Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

[gnr61]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

reality is also short, and even though *I* can't do it, like 400 people have 2g or less on it. how many people have bf's on across rooftops and saddest rmx again? cuz they're worth the same amt of points :v

imo, reality is an easy X/8 with AAA for top req (it seems comparable to Lolo and probably easier than Tageri).

keeping saddest as X/8/bf seems fine to me.

across rooftops X/9/AAA makes sense i think. it's long and consistently tricky, much more on par with nomina AAA than 4g on ketsarku (i mean wat)

honki also seems to give people trouble, so maybe X/8/bf since it's long and pretty erratic. i agree it's not a 9-pointer, but bf might smooth it out (i see it as comparable to sparkle downer, which is set up nicely)

going back to ketsarku, that might be an X/8... currently, doling out 8 points for 4 or less on it seems way over-generous. only way i can think of to smooth that over though would be to drop the 9pt req and call it X/8/bf. IMO there's harder fgo's sitting at X/8, and those seem reasonable as is.


i'm defs no expert on this stuff but jus my two cents :3

[[TeRa]]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

tageri is easier than ketsarku imo, idk to move tageri up or ketsarku down
saddest is def x/9

idc though list is good enough

[i love you]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

The only two songs that stood out for me were 'Across Rooftops' and 'Saddest RMX', but more-so the latter. I would think that their requirements can be dispersed accordingly to fit X/9 points. I am a little hesitant on 'Across Rooftops', and I guess there is no reason why it cannot stay as an X/8 point requirement. Thoughts?

I can definitely see Across Rooftops having X/9 points with an AAA as max since it is long and contains a variety of patterns. Also, it is very consistent and overall more challenging then some of the other X/9 listed. Saddest RMX I am a little iffy about making a X/9 due to it's length but I will admit that it is harder then some of the X/9 listed so it is possible that I will change that as well. I will see what other people in the community have to say about that.

I'm fine with Saddest RMX staying as x/8 due to the short length. Across Rooftops is a nice bundle of difficulty and it's dispersed all throughout the chart. I can agree with a x/9 change for that one, but with the currently listed requirements, it's fine.

Alright, I will officially change across rooftops to a X/9. I think that will be a safe move since it seems like majority would like that anyway. As for Saddest RMX, it is possible that it will either stay as a X/8 with a BF or be changed to a X/9 with an AAA. I will have to look further into that.

Agreed with the bump on Saddest only because Reality is X/9 and Saddest isn't

AR's quite a bit more difficult to PA than some of the 9s listed (most notably stuff like Gunk Tar and Ketsarku), so I wouldn't mind the one-up on that one either. You might even consider giving Tageri a bump too but that one's really borderline.

Now that I think about it, reality should really be a X/8 with an AAA as max since it is short and consistent. As for Saddest RMX, I am still thinking if that should be changed to a X/9 AAA. Across Rooftops will be changed to X/9 AAA and Ketsarku will most likely be reduced to an X/8. Tageri will most likely stay the same however it does have some framer issues in some of the rolls so it is possible that the max will be changed to BF. I will have to look further into that.

reality is also short, and even though *I* can't do it, like 400 people have 2g or less on it. how many people have bf's on across rooftops and saddest rmx again? cuz they're worth the same amt of points :v

imo, reality is an easy X/8 with AAA for top req (it seems comparable to Lolo and probably easier than Tageri).

keeping saddest as X/8/bf seems fine to me.

across rooftops X/9/AAA makes sense i think. it's long and consistently tricky, much more on par with nomina AAA than 4g on ketsarku (i mean wat)

honki also seems to give people trouble, so maybe X/8/bf since it's long and pretty erratic. i agree it's not a 9-pointer, but bf might smooth it out (i see it as comparable to sparkle downer, which is set up nicely)

going back to ketsarku, that might be an X/8... currently, doling out 8 points for 4 or less on it seems way over-generous. only way i can think of to smooth that over though would be to drop the 9pt req and call it X/8/bf. IMO there's harder fgo's sitting at X/8, and those seem reasonable as is.

I think at this point, I can agree with reality and ketsarku being reduced to X/8. Across rooftops will definitely be changed to X/9. As for Saddest RMX, I think I will bump that one to a X/9 AAA since it seems like majority would prefer that more than a X/8 BF.

tageri is easier than ketsarku imo, idk to move tageri up or ketsarku down
saddest is def x/9

It will probably be best if both tageri and ketsarku were at X/8. Saddest will definitely be bumped to a X/9.

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Alright so here is what I am going to do for now:

Across Rooftops = X/9 with AAA as max
Ketsarku Mozgalom = X/8 with AAA as max <-- this is debatable
Reality = X/8 with AAA as max
Saddest RMX = X/9 with AAA as max <-- this is still debatable
Tageri = X/8 with BF as max (it contains some framer issues)


IMO this conflicts with:
Gunkienen Tarusuigin which currently has a X/9 AAA. Should probably be changed to X/8 AAA.

