Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

[qqwref]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

but ALL the AAAs? that kind of kills the point of leaving songs out of the TP list.

It's just bonus points. If you have 90% of the AAAs, you'll get 90 of the 100 bonus points (in our system). So yeah, you'll be missing a handful of points by not having EVERYTHING AAA'd, but you're missing points by not having RATO and DP (the hardest songs in the list) AAA'd anyway.

[Velocity]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

If we made tier point based off of raw scoring, it would be fairer, since it uses real skill and not mashing ability. Scoring for ingame, etc will still remain combo-based as it always has. I'm just interested in how yall feel about raw scoring in general.

[SkRAWRk]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

OMG Velocity if you do that, I'll love you forever. <333

[Frank Munoz]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

If we made tier point based off of raw scoring, it would be fairer, since it uses real skill and not mashing ability. Scoring for ingame, etc will still remain combo-based as it always has. I'm just interested in how yall feel about raw scoring in general.

Basicly,
Keep combo scoring for ffr scores.
Raw scoring for tier points.

Combo scoring is still a skill; I wouldn't want to get rid of combo scoring completely.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Basicly,
Keep combo scoring for ffr scores.
Raw scoring for tier points.

Combo scoring is still a skill; I wouldn't want to get rid of combo scoring completely.

That would be perfect, seriously.

[qqwref]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

I can guarantee there's probably a few people on here that think Nanairopanda v2 is a more difficult unlock than Scarhand, but it's most likely going to be a TP song

We were thinking neither should be included. Personally, I feel token songs should only be in the list if everyone who could possibly get points on them would have enough FFR skill to unlock them. Scarhand definitely doesn't qualify for this, and I wouldn't say Nanairo does either.

[i love you]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Well then it is settled, we will officially make Tier Points be based on raw scoring. Give us a few days to fix/change things around hehe

[rushyrulz]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

+1 for raw scoring in MP.

[SkRAWRk]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Yeah, what the other guys said since I got 3 posts ninja'd in between me reading part of the thread and my last post. xD

Having Tier Points display your ability to PA songs rather than to mash them for combo seems far more skill-based. It also reduces the need for working out scaling up of numbers and such, since it'd just be based off of raw score.

[i love you]

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+1 for raw scoring in MP.

Will add that in the suggestion section (:

I would LOVE to have this done

[Netjet!]

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Finally, raw scoring... thank you Jon.

[BahamutZER0]

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With the caveat that I don't know how the backend for this works or if Velocity is changing something major, isn't part of the problem that even though you can calculate the raw score only your best combo based score is saved? So if TPs work by looking at your current (combo based) high score rather than being unlocked permanently whenever you meet the requirements at the end of a play, which I'm assuming is the case, it would be possible to lose TPs by beating your old combo based score with a lower raw score, or to miss out on TPs because you may qualify but not beat your old combo based high score.

[Velocity]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

With the caveat that I don't know how the backend for this works or if Velocity is changing something major, isn't part of the problem that even though you can calculate the raw score only your best combo based score is saved? So if TPs work by looking at your current (combo based) high score rather than being unlocked permanently whenever you meet the requirements at the end of a play, which I'm assuming is the case, it would be possible to lose TPs by beating your old combo based score with a lower raw score, or to miss out on TPs because you may qualify but not beat your old combo based high score.

That's one of the problems this setup currently has, I'm looking into ways to store both the best combo and raw based scoring, but it's not looking easy without modification to long standing code.

[jimerax]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

gj with levelstats_raw.php.

and yeah both best total score and best raw score need to be recorded.

[Oni-Paranoia]

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Rank User Score P G A M B C
1 DossarLX ODI 122,445 2445 8 0 0 1 2453
2 TC_Halogen 119,925 2360 82 4 7 15 2420
3 One Winged Angel 116,630 2267 136 50 0 74 2453
4 jimerax 113,710 2179 204 69 1 135 2448
5 gnr61 110,515 2114 232 45 62 118 477

lol


For those who can't read the mess. The red number is the combo for the 5th best score.

+1 raw score.