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  • SkRAWRk
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2011
    • 217

    #196
    Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

    Looking forward to seeing the final list. ^___^
    Ohey, a signature. Whut is this. o.o

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    • -zeroSKILL-
      Fuc Da Police
      • Jul 2008
      • 1860

      #197
      Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

      Originally posted by stavie33
      so I tried to do as many high songs as I can yet still keep it balanced, which became extremely difficult)
      I don't agree with the first part of this... The keeping balance thing? Yes. Trying to squeeze in every hard VC? No.

      I think the idea of making TP's available to the casual player is a terrific idea and breaks away from the ultra elitism that TP's had. But to go through each difficulty and select the hardest files isn't a good way to do it. Especially now that TP's are available from difficulty 7-12. This system seems to encourage a gradual progression kind of method, where a player can track their skill progression throughout their plays. However, jumping immediately from the hardest 7's giving TP, to the hardest 8's, then 9's, 10's, 11's, and finally 12's doesn't track progression smoothly. The TP's become available essentially when you've mastered each difficulty bracket, and by that time you probably already know you're that good. I prefer the flow of easier 7's to the most difficult 7's, easiest 10's to the most difficult 10's, etc. It rewards you for at the very least making attempts. But to just grant TP's to songs like Feldschlact, Bus Rides With People, Illumination of the Sky, Slaytronic, K8107, System Failure, and leave out songs like Tambourin Chinois, State of Emergency, dot death, and Wish (For FFR) seems unfair in the broad view of things. I tried my best to present an outline that didn't even include mostly challenging files for each difficulty, but rather an even curve. A gradual skill ladder for players to climb.
      All public 1-7's AAA'd.
      15 8's left to AAA
      Average Rank: 152

      Originally posted by [email protected]
      God is a ******. Go away Jesus freak and read the bible --->

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      • SkRAWRk
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2011
        • 217

        #198
        Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

        I'm sorry, but... Didn't he just make that point? That he wanted to keep it balanced and include lower level songs as well as higher ones to have a spread of sorts?

        And you disagree with that on the grounds of the same argument?

        Wat? o.o
        Ohey, a signature. Whut is this. o.o

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        • qqwref
          stepmania archaeologist
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 4092

          #199
          Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

          Originally posted by stavie33
          I felt it was wrong to give tier points for accomplishments on an easier song but not a harder one
          Giving out tier points for easier songs without including all the harder ones is the entire point of this system - how else would we include only some of the songs in each difficulty from 7-10? With your approach we'd have to include every single 8+ to put any 7s into the list.

          Basically, we're going to try to include a reasonable progression of charts all the way from 7s through FMOs, at which point almost all charts will be included. The difficulty barriers aren't really important here - we just wanted to have a roughly even amount in each difficulty to make sure that we keep a good progression of difficulties.
          Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
          Best SDG: PANTS (86)
          Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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          • PrawnSkunk
            Administrator
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Administrator
            • Dec 2007
            • 3907

            #200
            Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

            I am so excited - this will defiantly help motivate my depressingly self-centered e-penis.
            Last edited by PrawnSkunk; 09-30-2011, 04:56 PM.

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            • hi19hi19
              lol happy
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2005
              • 12194

              #201
              Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

              TY guys for all the love for World of Dreams and EternuS <3
              Glad to know people really did find World of Dreams a good jump practice file, that was its intent!


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              • qqwref
                stepmania archaeologist
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 4092

                #202
                Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                Gotta say I don't remember World of Dreams, but EternuS was awesome, especially the fact that you stepped the whole thing
                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                • Emithith
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1784

                  #203
                  Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                  kinda excited to see the new tier outline. This will actually motivate me to work on the 7-9 songs too. lol

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                  • i love you
                    Live a wonderful life~
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 7313

                    #204
                    Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                    Alright guys, the final list should be posted on the 3rd post no later then Sunday
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                    The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~
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                    • remedy1502
                      remederpin
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 4884

                      #205
                      Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                      Oh my god yay c:
                      I'm extremely excited to see this. It'll make it so much easier to find things to improve rather than just looking at my levelranks. I can have more goals now :>

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                      • -zeroSKILL-
                        Fuc Da Police
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1860

                        #206
                        Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                        Originally posted by remedy1502
                        Oh my god yay c:
                        I'm extremely excited to see this. It'll make it so much easier to find things to improve rather than just looking at my levelranks. I can have more goals now :>
                        This.

                        I was extremely sad to see virtually all VC's gone from the TP list... It basically dampened my ambition to improve at all.

                        I will be extremely happy to see 9's and 10's introduced into the TP system. I intentionally tried to choose 9's and 10's I hadn't AAA'd just to give me motivation to improve my scores on some files, while still trying to provide a steady increase in difficulty from one difficulty to the next.
                        All public 1-7's AAA'd.
                        15 8's left to AAA
                        Average Rank: 152

                        Originally posted by [email protected]
                        God is a ******. Go away Jesus freak and read the bible --->

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                        • remedy1502
                          remederpin
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 4884

                          #207
                          Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                          Originally posted by i love you
                          Alright guys, the final list should be posted on the 3rd post no later then Sunday
                          So whats the status on this?

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                          • -zeroSKILL-
                            Fuc Da Police
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1860

                            #208
                            Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                            I just came in here to ask the same thing. But... the 3rd is Monday, soooo.... idk. Maybe he meant to say Monday and not Sunday ?_?
                            All public 1-7's AAA'd.
                            15 8's left to AAA
                            Average Rank: 152

                            Originally posted by [email protected]
                            God is a ******. Go away Jesus freak and read the bible --->

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                            • hXcalltheway
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 550

                              #209
                              Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                              Originally posted by -zeroSKILL-
                              I just came in here to ask the same thing. But... the 3rd is Monday, soooo.... idk. Maybe he meant to say Monday and not Sunday ?_?
                              Pretty sure he meant to have outlines in by today.

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                              • justin_ator
                                🥓<strong><span style="col
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7648

                                #210
                                Re: Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

                                3rd post bro, not third of the month

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