Tell me what you guys think about this. I really am trying to make this as reasonable as possible! (:

EDIT: Just so we are clear, I will also balance up the overall requirements due to these changes if you guys agree with this!

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Yeah ily, that looks much better and is much more consistent with the other reqs. Only thing I'd really suggest at this point is perhaps making Ketsarku a BF for max 8/8. Much trickier than the other X/8's and requires proficiency in a wide variety of skillsets to score well on (rolls, burst technique, speed [ending translates to 270bpm 16ths iirc])

[gnr61]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

agree with the fixes, including Gunk shifting to X/8/AAA. that'll add some nice variance in skillsets to the 8 pointers as well. agree with OWA that ketsarku should probably be X/8/bf, though. great work, sir : D

[stavie33]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Gunkien shifts to an 8 and the list looks dandy. Very good job guys!

[i love you]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

UPDATED! This will be added to the 3rd page as well. Tell me if it is safe to finalize this! (:

1. A Quick Death [1651 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 20 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. Across Rooftops [2254 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. Blue Rose [3622 Combo] [VERY LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 10 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 75 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern [1423 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 4 or fewer
(8) - 9 or fewer
(7) - 15 or fewer
(6) - 30 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. DeVouR [1478 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 4 or fewer
(8) - 9 or fewer
(7) - 20 or fewer
(6) - 40 or fewer
(5) - 70 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Eclipse (Solar) [1445 Combo]
(11) - 1 or fewer
(10) - 3 or fewer
(9) - 9 or fewer
(8) - 20 or fewer
(7) - 50 or fewer
(6) - 80 or fewer
(5) - 120 or fewer
(4) - 200 or fewer
(3) - 300 or fewer
(2) - 500 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. Frictional Nevada [1325 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Grand Galop Chromatique [2361 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. Grist [1519 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 25 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Gunkienen Tarusuigin [1489 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Hardkore Atomic [1034 Combo]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Holy Orders [2758 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. honki sentai majirenjaa -MAJI eurobeat version- [1830 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 6 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. I Hate The 80s [1008 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2 [1652 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 15 or fewer
(7) - 40 or fewer
(6) - 70 or fewer
(5) - 100 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Ketsarku Mozgalom [1635 Combo]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 85 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Kidney Stone [1619 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. La Campanella [2888 Combo] [LONG]
(11) - 1 or fewer
(10) - 5 or fewer
(9) - 12 or fewer
(8) - 30 or fewer
(7) - 50 or fewer
(6) - 100 or fewer
(5) - 200 or fewer
(4) - 400 or fewer
(3) - 600 or fewer
(2) - 800 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. 11ELEVEN [1528 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Mathsma Attack [2587 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Mephisto Waltz [1842 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Necropotence [1695 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 3 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Nomina Nuda Tenemus [987 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 3 or fewer
(7) - 7 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. Rage Template [1580 Combo]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 7 or fewer
(7) - 15 or fewer
(6) - 30 or fewer
(5) - 60 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. Reality [921 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

26. Saddest RMX [919 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

27. Sparkle Downer [1360 Combo]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 8 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

28. Tageri [1945 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 85 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

29. The Adventures Of Lolo [524 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 65 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

30. Little God Channel [2814 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 6 or fewer
(7) - 10 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

31. 12 Bar Bloops [2317 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

32. Schmollbluk [1645 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 25 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 120 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

33. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ [3250 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 75 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

34. Winter Wind Etude [2407 Combo] [LONG]
(12) - 1 or fewer
(11) - 4 or fewer
(10) - 9 or fewer
(9) - 20 or fewer
(8) - 45 or fewer
(7) - 70 or fewer
(6) - 120 or fewer
(5) - 200 or fewer
(4) - 400 or fewer
(3) - 600 or fewer
(2) - 800 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

[hi19hi19]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Even the un-appeasable stavie agrees. I'd consider that a total success, wow!

Nice work.

[emulord]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

SAFE!

[WTF WRECKED]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

The FGO list has now been added to 3rd post! (:

[i love you]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Alright FFR community, the TP system is now officially complete! It's been great working with you guys! More information about implantation will be announced sometime this week! Again, thank you guys for the time and patience you gave us! I told you guys in the beginning that we would work on this as a community didn't I? I kept that promise throughout this whole project because I believe that a community is more important then anything else. Again, I thank you guys once again for the help and support throughout these 2 1/2 months! (:

[benguino]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Alright FFR community, the TP system is now officially complete! It's been great working with you guys! More information about implantation will be announced sometime this week! Again, thank you guys for the time and patience you gave us! I told you guys in the beginning that we would work on this as a community didn't I? I kept that promise throughout this whole project because I believe that a community is more important then anything else so I thank you once again for the help and support throughout these 2 1/2 months! (:

Thank you so much for listening to us and taking our suggestions. It was a wise idea to do so, rather than just releasing it and having people complain. Good work ily!

[Zekramcross]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Woot. Can't wait until this is finally implemeted later in the week.

[lolpwnlol]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Can't wait to see this working!

[Zekramcross]

Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Who's HYPED?