Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

[bballa48]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Why is my top 10 score on WWE worth the same number of tier points as a AAA on 300 or Hajnal?

There seem to be a lot of examples like this. Makes no sense.

[EzExZeRo7497]

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Also, Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion isn't on this list, I remember doing TP requirements for that one -- if it's not going to be on this list, Death Piano should be taken off too.

Yeah, I agree with this.

[i love you]

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This is cool but I really wish we'd keep track of highest raw score so we don't have problems with unrecorded scores and mash FCs. So yeah, very nice, but I don't consider it 100% done yet

Highly agree with this especially the bold. Regardless, i am still happy that it is at least view-able now.

Why is my top 10 score on WWE worth the same number of tier points as a AAA on 300 or Hajnal?

There seem to be a lot of examples like this. Makes no sense.

At least now I cannot be blamed for this seeing that the community helped with this and came to an agreement as well lololol

I even said a bunch of times for people to look over it in case something is off :P

And i also agree with Dossar (:

[qqwref]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Why is my top 10 score on WWE worth the same number of tier points as a AAA on 300 or Hajnal?

There seem to be a lot of examples like this. Makes no sense.

That's not how it works. 8/x is not supposed to be the same difficulty throughout. Instead, tier points are supposed to go from "pass" to "nearly AAA" for each song, and each tier point is supposed to be roughly equal in the amount of extra skill it requires. All 8/12 means is that you have done 8 out of the 12 steps from not passing the song to nearly AAAing it. 1/x is always barely passing and x/x is always nearly AAAing.

[emulord]

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Just so everyone is aware:

Even though this grades on raw scoring, it uses your combobased score to do this. I just got 135,280 on Holy orders raw, but not a FC and it didn't beat my mashFC score, so my Tierpoint v2 page didnt get the better raw score.

Other than that, this looks like a pretty good list and implementation.

[TheSaxRunner05]

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Can someone imput raw scores manually if we post SS's for improvement, or are we just waiting on the finished system before worrying about that?

[ReikonKeiri]

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can you put Velocity's link in the first post? I'd rather just come to this thread instead of bookmarking it.

[TheSaxRunner05]

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Let's remake the old banners/Tier System from this thread

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=64820&highlight=Tier

And then have the new system put here as well
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ier_points.php

That would be awesome.

My suggestions for tiers on the raw scale -

Tier 5 - 300-499 TP
Tier 4 - 500-749 TP
Tier 3 - 750-999 TP
Tier 2 - 1000-1199 TP
Tier 1 -1200-1399
Tier 0 - 1400

/added a 5th tier because of the expansion of the TP system to include more difficulties

[TheSaxRunner05]

