise Records and such, idc if people have to spend 4-5 mins to get a AAA, play the game for the music and worry less about your ranks for once. Metal or rock music is rarely seen released anymore just because people bitch about it not being their taste of music and how it kills them to have to play it. Not everything is going to be a song one likes so I dont see why people feel need to have a hissy fit when a screemo song or something is released.

[Hateandhatred]

Re: The Perfect FFR

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Makes sense to me. And just for lulz, how much superior is velo's engine? I don't play with it because it ruins my scores for some reason...

As far as metal, I can understand what you said. But even Then, really Wtf things get released, How can someone want rato or kono spoon on his/her ipod? No hate for the potential lovers of this stuff, but... I dont think thats a majority on here. But as far as the lenght, I agree. I hate the rock genre myself because of that.

[icontrolyourworld]

Re: The Perfect FFR

Probably nothing I list would ever happen in a million years. Also anything I list is not aimed to start a big argument. This is what I feel would make FFR the best it could be and is my opinion alone; if anything happens to offend you I apologize.

-if ffr had beatmania songs, more songs from stepmania (best way i can put it without going into like 50 different artists)

-more difficult songs (like level 12's and non-joke level 13's) and used less jacks and bursts to make a file hard and rather actually put in challenging or fast patterns

-got rid of the rock genre, and made legacy files not count in the AAA/FC bar

-included the option to turn on marvelous timing but still count as a perfect as to not need a new grade (AAAA) but rather to make it easier to go for AAA's for people who come from stepmania

-less technical files, and more fun factor and generic files (when I say less I mean keep them coming they are fun in their own right but generic easy to read fun to play files are the best, files from 2006 are a testament to this statement)

-60fps could be nice

-Freeze arrows and Mines used legitimately fun and not HURRR I PUT IN FREEZES and MINES

-last but most important: good steps to amazing songs.

If all this happened it would be as close to perfect as I would like it to be xD

[Emithith]

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-got rid of the rock genre, and made legacy files not count in the AAA/FC bar

This. I would add it to my list, but I feel like I'm stealing if I do.
Rock genre is a good thing to have to draw people, but then again, I never really thought of FFR as a game to have these songs. It would seem it would just have dance and techno songs. lol

Legacy Files should be transferred to a new engine that would literally be named the Legacy Engine, and the Legacy Engine would be renamed to something else. I understand the nostalgia factor of them, but they are not up to date, and the fact that they are from the past is, imo, not a good enough reason to keep them in-game. They don't meet the standards of today. Submit any of the Legacy Files today and everyone would give you a --. Seriously.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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They don't meet the standards of today.

A bunch of charts in game would get absolutely slaughtered by the "standards of today."

There's a lot more than the legacy genre in game that doesn't meet current standards. (Nova Pulsar, M.A.M.A. ect.)

[TheSaxRunner05]

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+1 for removing legacy songs from the Ave. rank. I wouldn't mind a more Stepmania-like setup, as long as it canned combo based scoring.

[hi19hi19]

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-more difficult songs (like level 12's and non-joke level 13's) and used less jacks and bursts to make a file hard and rather actually put in challenging or fast patterns

I submitted Rave7


300 bpm stream too hard for FFR
p.s. MAMA actually does kinda hold up to modern standards. People like it enough to vote it into the new Tier Point system haha, get owned

[Emithith]

Re: The Perfect FFR

A bunch of charts in game would get absolutely slaughtered by the "standards of today."

There's a lot more than the legacy genre in game that doesn't meet current standards. (Nova Pulsar, M.A.M.A. ect.)

It's odd that for such a professional site that at one point was wanted by Konami, that we would have such unprofessional files still sitting around. It's really not professional at all, and the fact that if you tried submitting those files today and get shot down and -1'd by the submission crew is absolutely scary.
Yes, I know that was back in 2009, you goof.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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People like it enough to vote it into the new Tier Point system haha, get owned

I highly doubt they like the chart for being what it is, rather than the challenge it presents. I even voted I think to put it in because it was difficult, not because the chart was fun or even remotely likable. I'm not going to speak for them and say they all dislike the chart, but I'm not gonna say anything was put there because it's a liked chart either. And if a chart was thrown in because it's just likable, then they should consider removing it.

Yes, I know that was back in 2009, you goof.

I know but the point I was trying to say was that if we put all the legacy charts on a separate engine for that particular reason, we'd have to put a lot of other charts there as well. I'm All for getting them out of public ranks don't get me wrong at all, but to put them on a complete other engine needs a good reason. (Though it's not a bad idea legacy engine for the legacy songs is a clever idea.)

[Emithith]

Re: The Perfect FFR

I know but the point I was trying to say was that if we put all the legacy charts on a separate engine for that particular reason, we'd have to put a lot of other charts there as well. I'm All for getting them out of public ranks don't get me wrong at all, but to put them on a complete other engine needs a good reason. (Though it's not a bad idea legacy engine for the legacy songs is a clever idea.)

lol that quote was more directed at the deal with Konami part.
There are so many songs that need to get chucked it's not even funny.

M.A.M.A. is a fun chart and isn't horribly off sync like some of the older songs. I don't consider it a bad file, and it's actually funny when you first play it and find out it's only 3 fingers.

[nois-or-e]

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Metal. Theres hardly any metal except one or two power metal songs.

Solution: Step some and submit it to the batches ;D