Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

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  • qqwref
    stepmania archaeologist
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2005
    • 4092

    #91
    Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

    Originally posted by rushyrulz
    but ALL the AAAs? that kind of kills the point of leaving songs out of the TP list.
    It's just bonus points. If you have 90% of the AAAs, you'll get 90 of the 100 bonus points (in our system). So yeah, you'll be missing a handful of points by not having EVERYTHING AAA'd, but you're missing points by not having RATO and DP (the hardest songs in the list) AAA'd anyway.
    Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
    Best SDG: PANTS (86)
    Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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    • Velocity
      Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Administrator
      • Jul 2007
      • 1817

      #92
      Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

      If we made tier point based off of raw scoring, it would be fairer, since it uses real skill and not mashing ability. Scoring for ingame, etc will still remain combo-based as it always has. I'm just interested in how yall feel about raw scoring in general.

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      • SkRAWRk
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2011
        • 217

        #93
        Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

        OMG Velocity if you do that, I'll love you forever. <333
        Ohey, a signature. Whut is this. o.o

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        • Frank Munoz
          Muein
          • Nov 2007
          • 2047

          #94
          Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

          Originally posted by Velocity
          If we made tier point based off of raw scoring, it would be fairer, since it uses real skill and not mashing ability. Scoring for ingame, etc will still remain combo-based as it always has. I'm just interested in how yall feel about raw scoring in general.
          Basicly,
          Keep combo scoring for ffr scores.
          Raw scoring for tier points.

          Combo scoring is still a skill; I wouldn't want to get rid of combo scoring completely.
          Unknown and Unofficial
          may the good arrow guide you

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          • xXOpkillerXx
            Forever OP
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2008
            • 4207

            #95
            Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

            Originally posted by Frank Munoz
            Basicly,
            Keep combo scoring for ffr scores.
            Raw scoring for tier points.

            Combo scoring is still a skill; I wouldn't want to get rid of combo scoring completely.
            That would be perfect, seriously.

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            • qqwref
              stepmania archaeologist
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2005
              • 4092

              #96
              Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

              Originally posted by One Winged Angel
              I can guarantee there's probably a few people on here that think Nanairopanda v2 is a more difficult unlock than Scarhand, but it's most likely going to be a TP song
              We were thinking neither should be included. Personally, I feel token songs should only be in the list if everyone who could possibly get points on them would have enough FFR skill to unlock them. Scarhand definitely doesn't qualify for this, and I wouldn't say Nanairo does either.
              Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
              Best SDG: PANTS (86)
              Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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              • i love you
                Live a wonderful life~
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2006
                • 7313

                #97
                Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                Well then it is settled, we will officially make Tier Points be based on raw scoring. Give us a few days to fix/change things around hehe
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                The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~
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                • rushyrulz
                  Digital Dancing!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 12985

                  #98
                  Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                  +1 for raw scoring in MP.


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                  • SkRAWRk
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 217

                    #99
                    Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                    Yeah, what the other guys said since I got 3 posts ninja'd in between me reading part of the thread and my last post. xD

                    Having Tier Points display your ability to PA songs rather than to mash them for combo seems far more skill-based. It also reduces the need for working out scaling up of numbers and such, since it'd just be based off of raw score.
                    Ohey, a signature. Whut is this. o.o

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                    • i love you
                      Live a wonderful life~
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 7313

                      #100
                      Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                      Originally posted by rushyrulz
                      +1 for raw scoring in MP.
                      Will add that in the suggestion section (:

                      I would LOVE to have this done
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                      The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~
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                      • Netjet!
                        Sic itur ad astra
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4701

                        #101
                        Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                        Finally, raw scoring... thank you Jon.
                        RIP Steve Van Ness <3

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                        • BahamutZER0
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 94

                          #102
                          Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                          With the caveat that I don't know how the backend for this works or if Velocity is changing something major, isn't part of the problem that even though you can calculate the raw score only your best combo based score is saved? So if TPs work by looking at your current (combo based) high score rather than being unlocked permanently whenever you meet the requirements at the end of a play, which I'm assuming is the case, it would be possible to lose TPs by beating your old combo based score with a lower raw score, or to miss out on TPs because you may qualify but not beat your old combo based high score.

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                          • Velocity
                            Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Administrator
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1817

                            #103
                            Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                            Originally posted by BahamutZER0
                            With the caveat that I don't know how the backend for this works or if Velocity is changing something major, isn't part of the problem that even though you can calculate the raw score only your best combo based score is saved? So if TPs work by looking at your current (combo based) high score rather than being unlocked permanently whenever you meet the requirements at the end of a play, which I'm assuming is the case, it would be possible to lose TPs by beating your old combo based score with a lower raw score, or to miss out on TPs because you may qualify but not beat your old combo based high score.
                            That's one of the problems this setup currently has, I'm looking into ways to store both the best combo and raw based scoring, but it's not looking easy without modification to long standing code.

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                            • jimerax
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8185

                              #104
                              Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                              gj with levelstats_raw.php.

                              and yeah both best total score and best raw score need to be recorded.

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                              • Oni-Paranoia
                                No fucks
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 2440

                                #105
                                Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                                Rank User Score P G A M B C
                                1 DossarLX ODI 122,445 2445 8 0 0 1 2453
                                2 TC_Halogen 119,925 2360 82 4 7 15 2420
                                3 One Winged Angel 116,630 2267 136 50 0 74 2453
                                4 jimerax 113,710 2179 204 69 1 135 2448
                                5 gnr61 110,515 2114 232 45 62 118 477

                                lol


                                For those who can't read the mess. The red number is the combo for the 5th best score.

                                +1 raw score.

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