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New TP song suggestions -
1. Sunless Daybreak [993] (VD list)
(5) AAA (4) 5g (3) 20g (2) 100g) (1) Pass
2. Asterisk [707] (D)
(5) AAA (4) 5g (3) 20g (2) 100g (1) Pass
3. Night Walker [754] (C List)
(5) AAA (4) 5g (3) 20g (2) 100g (1) Pass
4. Stay Crunchy [1128] (C)
(6) AAA (5) 6g (4) 15g (3) 40g (2) 100g (1) Pass
5. Glorious Morning [624] (VD)
(5) AAA (4) 5g (3) 20g (2) 80g (1) Pass
6. Impulse [1836] (VC)
(6) BF (5) 9g (4) 20g (3) 50g (2) 100g (1) Pass
7. We Will Fly [808] (C)
(5) AAA (4) 5g (3) 25g (2) 75g (1) Pass
8. FF7 Battle [982] (VC)
(6) AAA (5) 6g (4) 15g (3) 50g (2) 100g (1) Pass
9. Makiba [1547] (FMO)
(7) AAA (6) 4g (5) 9g (4) 25g (3) 75g (2) 150g (1) Pass
10. Determination [1687] (FMO)
(7) AAA (6) 5g (5) 12g (4) 30g (3) 90g (2) 150g (1) Pass
11. Colorful Course [2014] (FMO)
(7) 1g (6) 6g (5) 15g (4) 35g (3) 75g (2) 150g (1) Pass
12. Demon Beast Appearance [1578] (FMO)
(7) AAA (6) 5g (5) 12g (4) 25g (3) 70g (2) 150g (1) Pass
13. Beware the Purple Water [1742] (FMO)
(8) BF (7) 8g (6) 20g (5) 40g (4) 80g (3) 150g (2) 250g (1) Pass
14. Trisection v2 [1536] (FMO)
(8) AAA (7) 6g (6) 20g (5) 50g (4) 100g (3) 150g (2) 200g (1) Pass
15. Rotary Slicers [1761] (FGO)
(9) AAA (8) 4g (7) 9g (6) 15g (5) 35g (4) 70g (3) 120g (2) 200g (1) Pass
16. Lawn Wake II [1577] (FGO)
(9) AAA (8) 4g (7) 9g (6) 20g (5) 40g (4) 80g (3) 120g (2) 200g (1) Pass
17. Pandora [953] (FGO)
(9) AAA (8) 7g (7) 12g (6) 25g (5) 60g (4) 100g (3) 200g (2) 300g (1) Pass
18. Jamais Vu [1993] (FGO)
(12) 1g (11) 4g (10) 9g (9) 20g (8) 40g (7) 75g (6) 125g (5) 200g (4) 400g (3) 600g (2) 800g (1) Pass
19. Extratone Pirates [1880] (FGO)
(12) 1g (11) 4g (10) 9g (9) 20g (8) 40g (7) 75g (6) 125g (5) 200g (4) 400g (3) 600g (2) 800g (1) Pass
20. Do I Smile? [2112] (FGO)
(13) 1g (12) 5g (11) 12g (10) 20g (9) 30g (8) 60g (7) 100g (6) 150g (5) 200g (4) 400g (3) 600g (2) 800g (1) Pass

1408 Previous TP + 151 new (Pokemon anyone?) = 1559
Tier 5 350-549
Tier 4 550-799
Tier 3 800-1099
Tier 2 1100-1299
Tier 1 1300-1524
Tier 0 1525+

Please Discuss

[HalfStep]

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Is this ever gonna replace the Tier Point bar on profiles?

[TheSaxRunner05]

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I hope so, but the system isn't done yet. It only pulls from the level ranks page, so at this point, even if you beat old raw scores, they wont give you more TP until you beat the old combo score as well.

I don't know anything about programming, but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.

[One Winged Angel]

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Hi, I'm updating this (along with Eze's help if he wants).

Re-added the songs that were mysteriously missing from the tp list from forever ago due to name changes. Might make a few alterations to existing requirements or remove some altogether (not a big fan of '3 or fewer' max reqs) but nothing too major. Old tp system can't handle double digit reqs, but that shouldn't be a big issue as I'm thinking to include songs that are rated at least 50 on this list, i.e. starting at the mid-C region.

Thinking something along the lines of:

Songs rated 50-58: max three points
59-65: max four points
66-73: max five points
74-80: max six points
81-86: max seven points
87-92: max eight points
93+: max nine points

Not set in stone yet, but those numbers are approximate boundaries for each level (feedback from you guys, please?) Obviously more lenient reqs (BF, 2 or fewer) for the max reqs of higher difficulty songs within each level, and max AAA reqs for the mid and lower.

So yeah, stuff. Maybe yay, maybe no one cares. Hopefully yay. Feel free to add suggestions. Hopefully we can establish a T0-T4/5 system again once this is fully updated.

[yo man im awesome]

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LOL I just gained like 20TP's from you fixing that, yes please keep it up!!

[popsicle_3000]

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yay

[One Winged Angel]

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Updated the AAA bonus list. Max points available from bonus is 50 now for AAA'ing every current song in-game (1535, much like 845 was the total number of songs in game during the last AAA bonus update). Bonus points begin at 500 AAAs and additional points are gained linearly every 21/22 AAAs.

Will begin adding songs to the list in the near future. Any objections to the tier boundaries I proposed earlier? Otherwise, let me know if you guys want Secret/Token/Legacy songs to be included or not.

Thinking about making a total of 1,000 points available (950 from tiers, 50 from bonus).